Re: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
Andrew Savory wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ok, rethinking it - I think you're right. So what about swapping the second and third item: - MIME type declared on the reader instance - MIME type declared for the reader component - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek into the file and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. +1 for the swapped order, the user should *always* have control over something that might happen automagically. Tony Works for me! Andrew.
RE: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Ok, rethinking it - I think you're right. So what about swapping the second > and third item: > > > - MIME type declared on the reader instance > > - MIME type declared for the reader component > > - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek > > into the file > > and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. > > - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. Works for me! Andrew. -- Andrew SavoryEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Managing Director Tel: +44 (0)870 741 6658 Luminas Internet Applications Fax: +44 (0)700 598 1135 Orixo alliance: http://www.orixo.com/ Web:www.luminas.co.uk
RE: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
Andrew Savory wrote: > > Sorry, missed the start of this thread. > :) > On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > ...The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order to > > determine the mime type): > > > > - MIME type declared on the reader instance > > - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek > > into the file > > and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. > > - MIME type declared for the reader component > > - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. > > > > Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will > > overide > > the information with this. > > ... > > I'm not sure that the second and third items are in the right order. > > Consider, for example, sending out xhtml docs ... (no, I don't know why > you'd use a reader, but bear with me) > > The reader component might declare that it should be sent out as > text/html. But given the doc is xml, the reader would peak in to the file > and see that it is xml, and set the type as application/xml. > > This would mean I'd have to explicitly declare a mime type in every reader > instance, rather than once for the component. > > Thoughts? > Ok, rethinking it - I think you're right. So what about swapping the second and third item: > > - MIME type declared on the reader instance > > - MIME type declared for the reader component > > - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek > > into the file > > and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. > > - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. Carsten
RE: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
Sorry, missed the start of this thread. On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > ...The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order to > determine the mime type): > > - MIME type declared on the reader instance > - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek > into the file > and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. > - MIME type declared for the reader component > - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. > > Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will > overide > the information with this. > ... I'm not sure that the second and third items are in the right order. Consider, for example, sending out xhtml docs ... (no, I don't know why you'd use a reader, but bear with me) The reader component might declare that it should be sent out as text/html. But given the doc is xml, the reader would peak in to the file and see that it is xml, and set the type as application/xml. This would mean I'd have to explicitly declare a mime type in every reader instance, rather than once for the component. Thoughts? Andrew. -- Andrew SavoryEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Managing Director Tel: +44 (0)870 741 6658 Luminas Internet Applications Fax: +44 (0)700 598 1135 Orixo alliance: http://www.orixo.com/ Web:www.luminas.co.uk
RE: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm +0.9 on this, cannot help ATM but the logic suggested > below sounds > good to me. This sounds good to mee too. Reinhard > > -Bertrand > > > >> On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > >>> ...The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order to > >>> determine the mime type): > >>> > >>> - MIME type declared on the reader instance > >>> - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek > >> into the file > >>> and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. > >>> - MIME type declared for the reader component > >>> - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. > >>> > >>> Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will > >>> overide > >>> the information with this. > > ...
Re: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I'm +0 on this, so we can: a) start a vote or b) close the bug with "wontfix" Carsten a) +0.5 Joerg -Original Message- From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No opinions on this? Does this mean nobody needs this feature? IMO it's not that important, but it can at least shorten the sitemap component declaration a bit. So I would like to have it. Joerg On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hi, during our bug hunting session we came across bug 10277 that contains a discussion about the mime type handling of a reader. http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10277 The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order to determine the mime type): - MIME type declared on the reader instance - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek into the file and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. - MIME type declared for the reader component - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will overide the information with this. For more info you can have a look at bugzilla. Now, we can either agree on the above, come to a different solution or leave it as is. Either way, I want to close this bug :) Carsten -- System Development VIRBUS AG Fon +49(0)341-979-7419 Fax +49(0)341-979-7409 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.virbus.de
Re: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
I'm +0.9 on this, cannot help ATM but the logic suggested below sounds good to me. -Bertrand On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ...The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order to determine the mime type): - MIME type declared on the reader instance - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek into the file and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. - MIME type declared for the reader component - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will overide the information with this. ...
RE: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
I'm +0 on this, so we can: a) start a vote or b) close the bug with "wontfix" Carsten > -Original Message- > From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader > > > No opinions on this? Does this mean nobody needs this feature? IMO it's > not that important, but it can at least shorten the sitemap component > declaration a bit. So I would like to have it. > > Joerg > > On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > during our bug hunting session we came across bug 10277 > > that contains a discussion about the mime type handling > > of a reader. > > > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10277 > > > > The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order > > to determine the mime type): > > > > - MIME type declared on the reader instance > > - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek > into the file > > and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. > > - MIME type declared for the reader component > > - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. > > > > Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will overide > > the information with this. > > > > For more info you can have a look at bugzilla. > > > > Now, we can either agree on the above, come to a different solution > > or leave it as is. Either way, I want to close this bug :) > > > > > > Carsten >
Re: [RT] Changing the mime type setting of a reader
No opinions on this? Does this mean nobody needs this feature? IMO it's not that important, but it can at least shorten the sitemap component declaration a bit. So I would like to have it. Joerg On 10.10.2003 12:11, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hi, during our bug hunting session we came across bug 10277 that contains a discussion about the mime type handling of a reader. http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10277 The suggestion is to change the behaviour to (or the order to determine the mime type): - MIME type declared on the reader instance - Ask the Reader for a MIME type. A *.doc reader could peek into the file and return either text/plain or application/vnd.msword. - MIME type declared for the reader component - MIME type declared in WEB-INF/web.xml or by the server. Because, *if* I set a mime type for the reader instance I will overide the information with this. For more info you can have a look at bugzilla. Now, we can either agree on the above, come to a different solution or leave it as is. Either way, I want to close this bug :) Carsten
