Re: Content tracks at ApacheCon Austin

2014-11-22 Thread jan i 
On 22 November 2014 at 18:16, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> The CFP for ApacheCon Austin closes on February 1st, so we have just over
> 2 months to get our content solicited for that event. I need your help.
>
> At ApacheCon EU this week, I spoke with a number of project PMCs. I
> requested that they attempt to put together what they feel would be a good
> track - ie., a list of topics that they feel would need to be covered in
> order for their project to be properly represented - and then attempt to
> solicit *those* talks from their user/dev community.
>
> This has a few benefits over the standard "what do you want to talk
> about?" CFP process. One, you end up with the talks that represent a full
> coverage of a project, without big holes. And it's a great way to encourage
> new speakers who are having trouble deciding what they might speak about.
>
> I believe I'll be getting tracks from:
>
> * Cloudstack
> * OFBiz
> * OpenOffice
> * Mesos
> * httpd
>
> I would ask that you make this request of your project PMC, those of you
> who have a project (or more) that you are active on. Or find the person who
> should own this.
>
> In the coming days, I'd like to build a list of people that are interested
> in making ApacheCon Austin happen, and in particular helping get PMCs more
> involved in the process. If that's you, please speak up.
>
Please add me to the list, as we discussed in Budapest, I can/will be
helping with the logistic. I expect the new "talk/track/schedule" form to
be available for testing around christmas.


>
> Question: Do you think we need a dedicated mailing list for this, or
> should we continue to do this on dev@community? (I'm open to either way,
> but if folks feel strongly one way or the other, we should do that.)
>
I think we should keep generic discussions here, where people are already
subscribed and then use
pmcs@ for polite reminders
apachecon-discuss@ for "technical" discussions

I also think we should use our wiki to at least publish a timeline, and a
word or two about the talk selection/scheduling process from now and to
austin.

rgds
jan i.


>
>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>

Re: Content tracks at ApacheCon Austin

2014-11-22 Thread Leif Hedstrom 

> On Nov 22, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> 
> The CFP for ApacheCon Austin closes on February 1st, so we have just over 2 
> months to get our content solicited for that event. I need your help.
> 
> At ApacheCon EU this week, I spoke with a number of project PMCs. I requested 
> that they attempt to put together what they feel would be a good track - ie., 
> a list of topics that they feel would need to be covered in order for their 
> project to be properly represented - and then attempt to solicit *those* 
> talks from their user/dev community.
> 
> This has a few benefits over the standard "what do you want to talk about?" 
> CFP process. One, you end up with the talks that represent a full coverage of 
> a project, without big holes. And it's a great way to encourage new speakers 
> who are having trouble deciding what they might speak about.
> 
> I believe I'll be getting tracks from:
> 
> * Cloudstack
> * OFBiz
> * OpenOffice
> * Mesos
> * httpd
> 
> I would ask that you make this request of your project PMC, those of you who 
> have a project (or more) that you are active on. Or find the person who 
> should own this.

In Denver 2014, Apache Traffic Server had its own track. As much as I’d like to 
say it was successful, I really don’t think it was. The audience was pretty 
much the same people that attended the ATS Summit at the end of the week :). 
So, for 2015, I’d personally prefer ATS does not get its own track, but is 
hopefully allowed at least 2-3 slots in some other “Web server / ops” related 
track.

I know of a couple of very, very interesting presentations that would fit this 
more general audience. One in particular from Comcast is incredible, and will 
blow peoples mind. But alas, if it’s narrowed into being an ATS only track, I 
think it’ll be lost to the broader audience. What I’m hoping from the ATS 
community perspective for ACNA 15 is something like

* A few presentations that would fit into a non-ATS specific track 
(Web-ops, A patchy web etc.)
* At our ’15 Summit, which we hope will be adjacent to ACNA, we do ATS 
specific presentations


Fwiw, we tried a different format for our last fall Summit in California a few 
months ago, and it was well received. It was a mix of developer, operations, 
and dev ops topics and presentations, as well as design discussions (we split 
it into two different types of tracks).

What’s my point of all this rambling? Well, what I’m trying to say is that 
having entirely project specific tracks might work well for some large 
projects, but probably not all. Certainly not for the ATS project.

> 
> 
> Question: Do you think we need a dedicated mailing list for this, or should 
> we continue to do this on dev@community? (I'm open to either way, but if 
> folks feel strongly one way or the other, we should do that.)

I’d prefer keeping it on dev@community, but no strong preference.

Cheers,

— Leif

> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Content tracks at ApacheCon Austin

2014-11-22 Thread Rich Bowen 
The CFP for ApacheCon Austin closes on February 1st, so we have just 
over 2 months to get our content solicited for that event. I need your help.


At ApacheCon EU this week, I spoke with a number of project PMCs. I 
requested that they attempt to put together what they feel would be a 
good track - ie., a list of topics that they feel would need to be 
covered in order for their project to be properly represented - and then 
attempt to solicit *those* talks from their user/dev community.


This has a few benefits over the standard "what do you want to talk 
about?" CFP process. One, you end up with the talks that represent a 
full coverage of a project, without big holes. And it's a great way to 
encourage new speakers who are having trouble deciding what they might 
speak about.


I believe I'll be getting tracks from:

* Cloudstack
* OFBiz
* OpenOffice
* Mesos
* httpd

I would ask that you make this request of your project PMC, those of you 
who have a project (or more) that you are active on. Or find the person 
who should own this.


In the coming days, I'd like to build a list of people that are 
interested in making ApacheCon Austin happen, and in particular helping 
get PMCs more involved in the process. If that's you, please speak up.


Question: Do you think we need a dedicated mailing list for this, or 
should we continue to do this on dev@community? (I'm open to either way, 
but if folks feel strongly one way or the other, we should do that.)




--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: ApacheCon US 2015 and change of CFP

2014-11-22 Thread jan i 
HI Pierre.

On 22 November 2014 09:36, Pierre Smits  wrote:

> Reposting in community development. I guess I took a wrong turn earlier.
>
you did not take a wrong turn earlier, I was in transit, now I safely back
home.


>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Pierre Smits 
> Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM
> Subject: ApacheCon US 2015 and change of CFP
> To: "apachecon-disc...@apache.org" 
>
>
> Jan, All,
>
> First of all, thanks to all (contributors, speakers, organisers and
> supporting parties) who participated in making the ApacheCon EU 2014 a
> success.
>
> It is one of the best ways to get the word out on what the contributors of
> both the Apache projects and the Apache Software Foundation are doing,
> achieving and how they collaborate. Thank you, Bertrand, for the brilliant
> slide of the Swiss Army Knife, showing what the combined result of each
> Apache project is.
> It is also a great way to attract new users and contributors. Thank you,
> Jan and Noah, for the equally brilliant slide regarding the soliciting for
> new contributors by the CouchDb project. A strong message never needs a
> complicated slide!
>
> I have started out to bring the ApacheCon US 2015 event to attention of the
> Apache OFBiz community in order promote it and investigate the interest for
> presenting talks.
>
super.

>
> Now, Jan has told me yesterday (Nov 19,2014) that the way we are going to
> review and accept talks might change for upcoming ApacheCon US 2015 event.
> Is there perhaps a wiki page (or something of the kind) that explains how
> this new procedure will work?
>
It is my hope to get the wiki page adapted with a proposed time schedule
and some other things. We just all need to catch with mail etc after
budapest before getting to that.

what we should not do is to repeat ACEU and have 1 spreadsheet where we
copy/move all the talks constantly, that was very time consuming and error
prone, instead it will be done with google forms.

rgds
jan i.




>
> Best regards,
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM *
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>

Fwd: ApacheCon US 2015 and change of CFP

2014-11-22 Thread Pierre Smits 
Reposting in community development. I guess I took a wrong turn earlier.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Pierre Smits 
Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM
Subject: ApacheCon US 2015 and change of CFP
To: "apachecon-disc...@apache.org" 


Jan, All,

First of all, thanks to all (contributors, speakers, organisers and
supporting parties) who participated in making the ApacheCon EU 2014 a
success.

It is one of the best ways to get the word out on what the contributors of
both the Apache projects and the Apache Software Foundation are doing,
achieving and how they collaborate. Thank you, Bertrand, for the brilliant
slide of the Swiss Army Knife, showing what the combined result of each
Apache project is.
It is also a great way to attract new users and contributors. Thank you,
Jan and Noah, for the equally brilliant slide regarding the soliciting for
new contributors by the CouchDb project. A strong message never needs a
complicated slide!

I have started out to bring the ApacheCon US 2015 event to attention of the
Apache OFBiz community in order promote it and investigate the interest for
presenting talks.

Now, Jan has told me yesterday (Nov 19,2014) that the way we are going to
review and accept talks might change for upcoming ApacheCon US 2015 event.
Is there perhaps a wiki page (or something of the kind) that explains how
this new procedure will work?

Best regards,
Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM *
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com