Re: Office Calc crash

2015-07-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Elaine,
Unfortunately you are turning to the wrong mailing list. Apache is a large
community of ~300 projects, of which Apache Open Office is a relatively
small part. This mailing list discusses issues that are common across all
projects, and not specific to any particular piece of software.

I think you should contact, us...@openoffice.apache.org, which might
require you to so called subscribe first to be guaranteed to reach it.
See
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public
for details on that.

Good Luck
Niclas

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Elaine Berger elainegber...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello,

 I was updating a list of companies that I have built up for a month and
 after updating my latest entry, the spreadsheet just closed on me. When
 reopening it, lots of entries were gone. That is a whole day work. I have
 used this list for follow up of out coming mail. In all, 60 companies are
 gone along with their addresses, phone numbers and contact person.

 I was not able to retrieve a previous version. It is saved on a USB key who
 was not saving previous copies (Now it is!)

 Is there somehow a way to retrieve those data?

 And by the way, I have experienced lots of software crashes with the Calc
 program.

 Thanks for your help!

 Elaine




-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java


Re: FOSDEM

2015-07-15 Thread zinhtut aung
On 14 Jul 2015 02:09, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote:

 I've spoken to the FOSDEM team, and the next step is playing the waiting
game.
 They will announce real soon the where/how/when of getting a booth, and
when that happens, we'll request just that.
 So, stay tuned!

 With regards,
 Daniel.


 On 2015-07-13 19:46, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:

 I'd like to volunteer! Next steps?

 Thanks,
 Roman.

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:

 FOSDEM dates have been announced. This is a reminder that several
months ago
 we talked about the notion of having an ASF presence at FOSDEM (as
opposed
 to just an AOO presence) and people were generally in favor of the idea.

 I will be there, but will already be working two other tables in the
 community space, and can't head this up. Several people suggested that
they
 might have the bandwidth to take a lead on this. It's probably time to
start
 thinking logistics, as well as connecting with the Open Office people
who
 have already been doing this for years.

 --
 Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
 http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon




Re: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?

2015-07-15 Thread Ajoy Bhatia
Just read this page: https://projects.apache.org/about.html

I'll create a COMDEV ticket and try to fix it myself. This would be my
first contribution to the Apache community.  :-)

- Ajoy


On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Ajoy Bhatia ajoy.bha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 On https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category, the only 2
 occurrences of hadoop are the link to the Apache Hadoop
 https://projects.apache.org/project.html?hadoop project page in the
 *database* https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#database
 category, and as the *hadoop*
 https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#hadoop category
 itself.

 I think that Apache Hadoop should also be listed in the *big-data*
 https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#big-data category,
 as well as in the eponymous *hadoop*
 https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#hadoop category.
 Don't you agree?

 Thanks...
 - Ajoy



 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org
 wrote:

 Fixed in r1691109, thanks for spotting this.

 With regards,
 Daniel.


 On 2015-07-15 01:21, Ted Dunning wrote:

 The label on the second pie graph is broken.  It refers to language (cut
 and paste from the first caption, I think).



 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org wrote:

  So ...we've had a tweet from Roman last month, and now JimJag (bcc'd)
 has
 done so as well

 https://twitter.com/jimjag/status/620940463558782976


 Are we officially live yet?

 If not, please let me know when I can promote.

 Cheers,
 Sally

 
 From: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
 To: jan i j...@apache.org; dev@community.apache.org 
 dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: David Crossley cross...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 
 Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015, 6:53
 Subject: Re: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
 time?



 Aha!

 OK --that's exactly it. I didn't realize that it was going to replace
 the
 old link.

 So yes, you are correct, Jan, we don't want to do that.

 As such, I'll be standing by to hear when you (collectively) are ready.

 Thanks again,
   Sally


 [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors,
 and
 brevity]



 - Reply message -
 From: jan i j...@apache.org
 To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: David Crossley cross...@apache.org, Sally Khudairi 
 s...@apache.org
 Subject: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
 Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 06:39





 On 20 June 2015 at 12:34, Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
 .invalid
 wrote:

 Thanks, David!

 I noticed that Roman tweeted the link yesterday, so I guess the cat is

 out of the bag, as the saying goes.

 As such, barring any objections, I'll start spreading the word.

  Do we really want to do marketing on the temporary URL ?


 In my opinion, we should do some renaming so the current one is called
 -old and the new one replaces the current one.


 rgds

 jan i.


  Are there plans in place to link this from the apache.org homepage?

 Thanks again,
 Sally


 [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors,
 and

 brevity]

 - Reply message -

 From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 To: dev@community.apache.org, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 Subject: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
 Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 03:03

 Previous discussion here was about how to maintain the
 actual project data.
 Also various items listed here:
 https://projects-new.apache.org/about.html

 ~David

 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:55:52PM +, Sally Khudairi wrote:

 Hello Uli and the Apache ComDev team --I hope this message finds you

 well.

 Per below, I'm interested in promoting the new Projects page.
 Can you please let me know if/when we're ready to do so?
 Thanks so much,
 Sally

  - Forwarded Message -
From: David Nalley da...@gnsa.us
   To: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org; ASF Infrastructure 

 infrastruct...@apache.org

   Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:50 AM
   Subject: Re: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
 time?

 Hi Sally:

 projects-new.apache.org is a ComDev managed resource, not an
 infrastructure managed resource. I think the PMC has had a discussion
 or two about when to migrate projects-new to projects.a.o

 --David



 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Sally Khudairi
 sallykhuda...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello Daniel and David --I hope you are both well.


 I was wondering if the new Projects page at

 https://projects-new.apache.org/

 was ready to be publicly deployed/announced/promoted.

 There's so much great information there and it's an incredible

 resource (I use it every week for the News Round-ups and we relied on
 it
 for the Annual Report), if there's no reason why it should still be in
 stealth mode, I'd like to shout out about it from the 

Re: FOSDEM

2015-07-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 15/07/2015 jan i wrote:

On 14 July 2015 at 09:06, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 13/07/2015 jan i wrote:

who takes lead on keeping an eye on the FOSDEM team?

I usually monitor that, and I can notify this list too this year (even
though now is way too early for me to have any ideas about my possible
commitment to an OpenOffice and/or and Apache presence).


thanks a lot for volunteering to help keep a finger on the pulse.
It might be that you do not have any idea about the AOO presence, but it
seems I am in a more lucky position


Well, it seems I didn't write it in a clear way. My quote above should 
mean something like I have no idea if I will be at FOSDEM, not I have 
no idea if OpenOffice/Apache will be at FOSDEM. I doubt that could be 
misunderstood, but with a lot of mails misunderstandings just happen and 
are not a big issue.



For reference: last year the call was mid-September with a deadline of
mid-November and the conference was in late January like this year.

The dates I have been told are saturday 30 january 2016 to sunday 31
january 2016.


These are the official dates, sure. I wanted to say (and here I admit I 
wrote it in a confusing way!): FOSDEM 2016 will be more or less in the 
same period as FOSDEM 2015. For FOSDEM 2015 calls were sent out 
mid-September 2014 with a deadline in mid-November 2014. It is 
reasonable to expect a similar timeline this year.



- AOO traditionally has a double table on the first floor, I would would
like (as ASF and AOO) to get 4 tables in the ground floor.


It would be great to have both, not at the expense of visibility though. 
I would suggest to wait for the call and read it before exploring 
possibilities. I'm much in favor of an Apache presence. I don't know if 
one can ask for a specific floor... but again, reading the call can 
probably help a lot!



- if we have enough projects, we can try and make a Apache dev.room (AOO
might prefer to be in open editors room). Is it ok if I write to all PMCS
asking for interest ?


I tend to think like Rich on this: a virtual track would be very smart 
(i.e., we --oops, I am already assuming I will be at FOSDEM!-- have a 
poster at the booth where we highlight all Apache-related talks), but 
these talks happen in different devrooms, since the devrooms are not 
arranged by Foundation but by topic.



- Which message to do we want to bring across ? just that we exist or more ?


More!


- Is the booth a place for people to join Apache, or just a we exist, go
and look us up ?


It is a developer conference. I would consider it a success if 
developers who visit the booth consider putting their reasonably 
serious projects in the Incubator and have a good understanding of the 
advantages this brings.



Please if somebody feel I bully by taking lead, please tell me


Come on... You are welcome to do so! Simply, I can't take commitments 
since at this moment late January 2016 is off the radar for me (to be 
clear, I want to say: it's too early for me to know whether I will be in 
Brussels at FOSDEM in late January 2016).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?

2015-07-15 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
no need for COMDEV Jira issue: it's Hadoop DOAP that requires to be improved, 
that is under Hadoop project responsibility in Hadoop svn:
http://hadoop.apache.org/doap.rdf

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 15 juillet 2015 13:24:55 Ajoy Bhatia a écrit :
 Just read this page: https://projects.apache.org/about.html
 
 I'll create a COMDEV ticket and try to fix it myself. This would be my
 first contribution to the Apache community.  :-)
 
 - Ajoy
 
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Ajoy Bhatia ajoy.bha...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  On https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category, the only 2
  occurrences of hadoop are the link to the Apache Hadoop
  https://projects.apache.org/project.html?hadoop project page in the
  *database* https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#database
  category, and as the *hadoop*
  https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#hadoop category
  itself.
  
  I think that Apache Hadoop should also be listed in the *big-data*
  https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#big-data category,
  as well as in the eponymous *hadoop*
  https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#hadoop category.
  Don't you agree?
  
  Thanks...
  - Ajoy
  
  
  
  On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org
  
  wrote:
  Fixed in r1691109, thanks for spotting this.
  
  With regards,
  Daniel.
  
  On 2015-07-15 01:21, Ted Dunning wrote:
  The label on the second pie graph is broken.  It refers to language (cut
  and paste from the first caption, I think).
  
  On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org wrote:
   So ...we've had a tweet from Roman last month, and now JimJag (bcc'd)
   
  has
  done so as well
  
  https://twitter.com/jimjag/status/620940463558782976
  
  
  Are we officially live yet?
  
  If not, please let me know when I can promote.
  
  Cheers,
  Sally
  
  
  From: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
  To: jan i j...@apache.org; dev@community.apache.org 
  dev@community.apache.org
  Cc: David Crossley cross...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
  
  Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015, 6:53
  Subject: Re: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
  time?
  
  
  
  Aha!
  
  OK --that's exactly it. I didn't realize that it was going to replace
  the
  old link.
  
  So yes, you are correct, Jan, we don't want to do that.
  
  As such, I'll be standing by to hear when you (collectively) are ready.
  
  Thanks again,
  
Sally
  
  [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors,
  and
  brevity]
  
  
  
  - Reply message -
  From: jan i j...@apache.org
  To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
  Cc: David Crossley cross...@apache.org, Sally Khudairi 
  s...@apache.org
  Subject: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
  Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 06:39
  
  
  
  
  
  On 20 June 2015 at 12:34, Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
  .invalid
  wrote:
  
  Thanks, David!
  
  I noticed that Roman tweeted the link yesterday, so I guess the cat is
  
  out of the bag, as the saying goes.
  
  As such, barring any objections, I'll start spreading the word.
  
   Do we really want to do marketing on the temporary URL ?
  
  In my opinion, we should do some renaming so the current one is called
  -old and the new one replaces the current one.
  
  
  rgds
  
  jan i.
  
   Are there plans in place to link this from the apache.org homepage?
   
  Thanks again,
  Sally
  
  
  [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors,
  and
  
  brevity]
  
  - Reply message -
  
  From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
  To: dev@community.apache.org, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
  Subject: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
  Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 03:03
  
  Previous discussion here was about how to maintain the
  actual project data.
  Also various items listed here:
  https://projects-new.apache.org/about.html
  
  ~David
  
  On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:55:52PM +, Sally Khudairi wrote:
  Hello Uli and the Apache ComDev team --I hope this message finds you
  
  well.
  
  Per below, I'm interested in promoting the new Projects page.
  
  Can you please let me know if/when we're ready to do so?
  Thanks so much,
  Sally
  
   - Forwarded Message -
 
 From: David Nalley da...@gnsa.us

To: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
  
  Cc: Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org; ASF Infrastructure 
  
  infrastruct...@apache.org
  
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
  
  time?
  
  Hi Sally:
  
  projects-new.apache.org is a ComDev managed resource, not an
  infrastructure managed resource. I think the PMC has had a discussion
  or two about when to migrate projects-new to projects.a.o
  
  --David
  
  
  
  On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM, 

Re: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?

2015-07-15 Thread Ajoy Bhatia
Hi all,

On https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category, the only 2
occurrences of hadoop are the link to the Apache Hadoop
https://projects.apache.org/project.html?hadoop project page in the
*database* https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#database
category, and as the *hadoop*
https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#hadoop category itself.

I think that Apache Hadoop should also be listed in the *big-data*
https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#big-data category, as
well as in the eponymous *hadoop*
https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?category#hadoop category. Don't
you agree?

Thanks...
- Ajoy


On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote:

 Fixed in r1691109, thanks for spotting this.

 With regards,
 Daniel.


 On 2015-07-15 01:21, Ted Dunning wrote:

 The label on the second pie graph is broken.  It refers to language (cut
 and paste from the first caption, I think).



 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org wrote:

  So ...we've had a tweet from Roman last month, and now JimJag (bcc'd) has
 done so as well

 https://twitter.com/jimjag/status/620940463558782976


 Are we officially live yet?

 If not, please let me know when I can promote.

 Cheers,
 Sally

 
 From: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
 To: jan i j...@apache.org; dev@community.apache.org 
 dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: David Crossley cross...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015, 6:53
 Subject: Re: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
 time?



 Aha!

 OK --that's exactly it. I didn't realize that it was going to replace the
 old link.

 So yes, you are correct, Jan, we don't want to do that.

 As such, I'll be standing by to hear when you (collectively) are ready.

 Thanks again,
   Sally


 [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and
 brevity]



 - Reply message -
 From: jan i j...@apache.org
 To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: David Crossley cross...@apache.org, Sally Khudairi 
 s...@apache.org
 Subject: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
 Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 06:39





 On 20 June 2015 at 12:34, Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
 .invalid
 wrote:

 Thanks, David!

 I noticed that Roman tweeted the link yesterday, so I guess the cat is

 out of the bag, as the saying goes.

 As such, barring any objections, I'll start spreading the word.

  Do we really want to do marketing on the temporary URL ?


 In my opinion, we should do some renaming so the current one is called
 -old and the new one replaces the current one.


 rgds

 jan i.


  Are there plans in place to link this from the apache.org homepage?

 Thanks again,
 Sally


 [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors,
 and

 brevity]

 - Reply message -

 From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 To: dev@community.apache.org, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 Subject: Fw: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime time?
 Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 03:03

 Previous discussion here was about how to maintain the
 actual project data.
 Also various items listed here:
 https://projects-new.apache.org/about.html

 ~David

 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:55:52PM +, Sally Khudairi wrote:

 Hello Uli and the Apache ComDev team --I hope this message finds you

 well.

 Per below, I'm interested in promoting the new Projects page.
 Can you please let me know if/when we're ready to do so?
 Thanks so much,
 Sally

  - Forwarded Message -
From: David Nalley da...@gnsa.us
   To: Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org; ASF Infrastructure 

 infrastruct...@apache.org

   Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:50 AM
   Subject: Re: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime
 time?

 Hi Sally:

 projects-new.apache.org is a ComDev managed resource, not an
 infrastructure managed resource. I think the PMC has had a discussion
 or two about when to migrate projects-new to projects.a.o

 --David



 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Sally Khudairi
 sallykhuda...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello Daniel and David --I hope you are both well.


 I was wondering if the new Projects page at

 https://projects-new.apache.org/

 was ready to be publicly deployed/announced/promoted.

 There's so much great information there and it's an incredible

 resource (I use it every week for the News Round-ups and we relied on
 it
 for the Annual Report), if there's no reason why it should still be in
 stealth mode, I'd like to shout out about it from the rooftops.

 Just let me know if we're good to go and if there are any

 disclaimers/caveats we should be aware of.

 Warm thanks,
 Sally


 = = = = =
 vox +1 617 921 8656
 off2 +1 646 583 3362
 skype sallykhudairi






Re: FOSDEM

2015-07-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
This is turning into quite a long thread ;-) Shall we start a wiki
page to coordinate all the FOSDEM activities (same way
we do for ApacheCON)?

I don't seem to have enough karma to start a new page on ComDev
wiki, but I can surely contribute if somebody at least starts a page.

Any takers?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 On 15/07/2015 jan i wrote:

 On 14 July 2015 at 09:06, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 On 13/07/2015 jan i wrote:

 who takes lead on keeping an eye on the FOSDEM team?

 I usually monitor that, and I can notify this list too this year (even
 though now is way too early for me to have any ideas about my possible
 commitment to an OpenOffice and/or and Apache presence).

 thanks a lot for volunteering to help keep a finger on the pulse.
 It might be that you do not have any idea about the AOO presence, but it
 seems I am in a more lucky position


 Well, it seems I didn't write it in a clear way. My quote above should mean
 something like I have no idea if I will be at FOSDEM, not I have no idea
 if OpenOffice/Apache will be at FOSDEM. I doubt that could be
 misunderstood, but with a lot of mails misunderstandings just happen and are
 not a big issue.

 For reference: last year the call was mid-September with a deadline of
 mid-November and the conference was in late January like this year.

 The dates I have been told are saturday 30 january 2016 to sunday 31
 january 2016.


 These are the official dates, sure. I wanted to say (and here I admit I
 wrote it in a confusing way!): FOSDEM 2016 will be more or less in the same
 period as FOSDEM 2015. For FOSDEM 2015 calls were sent out mid-September
 2014 with a deadline in mid-November 2014. It is reasonable to expect a
 similar timeline this year.

 - AOO traditionally has a double table on the first floor, I would would
 like (as ASF and AOO) to get 4 tables in the ground floor.


 It would be great to have both, not at the expense of visibility though. I
 would suggest to wait for the call and read it before exploring
 possibilities. I'm much in favor of an Apache presence. I don't know if one
 can ask for a specific floor... but again, reading the call can probably
 help a lot!

 - if we have enough projects, we can try and make a Apache dev.room (AOO
 might prefer to be in open editors room). Is it ok if I write to all PMCS
 asking for interest ?


 I tend to think like Rich on this: a virtual track would be very smart
 (i.e., we --oops, I am already assuming I will be at FOSDEM!-- have a poster
 at the booth where we highlight all Apache-related talks), but these talks
 happen in different devrooms, since the devrooms are not arranged by
 Foundation but by topic.

 - Which message to do we want to bring across ? just that we exist or more
 ?


 More!

 - Is the booth a place for people to join Apache, or just a we exist, go
 and look us up ?


 It is a developer conference. I would consider it a success if developers
 who visit the booth consider putting their reasonably serious projects in
 the Incubator and have a good understanding of the advantages this brings.

 Please if somebody feel I bully by taking lead, please tell me


 Come on... You are welcome to do so! Simply, I can't take commitments since
 at this moment late January 2016 is off the radar for me (to be clear, I
 want to say: it's too early for me to know whether I will be in Brussels at
 FOSDEM in late January 2016).

 Regards,
   Andrea.


Re: FOSDEM

2015-07-15 Thread Rich Bowen



On 07/14/2015 07:46 PM, jan i wrote:



I hereby volunteer to be the pointman at FOSDEM (if somebody else wants to
do I am pleased to hand it over). So lets start discuss what we want:
- AOO traditionally has a double table on the first floor, I would would
like (as ASF and AOO) to get 4 tables in the ground floor.
- if we have enough projects, we can try and make a Apache dev.room (AOO
might prefer to be in open editors room). Is it ok if I write to all PMCS
asking for
   interest ?


I suspect that projects will be better served by participating in the 
topic-relevant dev room. Cloudstack/libcloud/whatever in the cloud/virt 
dev room, Hadoop/Spark/etc in the big data dev room, and so on.


But what I'd like to see is a virtual dev room - that is, we actively 
track what PMCs have events, and print up a schedule list that we have 
at the table. That also eliminates the enormous logistical overhead of 
running a dev room. I mean, unless you want to. I surely don't.




- The table need to be manned throughout both days, I can supply materials
(I will coordinate with melissa and sally), but we need 2-3 persons extra,
volunteers ?
- swag will be supplied from the european logistic center (me :-) ).


I'll be there, but can't promise a lot of time on booth, as I'm already 
split between two other booths. I'm sure, however, I can fit in an hour.





Now the more soft parts:
- Which message to do we want to bring across ? just that we exist or more ?
- Is the booth a place for people to join Apache, or just a we exist, go
and look us up ?


We should get Sally to help us craft a message, but here's some things 
I'd like to say:


* We're not just httpd (and not just AOO), but we have 300+ thriving 
projects.
* We're every bit as relevant as the FSF over there selling their 
stickers. (Free As In Stickers!) The FSF wants to present itself as the 
source of all free software, and more power to them, but we are also the 
source of a HUGE amount of the really important free software in use 
today, and we should trumpet this.
* We are behind half (or whatever) of the projects that are presenting 
here at this event.




- Do the projects present at FOSDEM, want to help on the booth, and maybe
have some why join us folders ?


For several years we've talked about per-project brochures. It's a major 
undertaking, but it would be awesome to aim at having, say, a top 20 at 
FOSDEM. (And this has the added benefit that projects that aren't in 
that top 20 will say, why aren't we in there, and step up to correct the 
injustice!)



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Re: FOSDEM

2015-07-15 Thread jan i
Hi

Just to keep everybody informed, I spoke with Stehmann who usually organize
and man the AOO stand at FOSCOM.

They intent to be at FOSDEM this year, and welcomes a combined stand ! This
actually means that we have to
a large degree solved the problem about manning the stand (Stehmann, myself
and a couple of volunteers).

rgds
jan I.

On 15 July 2015 at 01:46, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:



 On 14 July 2015 at 09:06, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 On 13/07/2015 jan i wrote:

 who takes lead on keeping an eye on the FOSDEM team?


 I usually monitor that, and I can notify this list too this year (even
 though now is way too early for me to have any ideas about my possible
 commitment to an OpenOffice and/or and Apache presence).

 thanks a lot for volunteering to help keep a finger on the pulse.

 It might be that you do not have any idea about the AOO presence, but it
 seems I am in a more lucky position, because I know we will have a
 presence, either the stehmanns will do their normal elegant job, or I will
 personally represent AOO at the booth.



 For reference: last year the call was mid-September with a deadline of
 mid-November and the conference was in late January like this year.

 The dates I have been told are saturday 30 january 2016 to sunday 31
 january 2016.


 I hereby volunteer to be the pointman at FOSDEM (if somebody else wants to
 do I am pleased to hand it over). So lets start discuss what we want:
 - AOO traditionally has a double table on the first floor, I would would
 like (as ASF and AOO) to get 4 tables in the ground floor.
 - if we have enough projects, we can try and make a Apache dev.room (AOO
 might prefer to be in open editors room). Is it ok if I write to all PMCS
 asking for
   interest ?
 - The table need to be manned throughout both days, I can supply materials
 (I will coordinate with melissa and sally), but we need 2-3 persons extra,
 volunteers ?
 - swag will be supplied from the european logistic center (me :-) ).

 Now the more soft parts:
 - Which message to do we want to bring across ? just that we exist or more
 ?
 - Is the booth a place for people to join Apache, or just a we exist, go
 and look us up ?
 - Do the projects present at FOSDEM, want to help on the booth, and maybe
 have some why join us folders ?

 Looking forward to hear what you think.

 Please if somebody feel I bully by taking lead, please tell me so and I
 will step down.
 rgds
 jan i.


 Regards




 ,
   Andrea.