Re: New committer work flow: request ICLA much earlier in the process

2021-07-12 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 - Once accepted here I would like the IPMC to consider similar process for 
accepting podling proposals.

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to propose that PMCs consider requesting that significant 
> contributors submit ICLAs earlier than when the PMC votes to invite a new 
> committer to the project. What constitutes a significant contribution is left 
> to the discretion of the PMCs.
> 
> There are a few reasons to request ICLAs earlier:
> 
> 1. Significant contributors should have an ICLA on file in order to clarify 
> the intellectual property rights of both contributor and the project. 
> Projects assume that voluntary contributions to the project are made with a 
> grant of intellectual property and patent rights, and having an ICLA on file 
> formalizes this understanding. 
> 
> When new projects enter the incubator, part of the acceptance process is to 
> verify that all significant contributors have either an ICLA or a software 
> grant on file. Once a project becomes a Top Level Project we should encourage 
> them to also notice significant contributors and ask for ICLAs. 
> 
> 2. Having an ICLA on file can be a reminder to PMCs to review their 
> significant contributors with an eye toward inviting them to become 
> committers.
> 
> 3. Having an ICLA on file make it trivial to create the account for a new 
> committer candidate. Instead of back-and-forth with PMC, candidate, 
> Secretary, and operations, PMCs can request an account for a new committer 
> immediately after the candidate accepts.
> 
> Regards,
> Craig
> 
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
> 
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New committer work flow: request ICLA much earlier in the process

2021-07-12 Thread Craig Russell
Hi,

I'd like to propose that PMCs consider requesting that significant contributors 
submit ICLAs earlier than when the PMC votes to invite a new committer to the 
project. What constitutes a significant contribution is left to the discretion 
of the PMCs.

There are a few reasons to request ICLAs earlier:

1. Significant contributors should have an ICLA on file in order to clarify the 
intellectual property rights of both contributor and the project. Projects 
assume that voluntary contributions to the project are made with a grant of 
intellectual property and patent rights, and having an ICLA on file formalizes 
this understanding. 

When new projects enter the incubator, part of the acceptance process is to 
verify that all significant contributors have either an ICLA or a software 
grant on file. Once a project becomes a Top Level Project we should encourage 
them to also notice significant contributors and ask for ICLAs. 

2. Having an ICLA on file can be a reminder to PMCs to review their significant 
contributors with an eye toward inviting them to become committers.

3. Having an ICLA on file make it trivial to create the account for a new 
committer candidate. Instead of back-and-forth with PMC, candidate, Secretary, 
and operations, PMCs can request an account for a new committer immediately 
after the candidate accepts.

Regards,
Craig

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org


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New committer work flow: check for ICLA already on file

2021-07-12 Thread Craig Russell
Hi,

I'd like to discuss the process for accepting new committers into projects. Our 
documentation is often used as a model for projects to use, and I believe it is 
not optimal. 

https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html

The immediate concern is that Secretary often receives duplicate ICLAs because 
the mail inviting them to become a committer tells them to submit an ICLA 
regardless of whether they have already submitted one.

So I'd like to change the recommended process so that the PMC first checks to 
see if the candidate is already either a committer or has an ICLA on file. This 
should significantly improve the process by eliminating the back and forth when 
a sufficient ICLA is already on file and Secretary tells the candidate to deal 
with the PMC to get the account. 

I have another suggestion for a process improvement that I will open a new 
thread to discuss.

Regards,
Craig

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org


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[GitHub] [comdev-site] swapnilmmane commented on pull request #41: Update newcommitter.md

2021-07-12 Thread GitBox


swapnilmmane commented on pull request #41:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/41#issuecomment-878062036


   Great, merging #62 results in an automatic merging of this PR (#41).


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[GitHub] [comdev-site] swapnilmmane merged pull request #41: Update newcommitter.md

2021-07-12 Thread GitBox


swapnilmmane merged pull request #41:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/41


   


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[GitHub] [comdev-site] swapnilmmane merged pull request #62: New Committer updates based on #41

2021-07-12 Thread GitBox


swapnilmmane merged pull request #62:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/62


   


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[GitHub] [comdev-site] swapnilmmane commented on pull request #62: New Committer updates based on #41

2021-07-12 Thread GitBox


swapnilmmane commented on pull request #62:
URL: https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/62#issuecomment-878060845


   Thank you @clr-apache! 


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