RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not create a good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee). What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what tracks will be present. So where does that leave us with respect to supporting projects that fall outside the LF defined tracks? What about the community aspects of the event? If nobody steps up we have nothing for these goals. But its not all bad news. For the near future there will be a community day, in which things like the below tracks could go. Longer term this is a step towards the end game. The end game is that there are enough paying people at ApacheCon that we can have a heavily subsidized community event alongside it. Unfortunately its a chicken and egg problem. We need paying people before we can afford to subsidize a community event. OR we need people to organize the community event. We can wait for LF to have ApacheCon attendance numbers up to 1000+ or someone can step up and organize a community event (note we tried many types of community event in the past and have yet to find a made that works). Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 7:36 AM To: apachecon-disc...@apache.orgmailto:apachecon-disc...@apache.org Cc: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever. As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back and relax? I stepped up. Again. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it here. LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the financial responsibility, while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you start asking which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference will be. It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order to get a clearer marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close cooperation with LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. rgds jan I. On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
On 20 April 2015 at 16:51, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not create a good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee). What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what tracks will be present. So where does that leave us with respect to supporting projects that fall outside the LF defined tracks? What about the community aspects of the event? If nobody steps up we have nothing for these goals. But its not all bad news. To avoid unnecessary confusion. ACEU 2015, will have place (although limited) for both community talks and projects that are outside the main definition. I see it as my responsibility, to help strike a balance, between the 2 goals. With the current attendee numbers that balance goes strongly but not solely towards LF defined tracks. For the near future there will be a community day, in which things like the below tracks could go. Longer term this is a step towards the end game. The end game is that there are enough paying people at ApacheCon that we can have a heavily subsidized community event alongside it. Unfortunately its a chicken and egg problem. We need paying people before we can afford to subsidize a community event. OR we need people to organize the community event. We can wait for LF to have ApacheCon attendance numbers up to 1000+ or someone can step up and organize a community event (note we tried many types of community event in the past and have yet to find a made that works). Making a community event for around 200 projects is not a small job, and the chances of success not too high. I recommend to wait a bit, before advertizing after such a volunteer. rgds jan I. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 7:36 AM To: apachecon-disc...@apache.orgmailto:apachecon-disc...@apache.org Cc: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
Hi. Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it here. LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the financial responsibility, while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you start asking which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference will be. It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order to get a clearer marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close cooperation with LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. rgds jan I. On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
Hi, LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. Interesting, cause I think one is already capable of submitting a talk for ACNEU 2015 via the LF site. Is this intentional, or by accident? regards, Achim
RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible for selecting it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 8:05 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever. As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back and relax? I stepped up. Again. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it here. LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the financial responsibility, while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you start asking which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference will be. It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order to get a clearer marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close cooperation with LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. rgds jan I. On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
On 20 April 2015 at 16:52, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. Interesting, cause I think one is already capable of submitting a talk for ACNEU 2015 via the LF site. Is this intentional, or by accident? It happened :-) The CFP site will be changed, maybe the URL will stay the same. The apacheCON Team, will transfer any CFP´s submitted into the new structure. rgds jan I. regards, Achim
Proposing tracks for ACEU15
Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
We is the ASF. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 8:28 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do' But that 'we' is confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board? Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification and/or the invitation from the LF. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible for selecting it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 8:05 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever. As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back and relax? I stepped up. Again. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it here. LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the financial responsibility, while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you start asking which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference will be. It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order to get a clearer marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close cooperation with LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. rgds jan I. On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
I'd like to see, and will propose: The History of the ASF: Starting from the Apache Group in 1995 to today, how did the ASF start, where is it now, and where is it going?
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do' But that 'we' is confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board? Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification and/or the invitation from the LF. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible for selecting it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 8:05 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever. As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back and relax? I stepped up. Again. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it here. LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the financial responsibility, while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you start asking which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference will be. It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order to get a clearer marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close cooperation with LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. rgds jan I. On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
Great. Thanks for clarifying. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: We is the ASF. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 8:28 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do' But that 'we' is confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board? Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification and/or the invitation from the LF. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible for selecting it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: 4/20/2015 8:05 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15 Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever. As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back and relax? I stepped up. Again. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it here. LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the financial responsibility, while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you start asking which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference will be. It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order to get a clearer marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close cooperation with LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week. rgds jan I. On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything goes). Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few examples: *Community building with the ASF* About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS Community Topics could be: - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand Delacrétaz - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings *Securing With Apache products* About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security, Authentication Authorization Topics could be: - Directory Management with Apache Directory - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress - The Security Framework of Apache CXF - Etc So you want big? We have BIG! About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes - Big Data Solutions - Scaling with Apache products - Managing a BIG community - etc Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams of interests areas? I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based