RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that 
bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not create a 
good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee).

What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what 
tracks will be present.

So where does that leave us with respect to supporting projects that fall 
outside the LF defined tracks? What about the community aspects of the event?

If nobody steps up we have nothing for these goals. But its not all bad news.

For the near future there will be a community day, in which things like the 
below tracks could go.

Longer term this is a step towards the end game. The end game is that there are 
enough paying people at ApacheCon that we can have a heavily subsidized 
community event alongside it. Unfortunately its a chicken and egg problem. We 
need paying people before we can afford to subsidize a community event. OR we 
need people to organize the community event.

We can wait for LF to have ApacheCon attendance numbers up to 1000+ or someone 
can step up and organize a community event (note we tried many types of 
community event in the past and have yet to find a made that works).

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 7:36 AM
To: apachecon-disc...@apache.orgmailto:apachecon-disc...@apache.org
Cc: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

Hi all,

In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF
quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the
CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few
examples:

*Community building with the ASF*
About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS
Community
Topics could be:

   - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
   Delacrétaz
   - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
   - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits
   - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
   - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
   - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
   - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings

*Securing With Apache products*
About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
Authentication  Authorization
Topics could be:

   - Directory Management with Apache Directory
   - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
   - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
   - Etc

So you want big? We have BIG!
About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes

   - Big Data Solutions
   - Scaling with Apache products
   - Managing a BIG community
   - etc


Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams
of interests areas?

I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.

Best regards,



Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first
to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever.

As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We
have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the
LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back
and relax?

I stepped up. Again.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi.


 Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it
 here.

 LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the
 financial responsibility,
 while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you
 start asking
 which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference
 will be.

 It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order
 to get a clearer
 marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close
 cooperation with
 LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week.

 rgds
 jan I.





 On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
  gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF
  quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the
  CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
  goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a
 few
  examples:
 
  *Community building with the ASF*
  About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building
 OS
  Community
  Topics could be:
 
 - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
 Delacrétaz
 - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
 - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits
 - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
 - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
 - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
 - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings
 
  *Securing With Apache products*
  About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
  Authentication  Authorization
  Topics could be:
 
 - Directory Management with Apache Directory
 - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
 - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
 - Etc
 
  So you want big? We have BIG!
  About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes
 
 - Big Data Solutions
 - Scaling with Apache products
 - Managing a BIG community
 - etc
 
 
  Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
  kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of
 pathway/streams
  of interests areas?
 
  I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
  interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.
 
  Best regards,
 
 
 
  Pierre Smits
 
  *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
  Services  Solutions for Cloud-
  Based Manufacturing, Professional
  Services and Retail  Trade
  http://www.orrtiz.com
 



Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread jan i
On 20 April 2015 at 16:51, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that
 bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not
 create a good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee).

 What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what
 tracks will be present.

 So where does that leave us with respect to supporting projects that fall
 outside the LF defined tracks? What about the community aspects of the
 event?

 If nobody steps up we have nothing for these goals. But its not all bad
 news.

To avoid unnecessary confusion.

ACEU 2015, will have place (although limited) for both community talks and
projects that are outside the main definition.

I see it as my responsibility, to help strike a balance, between the 2
goals. With the current attendee numbers that balance goes strongly but not
solely towards LF defined tracks.


 For the near future there will be a community day, in which things like
 the below tracks could go.

 Longer term this is a step towards the end game. The end game is that
 there are enough paying people at ApacheCon that we can have a heavily
 subsidized community event alongside it. Unfortunately its a chicken and
 egg problem. We need paying people before we can afford to subsidize a
 community event. OR we need people to organize the community event.


 We can wait for LF to have ApacheCon attendance numbers up to 1000+ or
 someone can step up and organize a community event (note we tried many
 types of community event in the past and have yet to find a made that
 works).


Making a community event for around 200 projects is not a small job, and
the chances of success not too high. I recommend to wait a bit, before
advertizing after such a volunteer.

rgds
jan I.


 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 7:36 AM
 To: apachecon-disc...@apache.orgmailto:apachecon-disc...@apache.org
 Cc: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

 Hi all,

 In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
 gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF
 quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the
 CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
 goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few
 examples:

 *Community building with the ASF*
 About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS
 Community
 Topics could be:

- The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
Delacrétaz
- How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
- A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits
- Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
- Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
- Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
- Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings

 *Securing With Apache products*
 About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
 Authentication  Authorization
 Topics could be:

- Directory Management with Apache Directory
- RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
- The Security Framework of Apache CXF
- Etc

 So you want big? We have BIG!
 About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes

- Big Data Solutions
- Scaling with Apache products
- Managing a BIG community
- etc


 Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
 kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams
 of interests areas?

 I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
 interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.

 Best regards,



 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com



Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread jan i
Hi.


Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it
here.

LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the
financial responsibility,
while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you
start asking
which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference
will be.

It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order
to get a clearer
marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close
cooperation with
LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week.

rgds
jan I.





On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
 gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF
 quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the
 CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
 goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few
 examples:

 *Community building with the ASF*
 About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS
 Community
 Topics could be:

- The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
Delacrétaz
- How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
- A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits
- Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
- Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
- Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
- Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings

 *Securing With Apache products*
 About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
 Authentication  Authorization
 Topics could be:

- Directory Management with Apache Directory
- RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
- The Security Framework of Apache CXF
- Etc

 So you want big? We have BIG!
 About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes

- Big Data Solutions
- Scaling with Apache products
- Managing a BIG community
- etc


 Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
 kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams
 of interests areas?

 I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
 interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.

 Best regards,



 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com



Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Achim Nierbeck
Hi,

LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week.


Interesting, cause I think one is already capable of submitting a talk for
ACNEU 2015 via the LF site.
Is this intentional, or by accident?

regards, Achim


RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do.

The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible 
for selecting it.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:05 AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first
to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever.

As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We
have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the
LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back
and relax?

I stepped up. Again.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi.


 Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it
 here.

 LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the
 financial responsibility,
 while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you
 start asking
 which content, because that highly influenced how popular the conference
 will be.

 It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in order
 to get a clearer
 marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close
 cooperation with
 LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week.

 rgds
 jan I.





 On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
  gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF
  quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the
  CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
  goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a
 few
  examples:
 
  *Community building with the ASF*
  About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building
 OS
  Community
  Topics could be:
 
 - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
 Delacrétaz
 - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
 - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits
 - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
 - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
 - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
 - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings
 
  *Securing With Apache products*
  About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
  Authentication  Authorization
  Topics could be:
 
 - Directory Management with Apache Directory
 - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
 - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
 - Etc
 
  So you want big? We have BIG!
  About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes
 
 - Big Data Solutions
 - Scaling with Apache products
 - Managing a BIG community
 - etc
 
 
  Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
  kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of
 pathway/streams
  of interests areas?
 
  I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
  interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.
 
  Best regards,
 
 
 
  Pierre Smits
 
  *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
  Services  Solutions for Cloud-
  Based Manufacturing, Professional
  Services and Retail  Trade
  http://www.orrtiz.com
 



Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread jan i
On 20 April 2015 at 16:52, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next week.
 
 
 Interesting, cause I think one is already capable of submitting a talk for
 ACNEU 2015 via the LF site.
 Is this intentional, or by accident?

It happened :-)

The CFP site will be changed, maybe the URL will stay the same.

The apacheCON Team, will transfer any CFP´s submitted into the new
structure.

rgds
jan I.


 regards, Achim



Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi all,

In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the ASF
quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of the
CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a few
examples:

*Community building with the ASF*
About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building OS
Community
Topics could be:

   - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
   Delacrétaz
   - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
   - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre Smits
   - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
   - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
   - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
   - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings

*Securing With Apache products*
About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
Authentication  Authorization
Topics could be:

   - Directory Management with Apache Directory
   - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
   - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
   - Etc

So you want big? We have BIG!
About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes

   - Big Data Solutions
   - Scaling with Apache products
   - Managing a BIG community
   - etc


Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of pathway/streams
of interests areas?

I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.

Best regards,



Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
We is the ASF.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:28 AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do'  But that 'we' is
confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board?

Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification
and/or the invitation from the LF.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do.

 The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not
 responsible for selecting it.

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:05 AM
 To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

 Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first
 to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever.

 As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We
 have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the
 LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back
 and relax?

 I stepped up. Again.

 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

  Hi.
 
 
  Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it
  here.
 
  LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the
  financial responsibility,
  while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you
  start asking
  which content, because that highly influenced how popular the
 conference
  will be.
 
  It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in
 order
  to get a clearer
  marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close
  cooperation with
  LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next
 week.
 
  rgds
  jan I.
 
 
 
 
 
  On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
   In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
   gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the
 ASF
   quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of
 the
   CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
   goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a
  few
   examples:
  
   *Community building with the ASF*
   About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building
  OS
   Community
   Topics could be:
  
  - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
  Delacrétaz
  - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
  - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre
 Smits
  - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
  - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
  - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
  - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings
  
   *Securing With Apache products*
   About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
   Authentication  Authorization
   Topics could be:
  
  - Directory Management with Apache Directory
  - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
  - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
  - Etc
  
   So you want big? We have BIG!
   About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes
  
  - Big Data Solutions
  - Scaling with Apache products
  - Managing a BIG community
  - etc
  
  
   Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
   kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of
  pathway/streams
   of interests areas?
  
   I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
   interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.
  
   Best regards,
  
  
  
   Pierre Smits
  
   *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
   Services  Solutions for Cloud-
   Based Manufacturing, Professional
   Services and Retail  Trade
   http://www.orrtiz.com
  
 



Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'd like to see, and will propose:

The History of the ASF:
Starting from the Apache Group in 1995 to today, how did
the ASF start, where is it now, and where is it going?



Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do'  But that 'we' is
confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board?

Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification
and/or the invitation from the LF.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do.

 The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not
 responsible for selecting it.

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:05 AM
 To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

 Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first
 to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever.

 As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and 'We
 have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning: the
 LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back
 and relax?

 I stepped up. Again.

 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

  Hi.
 
 
  Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing it
  here.
 
  LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the
  financial responsibility,
  while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until you
  start asking
  which content, because that highly influenced how popular the
 conference
  will be.
 
  It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in
 order
  to get a clearer
  marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close
  cooperation with
  LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next
 week.
 
  rgds
  jan I.
 
 
 
 
 
  On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
   In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities to
   gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the
 ASF
   quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of
 the
   CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
   goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here are a
  few
   examples:
  
   *Community building with the ASF*
   About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help building
  OS
   Community
   Topics could be:
  
  - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) - Betrand
  Delacrétaz
  - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
  - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre
 Smits
  - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
  - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
  - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
  - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings
  
   *Securing With Apache products*
   About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
   Authentication  Authorization
   Topics could be:
  
  - Directory Management with Apache Directory
  - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
  - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
  - Etc
  
   So you want big? We have BIG!
   About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache products/processes
  
  - Big Data Solutions
  - Scaling with Apache products
  - Managing a BIG community
  - etc
  
  
   Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce some
   kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of
  pathway/streams
   of interests areas?
  
   I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
   interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.
  
   Best regards,
  
  
  
   Pierre Smits
  
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Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Great. Thanks for clarifying.

Pierre Smits

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 We is the ASF.

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:28 AM
 To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

 Quoting: '*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do'  But that 'we' is
 confusing. Who is that? You? I? The coordinator? The Board?

 Anyway, then 'we' can indeed sit back and relax, and wait for clarification
 and/or the invitation from the LF.

 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

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 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
 ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

  *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do.
 
  The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not
  responsible for selecting it.
 
  Sent from my Windows Phone
  
  From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com
  Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:05 AM
  To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
  Subject: Re: Proposing tracks for ACEU15
 
  Asking 'Which content' delivers many viewpoints. You have to ask it first
  to get the answers leading to focus for the best production ever.
 
  As stated in previous posting 'the ASF is responsible for content' and
 'We
  have little say in what it will be', please elaborate on this? Meaning:
 the
  LF will take more control on who to invite for talks CFP? We can sit back
  and relax?
 
  I stepped up. Again.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Pierre Smits
 
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  On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
 
   Hi.
  
  
   Thanks a lot for taking time to reach out to communities, and mailing
 it
   here.
  
   LF is responsible for producing the event, as well as carrying the
   financial responsibility,
   while ASF is responsible for the content. This seems very clear until
 you
   start asking
   which content, because that highly influenced how popular the
  conference
   will be.
  
   It is highly likely that ACEU 2015 will be differently structured, in
  order
   to get a clearer
   marketing message. We expect that to be decided this week in close
   cooperation with
   LF. The CFP(s) will open shortly after, and I hope no later than next
  week.
  
   rgds
   jan I.
  
  
  
  
  
   On 20 April 2015 at 16:36, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Hi all,
   
In the weeks prior to ACNA15 I have reached out to a few communities
 to
gather momentum for ACEU15. Based on what is in the portfolio of the
  ASF
quite a lot of interesting tracks could be built. Before the doors of
  the
CFP opens we could investigate potential topic clusters (anything
goes).  Anyway, I thought starting early gives a head start. Here
 are a
   few
examples:
   
*Community building with the ASF*
About: How visions at the ASF and the Apache products can help
 building
   OS
Community
Topics could be:
   
   - The Apache Maturity Model (or a generalisation thereof) -
 Betrand
   Delacrétaz
   - How a Code of Conduct Matters - Speaker TBD
   - A Case Study (PoC) of Community Management with OFBiz - Pierre
  Smits
   - Due Process with Apache STeVe - Speaker TBD
   - Version Control with Apache Subversion - Speaker TBD
   - Directory Management with Apache Directory - Speaker TBD
   - Conferencing with Apache OpenMeetings
   
*Securing With Apache products*
About: how Apache products support Identity Management, Security,
Authentication  Authorization
Topics could be:
   
   - Directory Management with Apache Directory
   - RBAC enablement with Apache Fortress
   - The Security Framework of Apache CXF
   - Etc
   
So you want big? We have BIG!
About the 'big' topics of today addressed by Apache
 products/processes
   
   - Big Data Solutions
   - Scaling with Apache products
   - Managing a BIG community
   - etc
   
   
Of course the above are just suggestions. Maybe we could introduce
 some
kind of tagging to create, beyond tracks, a have a kind of
   pathway/streams
of interests areas?
   
I invite you to post your suggestions of tracks/streams/broad scope
interests areas to this thread at apachecon-discuss@a.o.
   
Best regards,
   
   
   
Pierre Smits
   
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based