Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: ...If you want a suggestion, how about a quarterly newsletter to be published on the labs site and possibly mailed out to members@ and p...@... Or blog post...labs can easily get a blog under http://blogs.apache.org/ if needed. -Bertrand
Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?
Right. I keep forgetting blog posts. It's possible to create newsletters from them too (something like add a tag to include it in the newsletter). Now if only there were someone lurking on the comdev list looking for a way to contribute to the ASF, some kind of RSS to newsletter thing would be great (a manual process would do to start with), I'd mentor that. Sent from my mobile device. On 23 Jul 2010, at 08:36, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: ...If you want a suggestion, how about a quarterly newsletter to be published on the labs site and possibly mailed out to members@ and p...@... Or blog post...labs can easily get a blog under http://blogs.apache.org/ if needed. -Bertrand
Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?
What exactly do you have in mind? Just a simple tool that fetches an RSS item and sents it out as an email or do you also want it to do some formatting? On 23.07.2010 10:21, Ross Gardler wrote: Right. I keep forgetting blog posts. It's possible to create newsletters from them too (something like add a tag to include it in the newsletter). Now if only there were someone lurking on the comdev list looking for a way to contribute to the ASF, some kind of RSS to newsletter thing would be great (a manual process would do to start with), I'd mentor that. Sent from my mobile device. On 23 Jul 2010, at 08:36, Bertrand Delacretazbdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote: ...If you want a suggestion, how about a quarterly newsletter to be published on the labs site and possibly mailed out to members@ and p...@... Or blog post...labs can easily get a blog under http://blogs.apache.org/ if needed. -Bertrand
Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?
On 23/07/2010 12:45, Dave wrote: I've written a bunch of utilities like the one you describe. It's pretty easy to implement a Roller scheduled task that fires periodically, reads the most recent X entries in a tag, forms an email and sends it out. Are those really the complete requirements. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Pretty much, yes. I think it would be better to be teaser content rather than the complete content (there are RSS feeds for that). The idea is to provide a cross foundation summary of activities without requiring people to sift through all the project specific stuff. If you use Roller for the blog, you'd put teaser comment would go in the Summary field and full content would go in the Content field. On 23/07/2010 12:45, Dave wrote: What blogs would be included in the newsletter? You could create and designate one blog to be the Labs blog or look for the Labs tag across all blogs. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: I'm thinking that projects should be encouraged to release their news items through their own blog. Let me run the idea past press@ and see what they think. Assuming press@ are OK with it I'll post a mail to the appropriate lists and see if there is sufficient buy-in (i.e. we would get enough content to make it worth the effort). Either way should be easy with a Roller task we could pull from one blog or the whole site. - Dave
Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?
On 23/07/2010 13:37, Dave wrote: On 23/07/2010 12:45, Dave wrote: I've written a bunch of utilities like the one you describe. It's pretty easy to implement a Roller scheduled task that fires periodically, reads the most recent X entries in a tag, forms an email and sends it out. Are those really the complete requirements. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org wrote: Pretty much, yes. I think it would be better to be teaser content rather than the complete content (there are RSS feeds for that). The idea is to provide a cross foundation summary of activities without requiring people to sift through all the project specific stuff. If you use Roller for the blog, you'd put teaser comment would go in the Summary field and full content would go in the Content field. OK, sounds good and I can see what you mean in the system. On 23/07/2010 12:45, Dave wrote: Either way should be easy with a Roller task we could pull from one blog or the whole site. I really like the sound of that. I've sent a mail to run it past press@ (mostly out of courtesy). Ross -- rgard...@apache.org @rgardler
Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?
On 21/07/2010 19:33, Shane Curcuru wrote: I was just wondering... The Labs project (a place where any committer can starup their own independent mini-project to work on, potentially with other committers) has been awfully quiet lately. I was wondering: is doing an article or FAQ or some sort of mentor outreach within ComDev a good way to increase the sense of community within Labs? Labs was specifically created as an infrastructure for collaboration. There was never any intention for there to be community: The aim is to provide the necessary resource to promote and maintain the innovative power within the Apache community without the burden of community building. [1] Is this something comdev might have ideas about (by publicising to committers or getting mentors to talk it up, or whatever)? Or am I just having some wishful thinking? I appreciate that community around labs and community around projects in labs is potentially two different things. However, I don't see it as the role of ComDev to define what community in labs means. I do have opinions on the validity of a labs community and would be happy to share those with the labs PMC if they care, this mail is written only with my ComDev hat on. With respect to the mentor programme I would be -1 on labs projects being engaged in any way. Similarly I would discourage mentors from pointing to labs as an example of community development (although as volunteers I won't stop them from doing so). This should not reflect on labs (which is a valuable project in the ASF) but rather it reflects the goal of the mentoring programme. The goal is to teach people about community development processes used in TLPs. Since the labs projects explicitly ignore that kind of activity I don't see that there is any overlap. Speaking personally, I see labs as outside the current scope of ComDev work. Of course, if the labs PMC want to use the ComDev vehicle, or if someone in ComDev wants to work with the labs PMC, to do some outreach that's a different case. Ross [1] http://labs.apache.org/
