Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-27 Thread Mark Struberg
probably the most important for me is mac ports. It's basically a BSD package 
manager with OSX packages. You can install all the *NIX stuff easily.

There is also a graphical UI called Porticus.

LieGrue,
strub




- Original Message -
 From: Roger and Beth Whitcomb rogerandb...@rbwhitcomb.com
 To: dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 6:21
 Subject: Re: Setup  development software for Macs?
 
 As far as basic text editors, TextWrangler is probably the best: 
 http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ (and it's free). Also 
 available via the App Store.  Although the XCode editor is very nice as 
 well.  And I've used UltraEdit on a PC, and they now have a Mac version 
 (cost is minimal) (http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mac-text-editor.html).
 
 ~Roger Whitcomb
 
 On 6/26/13 8:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
  I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and couldn't 
 really
  tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite a bit of stuff
  on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert (considerably 
 less
  than all night).
 
  Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then repair holes when
  you need them.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende 
 luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru 
 a...@shanecurcuru.org
  wrote:
 
  I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how 
 other
  committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.
 
  In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?
 
  Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just 
 simple
  markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.
 
  Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is 
 there
  any
  reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no
  brainer
  for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in 
 Firewall?
 
  Related, what are decent options for parental control software for 
 macs 
  iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and 
 monitor
  what our daughter does on the computer...
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
  - Shane
 
  Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
  http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html
 
  Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of 
 what
  you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)
 
  As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's 
 kind
  required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for 
 work)
  but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much 
 content on
  the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.
 
  --
  Luciano Resende
  http://people.apache.org/~lresende
  http://twitter.com/lresende1975
  http://lresende.blogspot.com/
 



Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-27 Thread Olivier Lamy
Try http://brew.sh

Yes brew vs mac port is probably like vi vs emacs :-)


2013/6/27 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de:
 probably the most important for me is mac ports. It's basically a BSD package 
 manager with OSX packages. You can install all the *NIX stuff easily.

 There is also a graphical UI called Porticus.

 LieGrue,
 strub




 - Original Message -
 From: Roger and Beth Whitcomb rogerandb...@rbwhitcomb.com
 To: dev@community.apache.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 6:21
 Subject: Re: Setup  development software for Macs?

 As far as basic text editors, TextWrangler is probably the best:
 http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ (and it's free). Also
 available via the App Store.  Although the XCode editor is very nice as
 well.  And I've used UltraEdit on a PC, and they now have a Mac version
 (cost is minimal) (http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mac-text-editor.html).

 ~Roger Whitcomb

 On 6/26/13 8:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
  I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and couldn't
 really
  tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite a bit of stuff
  on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert (considerably
 less
  than all night).

  Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then repair holes when
  you need them.



  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende
 luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:

  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru
 a...@shanecurcuru.org
  wrote:

  I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how
 other
  committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.

  In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?

  Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just
 simple
  markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.

  Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is
 there
  any
  reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no
  brainer
  for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in
 Firewall?

  Related, what are decent options for parental control software for
 macs 
  iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and
 monitor
  what our daughter does on the computer...

  Thanks in advance!

  - Shane

  Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
  http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html

  Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of
 what
  you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)

  As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's
 kind
  required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for
 work)
  but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much
 content on
  the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.

  --
  Luciano Resende
  http://people.apache.org/~lresende
  http://twitter.com/lresende1975
  http://lresende.blogspot.com/





-- 
Olivier Lamy
Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy


Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On 27 June 2013 03:20, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how other
 committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.

Install xcode and the commandline tools that come with it (look in
preferences).

I use homebrew http://brew.sh/ in preference to macports.

apple's term is good, but I like http://www.iterm2.com/ better.

 In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?

http://www.sourcetreeapp.com/ is free if you give atlassian an email address.

 Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just simple
 markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.

http://mouapp.com/ is a super-simple markdown editor that imho gets
things right.

bikesheds galore :-). I spend 80% of my day in komodo ide (but the
free komodo edit is very nice too), 20% vi, occasionally sublime text,
but I never really liked it. Aquamacs is nice for people who drank the
kool-aid.

 Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is there any
 reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no brainer
 for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in Firewall?


Other stuff I use:

## passwords

http://www.keepassx.org/  there are fancier tools but it's opensource
https://github.com/keepassx/keepassx

## communicating

skype but I would love a SIP-based OSS alternative

IRC: textual http://www.codeux.com/textual/  is nice, BSD licenced,
but you can buy a built copy from app store.
http://limechat.net/mac/ is another popular option.

## apps

vlc http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html for watching videos.

firefox nightly + chrome canary for web dev.

If you sign up for the free microsoft MSDN deal that ASF gets, you can
install excel/word/powerpoint etc if you need them.

Amazon's free Kindle.app for reading books (lots of gutenberg project
ones  similar free stories in mobi format)
calibre http://calibre-ebook.com/ for managing all my ebooks (on an
aging Kindle DX).

fluid.app turns browser windows into separate apps http://fluidapp.com/

vmware fusion + vagrant  ansible for spinning up instances everywhere
and configuring them.

## storage

MacZFS http://code.google.com/p/maczfs/ is pretty good, albeit an old
version. once I got past 4GiB of RAM I've had no trouble. SSD with zfs
compression is nifty, I have it on a 2nd internal drive.

I use openafs instead of dropbox.

backup: arq http://www.haystacksoftware.com/arq/ I used backblaze and
time machine for backups, but I prefer controlling my own storage.

github  bitbucket for really important stuff.

## productivity

launchers - http://www.alfredapp.com/
  others swear by http://qsapp.com/ quicksilver, the latter is
free https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver and ALv2 licenced.

pomodoro app is great, https://github.com/ugol/pomodoro BSD licenced
but you can buy from app store

http://www.pomodoroapp.com/help/pomodoro-timer-for-mac/ is a more
GTD-heavy app, with a free option.

A+
Dave


Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-27 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On 27 June 2013 11:40, Dave Cottlehuber d...@jsonified.com wrote:


Last but not least, how could I forget https://gpgtools.org/ ?


Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-27 Thread Ted Dunning
Regardless of which you choose,

+1 non-deterministically for either brew or mac port.

Very useful.


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:

 Try http://brew.sh

 Yes brew vs mac port is probably like vi vs emacs :-)


 2013/6/27 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de:
  probably the most important for me is mac ports. It's basically a BSD
 package manager with OSX packages. You can install all the *NIX stuff
 easily.
 
  There is also a graphical UI called Porticus.
 
  LieGrue,
  strub
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Roger and Beth Whitcomb rogerandb...@rbwhitcomb.com
  To: dev@community.apache.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 6:21
  Subject: Re: Setup  development software for Macs?
 
  As far as basic text editors, TextWrangler is probably the best:
  http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ (and it's free). Also
  available via the App Store.  Although the XCode editor is very nice as
  well.  And I've used UltraEdit on a PC, and they now have a Mac version
  (cost is minimal) (
 http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mac-text-editor.html).
 
  ~Roger Whitcomb
 
  On 6/26/13 8:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
   I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and couldn't
  really
   tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite a bit of
 stuff
   on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert (considerably
  less
   than all night).
 
   Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then repair holes
 when
   you need them.
 
 
 
   On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende
  luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru
  a...@shanecurcuru.org
   wrote:
 
   I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how
  other
   committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.
 
   In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?
 
   Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just
  simple
   markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.
 
   Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is
  there
   any
   reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no
   brainer
   for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in
  Firewall?
 
   Related, what are decent options for parental control software for
  macs 
   iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and
  monitor
   what our daughter does on the computer...
 
   Thanks in advance!
 
   - Shane
 
   Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
   http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html
 
   Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of
  what
   you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)
 
   As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's
  kind
   required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for
  work)
   but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much
  content on
   the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.
 
   --
   Luciano Resende
   http://people.apache.org/~lresende
   http://twitter.com/lresende1975
   http://lresende.blogspot.com/
 
 



 --
 Olivier Lamy
 Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
 http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy



Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
Having come from a FreeBSD background, I find MacPorts much better.

On Jun 27, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Regardless of which you choose,
 
 +1 non-deterministically for either brew or mac port.
 
 Very useful.
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
 
 Try http://brew.sh
 
 Yes brew vs mac port is probably like vi vs emacs :-)
 
 
 2013/6/27 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de:
 probably the most important for me is mac ports. It's basically a BSD
 package manager with OSX packages. You can install all the *NIX stuff
 easily.
 
 There is also a graphical UI called Porticus.
 
 LieGrue,
 strub
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Roger and Beth Whitcomb rogerandb...@rbwhitcomb.com
 To: dev@community.apache.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 6:21
 Subject: Re: Setup  development software for Macs?
 
 As far as basic text editors, TextWrangler is probably the best:
 http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ (and it's free). Also
 available via the App Store.  Although the XCode editor is very nice as
 well.  And I've used UltraEdit on a PC, and they now have a Mac version
 (cost is minimal) (
 http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mac-text-editor.html).
 
 ~Roger Whitcomb
 
 On 6/26/13 8:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
 I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and couldn't
 really
 tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite a bit of
 stuff
 on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert (considerably
 less
 than all night).
 
 Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then repair holes
 when
 you need them.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende
 luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru
 a...@shanecurcuru.org
 wrote:
 
 I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how
 other
 committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.
 
 In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?
 
 Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just
 simple
 markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.
 
 Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is
 there
 any
 reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no
 brainer
 for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in
 Firewall?
 
 Related, what are decent options for parental control software for
 macs 
 iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and
 monitor
 what our daughter does on the computer...
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 - Shane
 
 Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
 http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html
 
 Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of
 what
 you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)
 
 As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's
 kind
 required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for
 work)
 but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much
 content on
 the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.
 
 --
 Luciano Resende
 http://people.apache.org/~lresende
 http://twitter.com/lresende1975
 http://lresende.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Olivier Lamy
 Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
 http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
 



Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-26 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:

 I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how other
 committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.

 In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?

 Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just simple
 markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.

 Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is there any
 reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no brainer
 for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in Firewall?

 Related, what are decent options for parental control software for macs 
 iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and monitor
 what our daughter does on the computer...

 Thanks in advance!

 - Shane


Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html

Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of what
you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)

As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's kind
required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for work)
but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much content on
the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.

-- 
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/


Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-26 Thread Ted Dunning
I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and couldn't really
tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite a bit of stuff
on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert (considerably less
than all night).

Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then repair holes when
you need them.



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org
 wrote:

  I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how other
  committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.
 
  In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?
 
  Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just simple
  markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.
 
  Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is there
 any
  reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no
 brainer
  for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in Firewall?
 
  Related, what are decent options for parental control software for macs 
  iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and monitor
  what our daughter does on the computer...
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
  - Shane
 

 Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
 http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html

 Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of what
 you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)

 As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's kind
 required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for work)
 but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much content on
 the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.

 --
 Luciano Resende
 http://people.apache.org/~lresende
 http://twitter.com/lresende1975
 http://lresende.blogspot.com/



Re: Setup development software for Macs?

2013-06-26 Thread Roger and Beth Whitcomb
As far as basic text editors, TextWrangler is probably the best: 
http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ (and it's free). Also 
available via the App Store.  Although the XCode editor is very nice as 
well.  And I've used UltraEdit on a PC, and they now have a Mac version 
(cost is minimal) (http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mac-text-editor.html).


~Roger Whitcomb

On 6/26/13 8:47 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:

I tested disk I/O before and after enabling FileVault and couldn't really
tell the difference.  I also turned it on after I had quite a bit of stuff
on the disk and it didn't take all that long to convert (considerably less
than all night).

Leave the firewall on.  It is very easy to poke and then repair holes when
you need them.



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org
wrote:


I just switched to a Mac for much of my stuff, and am wondering how other
committers organize their Macs and what kind of software they use.

In particular, what's the best GUI-ish SVN clients?

Your favorite basic text editors?  I don't need a big IDE, just simple
markdown/python/ruby, and occasional web page editing.

Also, a silly question, I know, but if I have my work on SSD, is there

any

reason that I should *not* configure FileVault?  It seems like a no

brainer

for any laptop.  Similarly, any reason to turn off the built-in Firewall?

Related, what are decent options for parental control software for macs 
iPads?  It's obvious that we will need some way to restrict and monitor
what our daughter does on the computer...

Thanks in advance!

- Shane


Take a look at this, seems like some good pointers :
http://www.josebrowne.com/from-windows-to-mac-dev.html

Also, install Xcode command line tools, that should give you most of what
you need (e.g. svn, git, and some other stuff required for basic dev)

As for FileVault, I use that with no issues (and you know, it's kind
required by our employers... in case you ever use your mac for work)
but if you choose to do it, do it now, while you don't have much content on
the SSD. Firewall is always ON as well.

--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/