Re: AS3 on the server
Hi Chris, a few month ago, I tried out Nashorn to achieve a fast pure-Java RequireJS build process. RequireJS' optimizer r.js is written in JavaScript and runs in Node.js and Rhino. Unfortunately, in Rhino, it is about ten times slower than in Node.js. So when I heard that Nashorn is to be much faster than Rhino, I had quite high expectations towards Nashorn and tweaked r.js to be Nashorn-compatible. Sorry to say that the result was quite disappointing: it was about three times faster than Rhino, but this is still about three times slower than Node.js / V8 (which is not the latest and fastest JS engine either). Maybe it was because of the pre-release version, which as far as I heard still missed many of the performance optimizations? I should try again with a current version... -Frank- On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Christofer Dutz christofer.d...@c-ware.dewrote: In this case you should have a look at the Nashorn Project. It's a JavaScript engine running natively inside the Java VM and hereby on the Server: https://blogs.oracle.com/thejavatutorials/entry/javaone_2013_nashorn_javascript_on Chris Von: Frank Wienberg fr...@jangaroo.net Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013 09:00 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: AS3 on the server What about compiling AS3 to JS using FalconJx and running the result in Node.js? All you'd need are some ActionScript stub APIs of the corresponding Node.js modules... On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
What about compiling AS3 to JS using FalconJx and running the result in Node.js? All you'd need are some ActionScript stub APIs of the corresponding Node.js modules... On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
AW: AS3 on the server
In this case you should have a look at the Nashorn Project. It's a JavaScript engine running natively inside the Java VM and hereby on the Server: https://blogs.oracle.com/thejavatutorials/entry/javaone_2013_nashorn_javascript_on Chris Von: Frank Wienberg fr...@jangaroo.net Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013 09:00 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: AS3 on the server What about compiling AS3 to JS using FalconJx and running the result in Node.js? All you'd need are some ActionScript stub APIs of the corresponding Node.js modules... On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
always had this idea kicking around and it seems i'm not the only one! Best Regards! Dave Subject: Re: AS3 on the server From: harbs.li...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:49:26 +0200 To: dev@flex.apache.org Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was supposed to have been rolled into Coldfusion. So I assume that's a non-starter… On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote: It was MAX 2008: http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/ On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote: I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember it was an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360 Flex conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and it's using JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then maybe node.js could use that. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com wrote: or maybe this: https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache? -- Mr. Rich Reshape Media: http://www.reshapemedia.com
Re: AS3 on the server
I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember it was an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360 Flex conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and it's using JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then maybe node.js could use that. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com wrote: or maybe this: https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
It was MAX 2008: http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/ On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote: I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember it was an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360 Flex conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and it's using JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then maybe node.js could use that. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com wrote: or maybe this: https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was supposed to have been rolled into Coldfusion. So I assume that's a non-starter… On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote: It was MAX 2008: http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/ On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote: I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember it was an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360 Flex conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and it's using JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then maybe node.js could use that. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com wrote: or maybe this: https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
RE: AS3 on the server
For what it's worth, I've often shared the opinion that AS3 would be an ideal
server language. Strongly structured, native events which in my opinion is a
world better than java. In my mind the language itself is mature, and elegant
and the only thing missing is a strong set of database access libs to work as a
web service.
as far as how you would implement it as a platform, I always pictured that the
ideal situation would be a worker based solution, using workers for db access
and a mxml approach for html files, similar to how php can script a page, with
the mxml components implemented similar to how CakePHP implements an element.
we can use a flag like ?mx . ?
ie:
index.mhtm:
html
?mx
this.addHere(
HeadElementFactory.getHeadFor(this)
);
?
...
/html
sure this is a fast ugly incomplete example, but what i have defined more clear
in my head is how we would do the server
inside an mhtm file we can directly call a server component like:
(Server.getService(FacebookService) as
IFacebookService).getFriends(onFriendsResult);
we would then be able to pass the data to an mhtm element and using jQuery-ish
selectors inject the data into the dom of the parent page, or better yet invent
some kind of anchor class that we can use in the result handler to build html
directly on the server, inserting content at a given tagged point of the dom.
and build out the dom prior to serving the page to the browser.
In terms of mapping a REST (for instance) call,
Server.mapService('{locale}/{controller}/{method}/[named]/{argv}')
again, much, much definition is lacking... but i've given this great thought
over the years.
I have long thought that AS3 as a language has a UNIQUE advantage over other
server languages. The SWF encapsulation is a tricky technical challenge, and
the creation of a stable and robust web service framework would obviously be a
big task.
but I just thought that maybe, just maybe, it's worth just throwing this out
there for anyone who might have similar ideas to build on!
So anyway, hope you all like my fantasy server idea... maybe i'm full of it...
maybe i'm actually on to something. but I've always had this idea kicking
around and it seems i'm not the only one!
Best Regards!
Dave
Subject: Re: AS3 on the server
From: harbs.li...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:49:26 +0200
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was supposed
to have been rolled into Coldfusion.
So I assume that's a non-starter…
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote:
It was MAX 2008:
http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote:
I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember it was
an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360 Flex
conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and it's using
JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then maybe
node.js could use that.
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com wrote:
or maybe this:
https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote:
At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can
use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can
be
donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
Here's a solution. Because Adobe didn't release this for AS3, I built it
into FTML a few years back!
1. RSL support - FMTL will load any swf as an RSL and allow you call any
method or construct any class using your swf file.
2. MXML web compiler - FTML will allow you compile mxml code directly on
the HTML page - and it works as you would expect, similar to Flash Builder
where you only need to define the namespace of the class.
Most of what I just said can be found here:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/runtime-libraries/
3. Web based AS3 - FTML has multiple scripting support where you can (1)
write code in javascript and pass data between js and flash, (2) write pure
AS3 code (like Java so flash.display.DisplayOjbect not DisplayObject)
4. All flash code is IN THE BROWSER, NO COMPILING - only refresh and go!
5. PHP and flash - FTML is a markup so you can use it just like HTML with
PHP no extra config required:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/php-to-flash/
6. Javascript and flash - fastest integration possible:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/javascript-to-flash/
Remember FTML is free - so try it with your swf and see for your self.
Support is there for 4.6, 4.11 support will come in 2013.
Any questions or comments - mrr...@reshapemedia.com (fastest way to get in
touch).
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Coleman
david_coleman_...@hotmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I've often shared the opinion that AS3 would be an
ideal server language. Strongly structured, native events which in my
opinion is a world better than java. In my mind the language itself is
mature, and elegant and the only thing missing is a strong set of database
access libs to work as a web service.
as far as how you would implement it as a platform, I always pictured that
the ideal situation would be a worker based solution, using workers for db
access and a mxml approach for html files, similar to how php can script a
page, with the mxml components implemented similar to how CakePHP
implements an element. we can use a flag like ?mx . ?
ie:
index.mhtm:
html
?mx
this.addHere(
HeadElementFactory.getHeadFor(this)
);
?
...
/html
sure this is a fast ugly incomplete example, but what i have defined more
clear in my head is how we would do the server
inside an mhtm file we can directly call a server component like:
(Server.getService(FacebookService) as
IFacebookService).getFriends(onFriendsResult);
we would then be able to pass the data to an mhtm element and using
jQuery-ish selectors inject the data into the dom of the parent page, or
better yet invent some kind of anchor class that we can use in the result
handler to build html directly on the server, inserting content at a given
tagged point of the dom. and build out the dom prior to serving the page to
the browser.
In terms of mapping a REST (for instance) call,
Server.mapService('{locale}/{controller}/{method}/[named]/{argv}')
again, much, much definition is lacking... but i've given this great
thought over the years.
I have long thought that AS3 as a language has a UNIQUE advantage over
other server languages. The SWF encapsulation is a tricky technical
challenge, and the creation of a stable and robust web service framework
would obviously be a big task.
but I just thought that maybe, just maybe, it's worth just throwing this
out there for anyone who might have similar ideas to build on!
So anyway, hope you all like my fantasy server idea... maybe i'm full of
it... maybe i'm actually on to something. but I've always had this idea
kicking around and it seems i'm not the only one!
Best Regards!
Dave
Subject: Re: AS3 on the server
From: harbs.li...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:49:26 +0200
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was
supposed to have been rolled into Coldfusion.
So I assume that's a non-starter…
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote:
It was MAX 2008:
http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote:
I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember
it was
an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360 Flex
conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and it's
using
JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then
maybe
node.js could use that.
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com
wrote:
or maybe this:
https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com
wrote:
At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js
you can
use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it
something can
be
donated to Apache
Re: AS3 on the server
Another reason why you guyz should switch to GWT :)
Java all the way to the backend :)
2013/12/2 Mr. Rich mrrich@gmail.com
Here's a solution. Because Adobe didn't release this for AS3, I built it
into FTML a few years back!
1. RSL support - FMTL will load any swf as an RSL and allow you call any
method or construct any class using your swf file.
2. MXML web compiler - FTML will allow you compile mxml code directly on
the HTML page - and it works as you would expect, similar to Flash Builder
where you only need to define the namespace of the class.
Most of what I just said can be found here:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/runtime-libraries/
3. Web based AS3 - FTML has multiple scripting support where you can (1)
write code in javascript and pass data between js and flash, (2) write pure
AS3 code (like Java so flash.display.DisplayOjbect not DisplayObject)
4. All flash code is IN THE BROWSER, NO COMPILING - only refresh and go!
5. PHP and flash - FTML is a markup so you can use it just like HTML with
PHP no extra config required:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/php-to-flash/
6. Javascript and flash - fastest integration possible:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/javascript-to-flash/
Remember FTML is free - so try it with your swf and see for your self.
Support is there for 4.6, 4.11 support will come in 2013.
Any questions or comments - mrr...@reshapemedia.com (fastest way to get in
touch).
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Coleman
david_coleman_...@hotmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I've often shared the opinion that AS3 would be an
ideal server language. Strongly structured, native events which in my
opinion is a world better than java. In my mind the language itself is
mature, and elegant and the only thing missing is a strong set of
database
access libs to work as a web service.
as far as how you would implement it as a platform, I always pictured
that
the ideal situation would be a worker based solution, using workers for
db
access and a mxml approach for html files, similar to how php can script
a
page, with the mxml components implemented similar to how CakePHP
implements an element. we can use a flag like ?mx . ?
ie:
index.mhtm:
html
?mx
this.addHere(
HeadElementFactory.getHeadFor(this)
);
?
...
/html
sure this is a fast ugly incomplete example, but what i have defined more
clear in my head is how we would do the server
inside an mhtm file we can directly call a server component like:
(Server.getService(FacebookService) as
IFacebookService).getFriends(onFriendsResult);
we would then be able to pass the data to an mhtm element and using
jQuery-ish selectors inject the data into the dom of the parent page, or
better yet invent some kind of anchor class that we can use in the
result
handler to build html directly on the server, inserting content at a
given
tagged point of the dom. and build out the dom prior to serving the page
to
the browser.
In terms of mapping a REST (for instance) call,
Server.mapService('{locale}/{controller}/{method}/[named]/{argv}')
again, much, much definition is lacking... but i've given this great
thought over the years.
I have long thought that AS3 as a language has a UNIQUE advantage over
other server languages. The SWF encapsulation is a tricky technical
challenge, and the creation of a stable and robust web service framework
would obviously be a big task.
but I just thought that maybe, just maybe, it's worth just throwing this
out there for anyone who might have similar ideas to build on!
So anyway, hope you all like my fantasy server idea... maybe i'm full of
it... maybe i'm actually on to something. but I've always had this idea
kicking around and it seems i'm not the only one!
Best Regards!
Dave
Subject: Re: AS3 on the server
From: harbs.li...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:49:26 +0200
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was
supposed to have been rolled into Coldfusion.
So I assume that's a non-starter…
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote:
It was MAX 2008:
http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote:
I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I remember
it was
an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360
Flex
conference. The point was that node js is gaining popularity and
it's
using
JS. I thought if there was something on on the server in AS3 then
maybe
node.js could use that.
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Petr Svoboda wor...@gmail.com
wrote:
or maybe this:
https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts
On Sat, Nov 30
Re: AS3 on the server
Talking on GWT, I've recently ported Uriana to suit with GWT projects and
we're currently testing it at several enterprise projects. The code is at
Uriana's SVN site.
2013/12/2 Alain Ekambi jazzmatad...@gmail.com
Another reason why you guyz should switch to GWT :)
Java all the way to the backend :)
2013/12/2 Mr. Rich mrrich@gmail.com
Here's a solution. Because Adobe didn't release this for AS3, I built it
into FTML a few years back!
1. RSL support - FMTL will load any swf as an RSL and allow you call any
method or construct any class using your swf file.
2. MXML web compiler - FTML will allow you compile mxml code directly on
the HTML page - and it works as you would expect, similar to Flash
Builder
where you only need to define the namespace of the class.
Most of what I just said can be found here:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/runtime-libraries/
3. Web based AS3 - FTML has multiple scripting support where you can (1)
write code in javascript and pass data between js and flash, (2) write
pure
AS3 code (like Java so flash.display.DisplayOjbect not DisplayObject)
4. All flash code is IN THE BROWSER, NO COMPILING - only refresh and go!
5. PHP and flash - FTML is a markup so you can use it just like HTML with
PHP no extra config required:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/php-to-flash/
6. Javascript and flash - fastest integration possible:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/javascript-to-flash/
Remember FTML is free - so try it with your swf and see for your self.
Support is there for 4.6, 4.11 support will come in 2013.
Any questions or comments - mrr...@reshapemedia.com (fastest way to get
in
touch).
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Coleman
david_coleman_...@hotmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I've often shared the opinion that AS3 would be an
ideal server language. Strongly structured, native events which in my
opinion is a world better than java. In my mind the language itself is
mature, and elegant and the only thing missing is a strong set of
database
access libs to work as a web service.
as far as how you would implement it as a platform, I always pictured
that
the ideal situation would be a worker based solution, using workers for
db
access and a mxml approach for html files, similar to how php can
script
a
page, with the mxml components implemented similar to how CakePHP
implements an element. we can use a flag like ?mx . ?
ie:
index.mhtm:
html
?mx
this.addHere(
HeadElementFactory.getHeadFor(this)
);
?
...
/html
sure this is a fast ugly incomplete example, but what i have defined
more
clear in my head is how we would do the server
inside an mhtm file we can directly call a server component like:
(Server.getService(FacebookService) as
IFacebookService).getFriends(onFriendsResult);
we would then be able to pass the data to an mhtm element and using
jQuery-ish selectors inject the data into the dom of the parent page,
or
better yet invent some kind of anchor class that we can use in the
result
handler to build html directly on the server, inserting content at a
given
tagged point of the dom. and build out the dom prior to serving the
page
to
the browser.
In terms of mapping a REST (for instance) call,
Server.mapService('{locale}/{controller}/{method}/[named]/{argv}')
again, much, much definition is lacking... but i've given this great
thought over the years.
I have long thought that AS3 as a language has a UNIQUE advantage over
other server languages. The SWF encapsulation is a tricky technical
challenge, and the creation of a stable and robust web service
framework
would obviously be a big task.
but I just thought that maybe, just maybe, it's worth just throwing
this
out there for anyone who might have similar ideas to build on!
So anyway, hope you all like my fantasy server idea... maybe i'm full
of
it... maybe i'm actually on to something. but I've always had this
idea
kicking around and it seems i'm not the only one!
Best Regards!
Dave
Subject: Re: AS3 on the server
From: harbs.li...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:49:26 +0200
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was
supposed to have been rolled into Coldfusion.
So I assume that's a non-starter…
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote:
It was MAX 2008:
http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jude wrote:
I'm glad to see there are others out there but from what I
remember
it was
an Adobe project. I think it was mentioned at an Adobe Max or 360
Flex
conference. The point
Re: AS3 on the server
@Carlos
That sounds cool.
Any link ?
2013/12/2 Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com
Talking on GWT, I've recently ported Uriana to suit with GWT projects and
we're currently testing it at several enterprise projects. The code is at
Uriana's SVN site.
2013/12/2 Alain Ekambi jazzmatad...@gmail.com
Another reason why you guyz should switch to GWT :)
Java all the way to the backend :)
2013/12/2 Mr. Rich mrrich@gmail.com
Here's a solution. Because Adobe didn't release this for AS3, I built
it
into FTML a few years back!
1. RSL support - FMTL will load any swf as an RSL and allow you call
any
method or construct any class using your swf file.
2. MXML web compiler - FTML will allow you compile mxml code directly
on
the HTML page - and it works as you would expect, similar to Flash
Builder
where you only need to define the namespace of the class.
Most of what I just said can be found here:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/runtime-libraries/
3. Web based AS3 - FTML has multiple scripting support where you can
(1)
write code in javascript and pass data between js and flash, (2) write
pure
AS3 code (like Java so flash.display.DisplayOjbect not DisplayObject)
4. All flash code is IN THE BROWSER, NO COMPILING - only refresh and
go!
5. PHP and flash - FTML is a markup so you can use it just like HTML
with
PHP no extra config required:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/php-to-flash/
6. Javascript and flash - fastest integration possible:
http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/learn/javascript-to-flash/
Remember FTML is free - so try it with your swf and see for your self.
Support is there for 4.6, 4.11 support will come in 2013.
Any questions or comments - mrr...@reshapemedia.com (fastest way to
get
in
touch).
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Coleman
david_coleman_...@hotmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I've often shared the opinion that AS3 would be
an
ideal server language. Strongly structured, native events which in
my
opinion is a world better than java. In my mind the language itself
is
mature, and elegant and the only thing missing is a strong set of
database
access libs to work as a web service.
as far as how you would implement it as a platform, I always pictured
that
the ideal situation would be a worker based solution, using workers
for
db
access and a mxml approach for html files, similar to how php can
script
a
page, with the mxml components implemented similar to how CakePHP
implements an element. we can use a flag like ?mx . ?
ie:
index.mhtm:
html
?mx
this.addHere(
HeadElementFactory.getHeadFor(this)
);
?
...
/html
sure this is a fast ugly incomplete example, but what i have defined
more
clear in my head is how we would do the server
inside an mhtm file we can directly call a server component like:
(Server.getService(FacebookService) as
IFacebookService).getFriends(onFriendsResult);
we would then be able to pass the data to an mhtm element and using
jQuery-ish selectors inject the data into the dom of the parent page,
or
better yet invent some kind of anchor class that we can use in the
result
handler to build html directly on the server, inserting content at a
given
tagged point of the dom. and build out the dom prior to serving the
page
to
the browser.
In terms of mapping a REST (for instance) call,
Server.mapService('{locale}/{controller}/{method}/[named]/{argv}')
again, much, much definition is lacking... but i've given this great
thought over the years.
I have long thought that AS3 as a language has a UNIQUE advantage
over
other server languages. The SWF encapsulation is a tricky technical
challenge, and the creation of a stable and robust web service
framework
would obviously be a big task.
but I just thought that maybe, just maybe, it's worth just throwing
this
out there for anyone who might have similar ideas to build on!
So anyway, hope you all like my fantasy server idea... maybe i'm
full
of
it... maybe i'm actually on to something. but I've always had this
idea
kicking around and it seems i'm not the only one!
Best Regards!
Dave
Subject: Re: AS3 on the server
From: harbs.li...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:49:26 +0200
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Of course, the links on that blog post seem to indicate that it was
supposed to have been rolled into Coldfusion.
So I assume that's a non-starter…
On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Harbs wrote:
It was MAX 2008:
http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2008/11/18/max-2008-sneak-peek-actionscript-3-as-a-server-side
Re: AS3 on the server
Adobe did have a few alphas of ColdFusion 9 that existed with an AS3 compiler. It was pretty much a bastardization of Flex Data Services / Flex compiler that had some mappings to server side components to do server things... Essentially, you stuck some as3 files on the server and they ran like a CFM/CFC. I thought it was a wicked feature, but it got ripped out pretty quick because most of the people on the betas were complaining about causing a split in the community and not knowing AS3 I don't think it is something they are in a position to donate... it was pretty raw back then and I'm sure it is no better since its development was stopped. -Nick On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 5:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
Hmm. It is documented [1] http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea7785946117 2e0811cbec22c24-79aa.html That makes me think it shipped, but I haven't tried it. -Alex On 12/2/13 11:54 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski nicho...@spoon.as wrote: Adobe did have a few alphas of ColdFusion 9 that existed with an AS3 compiler. It was pretty much a bastardization of Flex Data Services / Flex compiler that had some mappings to server side components to do server things... Essentially, you stuck some as3 files on the server and they ran like a CFM/CFC. I thought it was a wicked feature, but it got ripped out pretty quick because most of the people on the betas were complaining about causing a split in the community and not knowing AS3 I don't think it is something they are in a position to donate... it was pretty raw back then and I'm sure it is no better since its development was stopped. -Nick On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 5:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
Oh, man. They introduced the FRG (Flash Remoting Gateway) in I think CF MX 6.1. It worked within ACF 7, but only when you had FDS/BlazeDS installed... and then it was only AS2, and supported only like 3 CF tags. It broke in CF8 (the connectors were never updated to work properly), and didn't even ship with CF9 (you could download CF7 or CF8 and move the JARs around yourself and rebuild the connectors from scratch). It's the same runtime that was included in FCS/AMS (but ran through the enterprise router, so it was limited to 1 thread per license). I'm surprised they kept it in the docs. The AS3 support they included pretty much exposed all the CFSCRIPT components as AS3 objects. It was a new runtime that was on track to make CF fully support more than one language... Or at least that was how it was introduced... -Nick On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Hmm. It is documented [1] http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea7785946117 2e0811cbec22c24-79aa.html That makes me think it shipped, but I haven't tried it. -Alex On 12/2/13 11:54 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski nicho...@spoon.as wrote: Adobe did have a few alphas of ColdFusion 9 that existed with an AS3 compiler. It was pretty much a bastardization of Flex Data Services / Flex compiler that had some mappings to server side components to do server things... Essentially, you stuck some as3 files on the server and they ran like a CFM/CFC. I thought it was a wicked feature, but it got ripped out pretty quick because most of the people on the betas were complaining about causing a split in the community and not knowing AS3 I don't think it is something they are in a position to donate... it was pretty raw back then and I'm sure it is no better since its development was stopped. -Nick On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 5:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
On 12/3/2013 2:54 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: like a CFM/CFC. I thought it was a wicked feature, but it got ripped out pretty quick because most of the people on the betas were complaining about causing a split in the community and not knowing AS3 i don't remember folks complaining about it much. i also don't recall the cf team ever saying why they dumped it. i'm always in favor of it, if for nothing else but to stop me from ripping out any more of my hair over where arrays start cf vs AS3 ;-)
Re: AS3 on the server
On 12/3/2013 3:09 AM, Alex Harui wrote: Hmm. It is documented [1] http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea7785946117 2e0811cbec22c24-79aa.html That makes me think it shipped, but I haven't tried it. not sure that's the same thing. if i recall that's been in cf for quite a while but i don't ever recall using it. i think the closest thing were the flash forms that got built on-the-fly using a flex 1.0 (??) compiler server side were key word restricted to protect the full flex product. some of us went a little overboard with it anyway ;-)
Re: AS3 on the server
On 12/3/2013 4:11 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: The AS3 support they included pretty much exposed all the CFSCRIPT components as AS3 objects. It was a new runtime that was on track to make CF fully support more than one language... Or at least that was how it was introduced... yeah that's what i remember too.
Re: AS3 on the server
Yes I do remember the cold fusion flash forms. Strange it's so long ago almost another life aYo mrbinitie.blogspot.com On 3 Dec 2013 01:33, Paul Hastings paul.hasti...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/3/2013 3:09 AM, Alex Harui wrote: Hmm. It is documented [1] http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/ WSc3ff6d0ea7785946117 2e0811cbec22c24-79aa.html That makes me think it shipped, but I haven't tried it. not sure that's the same thing. if i recall that's been in cf for quite a while but i don't ever recall using it. i think the closest thing were the flash forms that got built on-the-fly using a flex 1.0 (??) compiler server side were key word restricted to protect the full flex product. some of us went a little overboard with it anyway ;-)
Re: AS3 on the server
or maybe this: https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/wiki/RunningShellScripts On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, jude flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
AS3 on the server
At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache?
Re: AS3 on the server
On 11/30/13 2:06 PM, flexcapaci...@gmail.com flexcapaci...@gmail.com wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache? Don't know. I think there are a couple of efforts. Here's one: http://code.google.com/p/mod-actionscript/ -Alex
Re: AS3 on the server
On 12/1/2013 5:06 AM, jude wrote: At one time there was talk about AS3 on the server. With node.js you can use JS on the server. What happened to that project? Is it something can be donated to Apache? there was talk at one time for that being in coldfusion. don't think much came of it.
