Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Yeah I pretty much figured that. What I can't figure out is if a d.ts definition is actually TS or some sub type that has special rules. I looked through the TS parser and compiler code and didn't see anything specific to a d.ts file so I am assuming it's TS. The problem here is two fold, one trying to create a scanner for TS and two the language is still greek to me as far as quickly understanding how to map a d.ts AST to actionscript. As I said early, forking the TS compiler and then emitting as from it was a first consideration but looking at the code, that ain't going to happen. :) So in the end it's write an antlr grammar(not going to happen), create a tokenizer by hand that uses characters and state transitions or using some type of regexp to scan things as you parse each line thus putting the scanner in states to save some type of simple AST that we can then walk/visit and emit actionscript. First the as spec for d.as files needs to be documented, then the tool can be thought about. We need to think about exactly what and how this stuff translates back to javascript during compilation (from the SWC definition). Mike On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/31/15, 6:02 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: On May 31, 2015 9:41 AM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Now, I wish I had an answer of how to create a d.ts parser without using 100's of dev time hours. :) Mike, have you checked out Microsoft’s TypeScript compiler? It seems to be on GitHub at [1]. I’d guess that [2] is their parser/scanner. It looks like the scanning is done in TS itself which is probably why you couldn’t find a grammar. -Alex [1] https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript [2] https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/blob/270a149571b106dcfbbaee53897074 61e8fedcb9/src/compiler/scanner.ts
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On May 29, 2015 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Mike Some extra motivation for you, Mike. :) https://twitter.com/walpolea/status/604855031423107074
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
The native keyword might be useful for creating classes that provide APIs for JavaScript libraries: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/statements.html#native It's meant for APIs that are defined as native code in the runtime. I suspect that this is part of how playerglobal.swc is created. The documentation says that it cannot be used in your own code. However, I just did a quick test, and the compiler accepts it. The Flash runtime throws an error when you try to run the SWF, but for our purposes, it's just the compiler that matters. - Josh On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:02 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: On May 31, 2015 9:41 AM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, actually I am highly motivated right now. I know how much joy I had when getting back into it using Feathers. I think I have told you like 5 times in the last 3 months. :) Now, I wish I had an answer of how to create a d.ts parser without using 100's of dev time hours. :) Do you have an idea of how the input vs. output would look like? Are you planning on creating a d.as file which has all the class and function definitions? Perhaps we can start with hand coding a simple example? I can help with that. Thanks, Om Mike On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Josh Tynjala joshtynj...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2015 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Mike Some extra motivation for you, Mike. :) https://twitter.com/walpolea/status/604855031423107074
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On May 31, 2015 9:41 AM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, actually I am highly motivated right now. I know how much joy I had when getting back into it using Feathers. I think I have told you like 5 times in the last 3 months. :) Now, I wish I had an answer of how to create a d.ts parser without using 100's of dev time hours. :) Do you have an idea of how the input vs. output would look like? Are you planning on creating a d.as file which has all the class and function definitions? Perhaps we can start with hand coding a simple example? I can help with that. Thanks, Om Mike On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Josh Tynjala joshtynj...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2015 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Mike Some extra motivation for you, Mike. :) https://twitter.com/walpolea/status/604855031423107074
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On 5/31/15, 6:02 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: On May 31, 2015 9:41 AM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Now, I wish I had an answer of how to create a d.ts parser without using 100's of dev time hours. :) Mike, have you checked out Microsoft’s TypeScript compiler? It seems to be on GitHub at [1]. I’d guess that [2] is their parser/scanner. It looks like the scanning is done in TS itself which is probably why you couldn’t find a grammar. -Alex [1] https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript [2] https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/blob/270a149571b106dcfbbaee53897074 61e8fedcb9/src/compiler/scanner.ts
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Nice, actually I am highly motivated right now. I know how much joy I had when getting back into it using Feathers. I think I have told you like 5 times in the last 3 months. :) Now, I wish I had an answer of how to create a d.ts parser without using 100's of dev time hours. :) Mike On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Josh Tynjala joshtynj...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2015 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Mike Some extra motivation for you, Mike. :) https://twitter.com/walpolea/status/604855031423107074
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Alex, Well I have been tinkering today and have come to the conclusion it's easier to refactor FlexJS emitter into components and abstract static utilities etc. Since it works good, it's the best place to start. I have started to refactor already. I was thinking about a branch but I am running the tests and really what I am doing is reorganizing so I will be a ble to implement the JXEmitter with overrides of FllexJS instead of the sort of subclass hell we are in with FlexJS and Goog, I am going to fix this. So my plan is just commit, test push, commit, test, push. Thoughts? On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Please don’t worry. The root ‘data’ for the two swcs come from Adobe/Tamarin and W3C. A solution will be found. The issues Justin brings up don’t always turn out to be issues. -Alex On 5/29/15, 4:08 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I am putting this little project on hold until we figure out what is going on regarding how to create swcs for the builtin and dom, Justin is raising enough red flags that it worries me. I don't want to spend all this time and then we find out we are up a creek without these really important items. I will commence when a resolution is found. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, don't get me wrong, I like your framework with it's composition and if Om and I can get SVG working with your components I totally see that as a valid Flash/HTML route that I would contribute to. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/29/15, 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Peter and I are interested as well. Every time I start writing JS I go “Ugh” because I know I’m going to type a lot of silly mistakes. I hope to try it once I get out of BURM hell. Oh, did I mention? I’m in BURM hell ;-) -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
haha... no I mean test, commit then push. :) Mike On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, Well I have been tinkering today and have come to the conclusion it's easier to refactor FlexJS emitter into components and abstract static utilities etc. Since it works good, it's the best place to start. I have started to refactor already. I was thinking about a branch but I am running the tests and really what I am doing is reorganizing so I will be a ble to implement the JXEmitter with overrides of FllexJS instead of the sort of subclass hell we are in with FlexJS and Goog, I am going to fix this. So my plan is just commit, test push, commit, test, push. Thoughts? On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Please don’t worry. The root ‘data’ for the two swcs come from Adobe/Tamarin and W3C. A solution will be found. The issues Justin brings up don’t always turn out to be issues. -Alex On 5/29/15, 4:08 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I am putting this little project on hold until we figure out what is going on regarding how to create swcs for the builtin and dom, Justin is raising enough red flags that it worries me. I don't want to spend all this time and then we find out we are up a creek without these really important items. I will commence when a resolution is found. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, don't get me wrong, I like your framework with it's composition and if Om and I can get SVG working with your components I totally see that as a valid Flash/HTML route that I would contribute to. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/29/15, 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Peter and I are interested as well. Every time I start writing JS I go “Ugh” because I know I’m going to type a lot of silly mistakes. I hope to try it once I get out of BURM hell. Oh, did I mention? I’m in BURM hell ;-) -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Sounds ok to me Sent from my LG G3, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone -- Original message-- From: Michael Schmalle Date: Sat, May 30, 2015 1:42 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org; Subject:Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript haha... no I mean test, commit then push. :) Mike On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, Well I have been tinkering today and have come to the conclusion it's easier to refactor FlexJS emitter into components and abstract static utilities etc. Since it works good, it's the best place to start. I have started to refactor already. I was thinking about a branch but I am running the tests and really what I am doing is reorganizing so I will be a ble to implement the JXEmitter with overrides of FllexJS instead of the sort of subclass hell we are in with FlexJS and Goog, I am going to fix this. So my plan is just commit, test push, commit, test, push. Thoughts? On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Please don’t worry. The root ‘data’ for the two swcs come from Adobe/Tamarin and W3C. A solution will be found. The issues Justin brings up don’t always turn out to be issues. -Alex On 5/29/15, 4:08 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I am putting this little project on hold until we figure out what is going on regarding how to create swcs for the builtin and dom, Justin is raising enough red flags that it worries me. I don't want to spend all this time and then we find out we are up a creek without these really important items. I will commence when a resolution is found. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, don't get me wrong, I like your framework with it's composition and if Om and I can get SVG working with your components I totally see that as a valid Flash/HTML route that I would contribute to. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/29/15, 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Peter and I are interested as well. Every time I start writing JS I go “Ugh” because I know I’m going to type a lot of silly mistakes. I hope to try it once I get out of BURM hell. Oh, did I mention? I’m in BURM hell ;-) -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
You da man! Great stuff!
-Alex
On 5/29/15, 9:25 AM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
RE: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
This is pretty cool!
What happens when you run the AS version?
Thanks,
Om
On May 29, 2015 10:05 AM, Frédéric THOMAS webdoubl...@hotmail.com wrote:
Cool stuff, very promising :-)
Frédéric THOMAS
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:25:25 -0400
Subject: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross
compiling to vanilla Javascript
From: teotigraphix...@gmail.com
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
RE: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Cool stuff, very promising :-)
Frédéric THOMAS
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:25:25 -0400
Subject: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to
vanilla Javascript
From: teotigraphix...@gmail.com
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Please don’t worry. The root ‘data’ for the two swcs come from Adobe/Tamarin and W3C. A solution will be found. The issues Justin brings up don’t always turn out to be issues. -Alex On 5/29/15, 4:08 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I am putting this little project on hold until we figure out what is going on regarding how to create swcs for the builtin and dom, Justin is raising enough red flags that it worries me. I don't want to spend all this time and then we find out we are up a creek without these really important items. I will commence when a resolution is found. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, don't get me wrong, I like your framework with it's composition and if Om and I can get SVG working with your components I totally see that as a valid Flash/HTML route that I would contribute to. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/29/15, 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Peter and I are interested as well. Every time I start writing JS I go “Ugh” because I know I’m going to type a lot of silly mistakes. I hope to try it once I get out of BURM hell. Oh, did I mention? I’m in BURM hell ;-) -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
That's great!
- Josh
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Correct. It's been a dream of mine for years. Why? I don't know, it's fun. That's the best (and only?) reason. When my current project completes, in a few months time, I want me to have some fun again. Please don't kill VFJS in the mean time ;-) You wanna know the real reason, mainly Josh. If he can create a UI framework like his feathers in AS that transpiles to JS and I can use it for my mobile apps. I could see bridging the gap of his components into FlexJS's MXML/Application and I ... would ... be ... in ... heaven. I am NOT knocking all the work Alex etal are doing with FlexJS's uicomponents just that I have always programed UI with code and some MXML. It's the way I think and Josh's Feathers just clicked for me and I became 100% more productive with my mobile apps then in my 2 year stint with Java and opengl frameworks. Plus, I don't know and really don't want to learn all the fancy foot work of the JS ui frameworks( I would if I had to). Mike EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
The more I think about it, the more awesome it looks :-) Okay, so does code completion work with Window, document, body etc. elements? And, if we have a mechanism to consume d.ts files, we can pretty quickly add native AS3 support to libraries like jquery, d3, etc., right? Thanks, Om On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Correct. It's been a dream of mine for years. Why? I don't know, it's fun. That's the best (and only?) reason. When my current project completes, in a few months time, I want me to have some fun again. Please don't kill VFJS in the mean time ;-) You wanna know the real reason, mainly Josh. If he can create a UI framework like his feathers in AS that transpiles to JS and I can use it for my mobile apps. I could see bridging the gap of his components into FlexJS's MXML/Application and I ... would ... be ... in ... heaven. I am NOT knocking all the work Alex etal are doing with FlexJS's uicomponents just that I have always programed UI with code and some MXML. It's the way I think and Josh's Feathers just clicked for me and I became 100% more productive with my mobile apps then in my 2 year stint with Java and opengl frameworks. Plus, I don't know and really don't want to learn all the fancy foot work of the JS ui frameworks( I would if I had to). Mike EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Unless I'm mistaken, the idea is to use AS instead of JS to code for
the web. That would bring AS on par with the other 'higher level'
languages (CoffeeScript, TypeScript, Dart, and the rest: [1]) that
compile down to JS, using JS basically as the Assembly for the web.
EdB
1:
https://github.com/jashkenas/coffeescript/wiki/List-of-languages-that-compile-to-JS
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:51 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
This is pretty cool!
What happens when you run the AS version?
Thanks,
Om
On May 29, 2015 10:05 AM, Frédéric THOMAS webdoubl...@hotmail.com wrote:
Cool stuff, very promising :-)
Frédéric THOMAS
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:25:25 -0400
Subject: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross
compiling to vanilla Javascript
From: teotigraphix...@gmail.com
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
--
Ix Multimedia Software
Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht
T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Correct. It's been a dream of mine for years. Why? I don't know, it's fun. That's the best (and only?) reason. When my current project completes, in a few months time, I want me to have some fun again. Please don't kill VFJS in the mean time ;-) EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On 5/29/15, 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Peter and I are interested as well. Every time I start writing JS I go “Ugh” because I know I’m going to type a lot of silly mistakes. I hope to try it once I get out of BURM hell. Oh, did I mention? I’m in BURM hell ;-) -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On 5/29/15, 12:34 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: You wanna know the real reason, mainly Josh. If he can create a UI framework like his feathers in AS that transpiles to JS and I can use it for my mobile apps. I could see bridging the gap of his components into FlexJS's MXML/Application and I ... would ... be ... in ... heaven. I know Josh is quite far on MXMLC and Feathers, but I sure wish I could convince him to try to get Falcon/FalconJX working with Feathers and align the efforts. Then when he wraps up some JS framework to map to Feathers it will all work in this tool chain. And now he can do his wrapping by writing AS and have it transpile to JS. I am NOT knocking all the work Alex etal are doing with FlexJS's uicomponents just that I have always programed UI with code and some MXML. It's the way I think and Josh's Feathers just clicked for me and I became 100% more productive with my mobile apps then in my 2 year stint with Java and opengl frameworks. I don’t see it as a competition. I think we want to make sure that the tool chain is agnostic about the component sets involved. I am building out a UI component set and SWF tooling that: 1) I think will give you faster edit/compile/test cycles 2) Leverages the runtime’s verifier that should help you when your code becomes more dynamic. 3) Generates a SWF that is potentially usable in older browsers. 3) Should provide re-usable pieces for mocking or emulating these other JS UI component sets in SWF form. If it turns out that folks don’t need these pieces, that will be a bit of a bummer, but I’m betting on #2 being important as your apps get bigger and bigger and more dynamic. -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:51 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com
wrote:
This is pretty cool!
What happens when you run the AS version?
Nothing. :) The HTMLCoreLib is just class stubs for code completion and
documentation asdocs. (it could be something if it was implemented I guess.)
Mike
Thanks,
Om
On May 29, 2015 10:05 AM, Frédéric THOMAS webdoubl...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Cool stuff, very promising :-)
Frédéric THOMAS
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:25:25 -0400
Subject: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross
compiling to vanilla Javascript
From: teotigraphix...@gmail.com
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I
have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global
in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, the idea is to use AS instead of JS to code for
the web. That would bring AS on par with the other 'higher level'
languages (CoffeeScript, TypeScript, Dart, and the rest: [1]) that
compile down to JS, using JS basically as the Assembly for the web.
EdB
Correct. It's been a dream of mine for years. Why? I don't know, it's fun.
:) Also, like Josj could implement Feathers like UI frameworks in AS that
target Canvas or WebGL.
Mike
1:
https://github.com/jashkenas/coffeescript/wiki/List-of-languages-that-compile-to-JS
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:51 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
This is pretty cool!
What happens when you run the AS version?
Thanks,
Om
On May 29, 2015 10:05 AM, Frédéric THOMAS webdoubl...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Cool stuff, very promising :-)
Frédéric THOMAS
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:25:25 -0400
Subject: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross
compiling to vanilla Javascript
From: teotigraphix...@gmail.com
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Hi,
Well using some of the 100's of hours I had into development of a
different compiler, out of the shear joy of reusing time I lived I
have
the following compiling with FalconJX and the JXEmitter.
I have the builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc loaded in FalconJX when
compiling, no playerglobal.swc.
I also have full code completion in IntelliJ using no SDK just the
builtin.swc and HTMLCoreLib.swc.
Window.document and Window. automatically get boiled down into global
in
the emitter, pretty neat, it just majically works on the JS side.
Not bad for a days work. :)
--
Using this html;
--
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
script type=text/javascript src=Greeter.js/script
/head
body
script type=text/javascript
Greeter.start();
/script
/body
/html
*We get the screenshot of;*
http://snag.gy/Mtiln.jpg
--
Greeter.as
--
package
{
public class Greeter
{
public var greeting:String;
public function Greeter(greeting:String)
{
this.greeting = greeting;
}
public function greet():String
{
return Hello, + greeting;
}
public static function start():void
{
var greeter:Greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button:Element = Window.document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello;
button.onclick = function ():void
{
Window.alert(greeter.greet());
};
Window.document.body.appendChild(button);
}
}
}
*Cross compiled to Javascript;*
--
Greeter.js
--
function Greeter(greeting) {
this.greeting = greeting;
}
Greeter.prototype.greet = function() {
return Hello, + this.greeting;
};
Greeter.start = function() {
var greeter = new Greeter(how are you FalconJX?);
var button = document.createElement(button);
button.textContent = Say Hello!;
button.onclick = function() {
alert(greeter.greet());
};
document.body.appendChild(button);
};
Mike
--
Ix Multimedia Software
Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht
T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:47 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: The more I think about it, the more awesome it looks :-) It is awesome. I sat down this morning and said, I am going to get this to work. So I went to TypeScript playground and grabbed their HelloWorld code. I said I will write it an AS and get it to cross compile today. I started on the emitter yesterday, I used a lot of my code from Randori, took out the cruft. In about 4 hours I got what you see above. The only thing I haven't written is the ITarget for the actual compiler, I am using the testing hooks right now. Okay, so does code completion work with Window, document, body etc. elements? Oh yeah. :) And it has asdocs. Screenshot; http://snag.gy/dheAK.jpg And, if we have a mechanism to consume d.ts files, we can pretty quickly add native AS3 support to libraries like jquery, d3, etc., right? Yes, see the previous thread I wrote today about TypeScript def files. Mike Thanks, Om On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Correct. It's been a dream of mine for years. Why? I don't know, it's fun. That's the best (and only?) reason. When my current project completes, in a few months time, I want me to have some fun again. Please don't kill VFJS in the mean time ;-) You wanna know the real reason, mainly Josh. If he can create a UI framework like his feathers in AS that transpiles to JS and I can use it for my mobile apps. I could see bridging the gap of his components into FlexJS's MXML/Application and I ... would ... be ... in ... heaven. I am NOT knocking all the work Alex etal are doing with FlexJS's uicomponents just that I have always programed UI with code and some MXML. It's the way I think and Josh's Feathers just clicked for me and I became 100% more productive with my mobile apps then in my 2 year stint with Java and opengl frameworks. Plus, I don't know and really don't want to learn all the fancy foot work of the JS ui frameworks( I would if I had to). Mike EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Yeah, well right now it's to early to say anything about the future. All I am trying to do is give a piece that I feel is missing from the tool chain and that is something that has AS producing JS. Maybe people will use it, maybe not. I figure I have nothing to loose and I can possibly gain from a gamble. The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/29/15, 12:34 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: You wanna know the real reason, mainly Josh. If he can create a UI framework like his feathers in AS that transpiles to JS and I can use it for my mobile apps. I could see bridging the gap of his components into FlexJS's MXML/Application and I ... would ... be ... in ... heaven. I know Josh is quite far on MXMLC and Feathers, but I sure wish I could convince him to try to get Falcon/FalconJX working with Feathers and align the efforts. Then when he wraps up some JS framework to map to Feathers it will all work in this tool chain. And now he can do his wrapping by writing AS and have it transpile to JS. I am NOT knocking all the work Alex etal are doing with FlexJS's uicomponents just that I have always programed UI with code and some MXML. It's the way I think and Josh's Feathers just clicked for me and I became 100% more productive with my mobile apps then in my 2 year stint with Java and opengl frameworks. I don’t see it as a competition. I think we want to make sure that the tool chain is agnostic about the component sets involved. I am building out a UI component set and SWF tooling that: 1) I think will give you faster edit/compile/test cycles 2) Leverages the runtime’s verifier that should help you when your code becomes more dynamic. 3) Generates a SWF that is potentially usable in older browsers. 3) Should provide re-usable pieces for mocking or emulating these other JS UI component sets in SWF form. If it turns out that folks don’t need these pieces, that will be a bit of a bummer, but I’m betting on #2 being important as your apps get bigger and bigger and more dynamic. -Alex
Re: [FalconJX JXEmitter] Hello Greeter! working :: AS cross compiling to vanilla Javascript
Alex, don't get me wrong, I like your framework with it's composition and if Om and I can get SVG working with your components I totally see that as a valid Flash/HTML route that I would contribute to. Mike On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 5/29/15, 1:36 PM, Michael Schmalle teotigraphix...@gmail.com wrote: The fact Josh is still highly interested in ActionScript leads me to believe if we offer up real solutions to former AS devs, they might actually be overjoyed to see and use it because they know we are not trying to solve world hunger here, just offer tooling that is mature. Peter and I are interested as well. Every time I start writing JS I go “Ugh” because I know I’m going to type a lot of silly mistakes. I hope to try it once I get out of BURM hell. Oh, did I mention? I’m in BURM hell ;-) -Alex
