[OT] Aligning commercial interests with Apache Flex (was) RE: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Guthmann, Scott]

> Hi,
> - ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate Edition 
> only [1]
> - 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask 
> sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
> - members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can apply for 
> a free license [3]
> - IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699
> --
> Alexander Doroshko
> IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead

IMO, this high volume list is not the best way to approach developers with 
offers for a new IDE. There are several ways I can think of that would help 
this project while also aligning with your commercial interests / offers, 
though.

I think Apache Flex needs evangelism.

I would suggest contacting each Apache Flex UGM listed here [1] and offer to 
send or have one of your JetBrains evangelists present training on the use of 
your IDE to each of the Apache Flex User groups globally. I am the UGM for 
RIA5280 & I would love to host your presenter. The topic is up to you - but 
consider just explaining to my developers how to use your IDE with Apache Flex 
4.9.

Many involved in the project would like to be able to show commercial 
applications (reference customers) who used the Apache Flex 4.9 SDK to develop 
their applications. We would like to show applications built with AF4.9 here 
[2]. IMO, there is no harm if your team helped create these case studies which 
promote that the application was built using the JetBrains IDE ItelliJ, too.

We know we also lack documentation that shows very small code snippets and 
examples of how each feature / command in the SDK is used. This type of full 
featured toolkit documentation / training would really help new developers and 
technologists to feel comfortable starting a new project in Apache Flex. If you 
have an interest, this is also a way for your team to take screen clips while 
coding using the IntelliJ IDE and describe how each part of the SDK is used. 
Here is a recent message on this topic [3]. Again, this reference documentation 
could showcase the IntelliJ IDE and also help complete examples for each part 
of the ASDOCS documentation.

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/FLEX/user-groups.html
[2] http://flex.apache.org/
[3] http://markmail.org/thread/ttstwwnhrgkzjehd

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Avi Kessner]

Well, bad formatting aside, (it's been a while since I blogged)  I put up a
blog post which can be seen here:

http://inspiredflash.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/finally-some-tools-to-go-from.html

If anyone would like me to alter any of the post, or found I didn't
properly credit someone, please let me know.

brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:

> I'm afraid there's not. Looks like I need to make a blog post summarizing
> info for IntelliJ IDEA newcomers.
>
>
> On 12.02.2013 19:12, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexander,
>>
>> Very good set of links, is there a page somewhere where those
>> informations are listed, if it's the case I would like to add it to my
>> favorites.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Fred
>>
>> -Message d'origine----- From: Alexander Doroshko
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains
>>
>> Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse
>> and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page
>> 'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic
>> Concepts' [2].
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/**webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-**
>> eclipse-terminology.html<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-eclipse-terminology.html>
>> [2] 
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/**webhelp/basic-concepts.html<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/basic-concepts.html>
>>
>> On 12.02.2013 17:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> - ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate
>>> Edition only [1]
>>> - 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask
>>> sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
>>> - members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can
>>> apply for a free license [3]
>>> - IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699
>>>
>>> Some documentation resources:
>>> - Feature overview [4]
>>> - Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines |
>>> ActionScript and Flex, also available online [5]
>>> - More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains TV
>>> [6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
>>> - Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for Android
>>> [7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]
>>> - A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet
>>>
>>> You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import Project
>>> |  or New Project | Flash Module.
>>>
>>> Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and
>>> feature requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Frédéric THOMAS]

Yeah Nick,

I thought a link could fit into the Designer & Developer Tools page of the 
wiki maybe as well with a screenshot :)


-Fred

-Message d'origine- 
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:56 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

I'd love to host this information on either our Wiki or website too.

-Nick

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:


Two blog posts would definitely be better than one :)


On 12.02.2013 19:37, Avi Kessner wrote:


A blog post would be great, I was about to make one myself.

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Nicholas Kwiatkowski]

I'd love to host this information on either our Wiki or website too.

-Nick

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:

> Two blog posts would definitely be better than one :)
>
>
> On 12.02.2013 19:37, Avi Kessner wrote:
>
>> A blog post would be great, I was about to make one myself.
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alexander Doroshko]

Two blog posts would definitely be better than one :)

On 12.02.2013 19:37, Avi Kessner wrote:

A blog post would be great, I was about to make one myself.

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Avi Kessner]

A blog post would be great, I was about to make one myself.

brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:

> I'm afraid there's not. Looks like I need to make a blog post summarizing
> info for IntelliJ IDEA newcomers.
>
>
> On 12.02.2013 19:12, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexander,
>>
>> Very good set of links, is there a page somewhere where those
>> informations are listed, if it's the case I would like to add it to my
>> favorites.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Fred
>>
>> -Message d'origine- From: Alexander Doroshko
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains
>>
>> Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse
>> and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page
>> 'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic
>> Concepts' [2].
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/**webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-**
>> eclipse-terminology.html<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-eclipse-terminology.html>
>> [2] 
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/**webhelp/basic-concepts.html<http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/basic-concepts.html>
>>
>> On 12.02.2013 17:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> - ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate
>>> Edition only [1]
>>> - 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask
>>> sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
>>> - members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can
>>> apply for a free license [3]
>>> - IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699
>>>
>>> Some documentation resources:
>>> - Feature overview [4]
>>> - Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines |
>>> ActionScript and Flex, also available online [5]
>>> - More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains TV
>>> [6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
>>> - Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for Android
>>> [7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]
>>> - A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet
>>>
>>> You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import Project
>>> |  or New Project | Flash Module.
>>>
>>> Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and
>>> feature requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alexander Doroshko]

I'm afraid there's not. Looks like I need to make a blog post 
summarizing info for IntelliJ IDEA newcomers.


On 12.02.2013 19:12, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:

Hi Alexander,

Very good set of links, is there a page somewhere where those 
informations are listed, if it's the case I would like to add it to my 
favorites.


Thanks,
-Fred

-Message d'origine- From: Alexander Doroshko
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse
and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page
'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic
Concepts' [2].

[1]
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-eclipse-terminology.html 


[2] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/basic-concepts.html

On 12.02.2013 17:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote:

Hi,
- ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate 
Edition only [1]
- 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can 
ask sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
- members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can 
apply for a free license [3]
- IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is 
$699


Some documentation resources:
- Feature overview [4]
- Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines | 
ActionScript and Flex, also available online [5]
- More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains 
TV [6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
- Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for 
Android [7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]

- A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet

You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import 
Project |  or New Project | Flash 
Module.


Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and 
feature requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Frédéric THOMAS]

Hi Alexander,

Very good set of links, is there a page somewhere where those informations 
are listed, if it's the case I would like to add it to my favorites.


Thanks,
-Fred

-Message d'origine- 
From: Alexander Doroshko

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse
and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page
'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic
Concepts' [2].

[1]
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-eclipse-terminology.html
[2] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/basic-concepts.html

On 12.02.2013 17:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote:

Hi,
- ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate Edition 
only [1]
- 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask 
sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
- members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can apply 
for a free license [3]

- IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699

Some documentation resources:
- Feature overview [4]
- Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines | ActionScript 
and Flex, also available online [5]
- More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains TV 
[6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
- Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for Android 
[7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]

- A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet

You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import Project | 
 or New Project | Flash Module.


Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and feature 
requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alexander Doroshko]

Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse 
and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page 
'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic 
Concepts' [2].


[1] 
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-eclipse-terminology.html

[2] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/basic-concepts.html

On 12.02.2013 17:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote:

Hi,
- ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate 
Edition only [1]
- 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can 
ask sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
- members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can 
apply for a free license [3]

- IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699

Some documentation resources:
- Feature overview [4]
- Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines | 
ActionScript and Flex, also available online [5]
- More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains 
TV [6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
- Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for Android 
[7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]

- A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet

You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import 
Project |  or New Project | Flash Module.


Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and 
feature requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Lee Burrows]

That info could tip me over to IDEA - was thinking i needed commercial 
license but looks like personal is ok for me



On 12/02/2013 13:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote:

Hi,
- ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate 
Edition only [1]
- 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can 
ask sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
- members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can 
apply for a free license [3]

- IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699

Some documentation resources:
- Feature overview [4]
- Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines | 
ActionScript and Flex, also available online [5]
- More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains 
TV [6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
- Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for Android 
[7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]

- A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet

You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import 
Project |  or New Project | Flash Module.


Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and 
feature requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.





--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alexander Doroshko]

Hi,
- ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate 
Edition only [1]
- 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask 
sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period.
- members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can 
apply for a free license [3]

- IntelliJ IDEA personal license costs $199 whereas Flash Builder is $699

Some documentation resources:
- Feature overview [4]
- Embedded help: Language and Framework-Specific Guidelines | 
ActionScript and Flex, also available online [5]
- More than 50 short video screencasts by John Lindquist at JetBrains TV 
[6] (start from 'IntelliJ IDEA 11.1 Flex Features')
- Two articles at JetBrains wiki: quick start with AIR app for Android 
[7], Flexmojos-driven workflow [8]

- A lot of 3rd party blog posts and tutorials in the Internet

You can try to start even without looking at docs: either Import Project 
|  or New Project | Flash Module.


Feedback and any questions are welcome at the forum [9], bugs and 
feature requests - in the issue tracker [10]. Or just email me directly.


--
Alexander Doroshko
IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

[1] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html
[2] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html
[3] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp
[4] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/flex_ide.html
[5] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/actionscript-flex-and-air.html
[6] http://tv.jetbrains.net/tags/john-lindquist
[7] 
http://wiki.jetbrains.net/intellij/Developing,_running_and_packaging_AIR_mobile_applications_for_Android
[8] 
http://wiki.jetbrains.net/intellij/Working_with_Flexmojos_projects_in_IntelliJ_IDEA

[9] http://devnet.jetbrains.net/community/idea/ideacommunity
[10] http://youtrack.jetbrains.net

On 12.02.2013 16:32, Jagan Langa Sami Durai wrote:

I thought to try the IDEA for my flex development, after seeing a lot of
discussions in this group and in linkedlin about the comparison between
IDEA and FB. I'm using FB for past 5 years (From FB3 to FB4.7). I really
don't know where to start in IDEA. I downloaded the community version and
installed it. after that I don't see any options to create a flex project.
or options to add a plugin to support flex project.

My Doubts are,
1. Can I create flex project in community version..?
2. Is there a trial version available for flex development ?
3. When compared to the cost of the FB4.7 and IDEA seems equal. How do you
guys(IDEA team) believe that you can attract the developers and most
importantly the Management peoples or the clients who is familiar
(almost addicted) with FB?
4. I don't see any dedicated page/product for "IDEA for Flex" in the IDEA
product page, do i really missed that page in their products page..?

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Nicholas Kwiatkowski]

Reply Inline:

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Jagan Langa Sami Durai  wrote:

> I thought to try the IDEA for my flex development, after seeing a lot of
> discussions in this group and in linkedlin about the comparison between
> IDEA and FB. I'm using FB for past 5 years (From FB3 to FB4.7). I really
> don't know where to start in IDEA. I downloaded the community version and
> installed it. after that I don't see any options to create a flex project.
> or options to add a plugin to support flex project.
>
> My Doubts are,
> 1. Can I create flex project in community version..?
>

No.  Their plugin requires the "IDEA Ultimate" version.


> 2. Is there a trial version available for flex development ?
>

A 30 day trial is available.  The trial is the fully capable version, time
limited at 30 days.


> 3. When compared to the cost of the FB4.7 and IDEA seems equal. How do you
> guys(IDEA team) believe that you can attract the developers and most
> importantly the Management peoples or the clients who is familiar
> (almost addicted) with FB?
>

Use it for 30 days and see if you can stand to run FB again.  I can't.  The
only reason why I was going back to FB for a while was for the design view
(sometimes it is easier to lay things out on the the screen instead of
count pixels before you do the coding).  Since DV is dead and gone, there
was no reason to keep FB around other than to test things for the SDK.


> 4. I don't see any dedicated page/product for "IDEA for Flex" in the IDEA
> product page, do i really missed that page in their products page..?
>
>
They support hundreds of languages and plugins.  Flex isn't as popular as
it was, but it is VERY well supported.  Because the structure is close to
Java and others, they are able to do some really nice parsing on your code
which makes it 20 steps ahead of the other guys.  Oh, and its not based on
Eclipse... So there's that too.



> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Charles Monteiro
> wrote:
>
> > that was certainly the case for me, the only thing that FB has over IDEA
> in
> > my opinion is the Designer and that's gone.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Avi Kessner  wrote:
> >
> > > I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't
> found
> > > the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From
> everything
> > I
> > > hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
> > >
> > > brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> > > and the number 47
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
> > > alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm the author of that blog post.
> > > > Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not
> > read
> > > > this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several
> > > thousand
> > > > of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send anonymous
> > usage
> > > > statistics to JetBrains and they run/debug Flash apps hundreds of
> > > thousands
> > > > times a month.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately we do not know percentage of IntelliJ IDEA users who
> > agree
> > > > to send anonymous statistics. If it is 10% then we have tens of
> > thousands
> > > > of Flash developers, if it is 1% - there are hundreds of thousands of
> > > them
> > > > (which I doubt :) ). So, assuming that this percentage is constant,
> we
> > > can
> > > > only analyze trends.
> > > >
> > > > Just checked statistics for January 2013 - there's incredible 35%
> > growth
> > > > compared to December 2012!
> > > >
> > > > According to the feedback my personal opinion is that most of new
> users
> > > > are not technology newbies, but they are looking for an alternative
> > IDE.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alexander Doroshko
> > > > IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
> > > > http://www.jetbrains.com
> > > > "Develop with pleasure!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 09.01.2013 22:06, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They
> could
> > be
> > > >> talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative
> nancy
> > > but
> > > >> I wonder what the actual numbers are.
> > > >>
> > > >> -omar
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the
> > > beginning
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> last year...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/**idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-**doing/<
> > > http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a
> sign
> > > that
> > > >>> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we
> > are
> > > >>> actually registering on their map ;)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package
> downloads?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Nick
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > www.monteirosfusion.com

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Cosma Colanicchia]

Community doesn't include Flex support, you need the Ultimate, see [1] for
feature comparison.
Ultimate edition comes with 30-days free trial, see [2].

[1] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html
[2] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html



2013/2/12 Jagan Langa Sami Durai 

> I thought to try the IDEA for my flex development, after seeing a lot of
> discussions in this group and in linkedlin about the comparison between
> IDEA and FB. I'm using FB for past 5 years (From FB3 to FB4.7). I really
> don't know where to start in IDEA. I downloaded the community version and
> installed it. after that I don't see any options to create a flex project.
> or options to add a plugin to support flex project.
>
> My Doubts are,
> 1. Can I create flex project in community version..?
> 2. Is there a trial version available for flex development ?
> 3. When compared to the cost of the FB4.7 and IDEA seems equal. How do you
> guys(IDEA team) believe that you can attract the developers and most
> importantly the Management peoples or the clients who is familiar
> (almost addicted) with FB?
> 4. I don't see any dedicated page/product for "IDEA for Flex" in the IDEA
> product page, do i really missed that page in their products page..?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Charles Monteiro
> wrote:
>
> > that was certainly the case for me, the only thing that FB has over IDEA
> in
> > my opinion is the Designer and that's gone.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Avi Kessner  wrote:
> >
> > > I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't
> found
> > > the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From
> everything
> > I
> > > hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
> > >
> > > brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> > > and the number 47
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
> > > alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm the author of that blog post.
> > > > Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not
> > read
> > > > this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several
> > > thousand
> > > > of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send anonymous
> > usage
> > > > statistics to JetBrains and they run/debug Flash apps hundreds of
> > > thousands
> > > > times a month.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately we do not know percentage of IntelliJ IDEA users who
> > agree
> > > > to send anonymous statistics. If it is 10% then we have tens of
> > thousands
> > > > of Flash developers, if it is 1% - there are hundreds of thousands of
> > > them
> > > > (which I doubt :) ). So, assuming that this percentage is constant,
> we
> > > can
> > > > only analyze trends.
> > > >
> > > > Just checked statistics for January 2013 - there's incredible 35%
> > growth
> > > > compared to December 2012!
> > > >
> > > > According to the feedback my personal opinion is that most of new
> users
> > > > are not technology newbies, but they are looking for an alternative
> > IDE.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alexander Doroshko
> > > > IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
> > > > http://www.jetbrains.com
> > > > "Develop with pleasure!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 09.01.2013 22:06, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They
> could
> > be
> > > >> talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative
> nancy
> > > but
> > > >> I wonder what the actual numbers are.
> > > >>
> > > >> -omar
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the
> > > beginning
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> last year...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/**idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-**doing/<
> > > http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a
> sign
> > > that
> > > >>> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we
> > are
> > > >>> actually registering on their map ;)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package
> downloads?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Nick
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > > sent from the road
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *
> Regards,
> S. Jagan  Langa* *|* *Team Lead*
> *Sybrant Technologies Pvt Ltd*
> *
> *
> ‘Shriram The Gateway (SEZ)’, Block A1,
> 3rd Floor, 16 GST Road, Perungalathur,
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>
> Mobile: +91 98430 50897
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>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Jagan Langa Sami Durai]

I thought to try the IDEA for my flex development, after seeing a lot of
discussions in this group and in linkedlin about the comparison between
IDEA and FB. I'm using FB for past 5 years (From FB3 to FB4.7). I really
don't know where to start in IDEA. I downloaded the community version and
installed it. after that I don't see any options to create a flex project.
or options to add a plugin to support flex project.

My Doubts are,
1. Can I create flex project in community version..?
2. Is there a trial version available for flex development ?
3. When compared to the cost of the FB4.7 and IDEA seems equal. How do you
guys(IDEA team) believe that you can attract the developers and most
importantly the Management peoples or the clients who is familiar
(almost addicted) with FB?
4. I don't see any dedicated page/product for "IDEA for Flex" in the IDEA
product page, do i really missed that page in their products page..?


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Charles Monteiro
wrote:

> that was certainly the case for me, the only thing that FB has over IDEA in
> my opinion is the Designer and that's gone.
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Avi Kessner  wrote:
>
> > I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
> > the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything
> I
> > hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
> >
> > brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> > and the number 47
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
> > alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm the author of that blog post.
> > > Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not
> read
> > > this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several
> > thousand
> > > of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send anonymous
> usage
> > > statistics to JetBrains and they run/debug Flash apps hundreds of
> > thousands
> > > times a month.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately we do not know percentage of IntelliJ IDEA users who
> agree
> > > to send anonymous statistics. If it is 10% then we have tens of
> thousands
> > > of Flash developers, if it is 1% - there are hundreds of thousands of
> > them
> > > (which I doubt :) ). So, assuming that this percentage is constant, we
> > can
> > > only analyze trends.
> > >
> > > Just checked statistics for January 2013 - there's incredible 35%
> growth
> > > compared to December 2012!
> > >
> > > According to the feedback my personal opinion is that most of new users
> > > are not technology newbies, but they are looking for an alternative
> IDE.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexander Doroshko
> > > IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
> > >
> > >
> > > On 09.01.2013 22:06, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
> > >
> > >> It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could
> be
> > >> talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy
> > but
> > >> I wonder what the actual numbers are.
> > >>
> > >> -omar
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the
> > beginning
> > >>> of
> > >>> last year...
> > >>>
> > >>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/**idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-**doing/<
> > http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/>
> > >>>
> > >>> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign
> > that
> > >>> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we
> are
> > >>> actually registering on their map ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
> > >>>
> > >>> -Nick
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Charles A. Monteiro
> > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > sent from the road
> >
>



-- 
*
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*Sybrant Technologies Pvt Ltd*
*
*
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Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Charles Monteiro]

that was certainly the case for me, the only thing that FB has over IDEA in
my opinion is the Designer and that's gone.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Avi Kessner  wrote:

> I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
> the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything I
> hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
>
> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> and the number 47
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
> alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm the author of that blog post.
> > Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not read
> > this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several
> thousand
> > of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send anonymous usage
> > statistics to JetBrains and they run/debug Flash apps hundreds of
> thousands
> > times a month.
> >
> > Unfortunately we do not know percentage of IntelliJ IDEA users who agree
> > to send anonymous statistics. If it is 10% then we have tens of thousands
> > of Flash developers, if it is 1% - there are hundreds of thousands of
> them
> > (which I doubt :) ). So, assuming that this percentage is constant, we
> can
> > only analyze trends.
> >
> > Just checked statistics for January 2013 - there's incredible 35% growth
> > compared to December 2012!
> >
> > According to the feedback my personal opinion is that most of new users
> > are not technology newbies, but they are looking for an alternative IDE.
> >
> > --
> > Alexander Doroshko
> > IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
> > http://www.jetbrains.com
> > "Develop with pleasure!"
> >
> >
> > On 09.01.2013 22:06, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
> >
> >> It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be
> >> talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy
> but
> >> I wonder what the actual numbers are.
> >>
> >> -omar
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>
> >>  They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the
> beginning
> >>> of
> >>> last year...
> >>>
> >>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/**idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-**doing/<
> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/>
> >>>
> >>> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign
> that
> >>> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
> >>> actually registering on their map ;)
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
> >>>
> >>> -Nick
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
> --
> Charles A. Monteiro
> www.monteirosfusion.com
> sent from the road
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Maxime Cowez]

a workaround in a matter of minutes.

(sorry, hit the send button while typing the previous mail)

Max


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Maxime Cowez  wrote:

> @Avi It took me about a week to get my productiveness back to the level it
> was when I used FB. After that it only kept going up :)
> Incidentally, one of the many advantages of IntelliJ is the help you can
> get from people like Alexander (as he just proved).
> As an example, I just recently filed this bug:
> http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-100427. Alexander found me a
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
> alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:
>
>> Feel free to ping me for any kind of assistance and for pushing your
>> favorite bugs/features that you want to be fixed/implemented.
>>
>> Alexander
>>
>>
>> On 08.02.2013 16:13, Avi Kessner wrote:
>>
>>> I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
>>> the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything
>>> I
>>> hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Maxime Cowez]

@Avi It took me about a week to get my productiveness back to the level it
was when I used FB. After that it only kept going up :)
Incidentally, one of the many advantages of IntelliJ is the help you can
get from people like Alexander (as he just proved).
As an example, I just recently filed this bug:
http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-100427. Alexander found me a


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:

> Feel free to ping me for any kind of assistance and for pushing your
> favorite bugs/features that you want to be fixed/implemented.
>
> Alexander
>
>
> On 08.02.2013 16:13, Avi Kessner wrote:
>
>> I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
>> the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything I
>> hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Nicholas Kwiatkowski]

Thanks for your support.  I'm one of those who use it every day and in all
honesty, since I've started using it about a year ago, there are very few
bugs or issues I run across that I'd even be willing to report :)  Your
team has been extremely responsive to getting those issues fixed and making
the features work well.

-Nick

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:

> Feel free to ping me for any kind of assistance and for pushing your
> favorite bugs/features that you want to be fixed/implemented.
>
> Alexander
>
>
> On 08.02.2013 16:13, Avi Kessner wrote:
>
>> I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
>> the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything I
>> hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alexander Doroshko]

Feel free to ping me for any kind of assistance and for pushing your 
favorite bugs/features that you want to be fixed/implemented.


Alexander

On 08.02.2013 16:13, Avi Kessner wrote:

I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything I
hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Avi Kessner]

I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found
the time to wrap my head around the different workflow.  From everything I
hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE

brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alexander Doroshko <
alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm the author of that blog post.
> Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not read
> this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several thousand
> of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send anonymous usage
> statistics to JetBrains and they run/debug Flash apps hundreds of thousands
> times a month.
>
> Unfortunately we do not know percentage of IntelliJ IDEA users who agree
> to send anonymous statistics. If it is 10% then we have tens of thousands
> of Flash developers, if it is 1% - there are hundreds of thousands of them
> (which I doubt :) ). So, assuming that this percentage is constant, we can
> only analyze trends.
>
> Just checked statistics for January 2013 - there's incredible 35% growth
> compared to December 2012!
>
> According to the feedback my personal opinion is that most of new users
> are not technology newbies, but they are looking for an alternative IDE.
>
> --
> Alexander Doroshko
> IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
> http://www.jetbrains.com
> "Develop with pleasure!"
>
>
> On 09.01.2013 22:06, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
>
>> It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be
>> talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy but
>> I wonder what the actual numbers are.
>>
>> -omar
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>
>>  They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning
>>> of
>>> last year...
>>>
>>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/**idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-**doing/
>>>
>>> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
>>> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
>>> actually registering on their map ;)
>>>
>>> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alexander Doroshko]

Hi,
I'm the author of that blog post.
Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not read 
this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several 
thousand of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send 
anonymous usage statistics to JetBrains and they run/debug Flash apps 
hundreds of thousands times a month.


Unfortunately we do not know percentage of IntelliJ IDEA users who agree 
to send anonymous statistics. If it is 10% then we have tens of 
thousands of Flash developers, if it is 1% - there are hundreds of 
thousands of them (which I doubt :) ). So, assuming that this percentage 
is constant, we can only analyze trends.


Just checked statistics for January 2013 - there's incredible 35% growth 
compared to December 2012!


According to the feedback my personal opinion is that most of new users 
are not technology newbies, but they are looking for an alternative IDE.


--
Alexander Doroshko
IntelliJ IDEA Flash Team Lead
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

On 09.01.2013 22:06, Omar Gonzalez wrote:

It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be
talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy but
I wonder what the actual numbers are.

-omar

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:


They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of
last year...

http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/

It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
actually registering on their map ;)

Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?

-Nick

RE: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Kessler CTR Mark J]

Does GIT show a user count or activity data?  Could gather some data from that 
on the source code at least.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apa...@teotigraphix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 13:09
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

We probably could ask them somehow off list since this project could  
be a huge boost of revenue for them when it turns the corner. Seeing  
as the compiler is opensource, I can see major benefits from them  
embracing Apache Flex, which in my opinion they already have.

Mike

Quoting Omar Gonzalez :

> It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be
> talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy but
> I wonder what the actual numbers are.
>
> -omar
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
>> They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of
>> last year...
>>
>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/
>>
>> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
>> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
>> actually registering on their map ;)
>>
>> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>

-- 
Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
http://www.teotigraphix.com
http://blog.teotigraphix.com

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Michael Schmalle]

We probably could ask them somehow off list since this project could  
be a huge boost of revenue for them when it turns the corner. Seeing  
as the compiler is opensource, I can see major benefits from them  
embracing Apache Flex, which in my opinion they already have.


Mike

Quoting Omar Gonzalez :


It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be
talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy but
I wonder what the actual numbers are.

-omar

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:


They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of
last year...

http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/

It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
actually registering on their map ;)

Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?

-Nick





--
Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
http://www.teotigraphix.com
http://blog.teotigraphix.com

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Omar Gonzalez]

It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be
talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy but
I wonder what the actual numbers are.

-omar

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:

> They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of
> last year...
>
> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/
>
> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
> actually registering on their map ;)
>
> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
>
> -Nick
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alex Harui]

On 1/9/13 8:12 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski"  wrote:

> I don't think the CGI has write permissions to the disk (and I don't think
> my perl kung-fu is good enough to make a DB connection to -- somewhere?).
See: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#stats

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Nicholas Kwiatkowski]

I don't think the CGI has write permissions to the disk (and I don't think
my perl kung-fu is good enough to make a DB connection to -- somewhere?).

I can't believe that none of the projects are tracking downloads...

-Nick

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Alex Harui  wrote:

>
>
>
> On 1/9/13 5:12 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski"  wrote:
>
> > True -- but we do tunnel all of our downloads through the mirror.cgi,
> which
> > then refers to the mirrors.  It wouldn't be complete (some people may
> > download directly from the mirrors), but it would be a fun stat to see
> how
> > we are doing as a community.
> >
> Last time I asked, I think the answer was that Apache does not track any
> stats on page hits.  Since we generally run a cgi for the downloads, how
> hard would it be to add one of those page hit counters to it?
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Alex Harui]

On 1/9/13 5:12 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski"  wrote:

> True -- but we do tunnel all of our downloads through the mirror.cgi, which
> then refers to the mirrors.  It wouldn't be complete (some people may
> download directly from the mirrors), but it would be a fun stat to see how
> we are doing as a community.
> 
Last time I asked, I think the answer was that Apache does not track any
stats on page hits.  Since we generally run a cgi for the downloads, how
hard would it be to add one of those page hit counters to it?

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Nicholas Kwiatkowski]

True -- but we do tunnel all of our downloads through the mirror.cgi, which
then refers to the mirrors.  It wouldn't be complete (some people may
download directly from the mirrors), but it would be a fun stat to see how
we are doing as a community.

-Nick

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski 
> wrote:
> > ...Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package
> downloads?...
>
> I don't know, but that wouldn't be very relevant anyway as downloads
> are mirrored outside of apache.org.
>
> -Bertrand
>

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski  wrote:
> ...Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?...

I don't know, but that wouldn't be very relevant anyway as downloads
are mirrored outside of apache.org.

-Bertrand

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Сергей aSt Егоров]

21% for Maven is awesome!

Can't wait for 100% ;)


On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:

> They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of
> last year...
>
> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/
>
> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
> actually registering on their map ;)
>
> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
>
> -Nick
>



-- 
Best regards,
Sergey Egorov

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

[Carlos Rovira]

Great new! thanks to share Nicholas :)

2013/1/9 Nicholas Kwiatkowski 

> They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of
> last year...
>
> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/
>
> It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that
> the community is getting stronger...  Either way, I'm glad that we are
> actually registering on their map ;)
>
> Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?
>
> -Nick
>



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