[JIRA] Assigned: (FOR-487) generate announcement text from the status.xml

2005-05-09 Thread issues
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   The following issue has been re-assigned.

   Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Key: FOR-487
Summary: generate announcement text from the status.xml
   Type: New Feature

 Status: Open
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Plugins (general issues)
   Fix Fors:
 0.8
   Versions:
 0.7-dev

   Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos
   Reporter: David Crossley

Created: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:23 PM
Updated: Mon, 9 May 2005 3:41 AM

Description:
By adding some attributes to the actions in status.xml we would be able to 
use certain entries for the announcement text.



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[JIRA] Updated: (FOR-487) generate announcement text from the status.xml

2005-05-09 Thread issues
The following issue has been updated:

Updater: Juan Jose Pablos (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
   Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 3:43 AM
Comment:
dtd changed needed
Changes:
 Attachment changed to importance.patch
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  http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-487?page=history

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View the issue:
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Here is an overview of the issue:
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Key: FOR-487
Summary: generate announcement text from the status.xml
   Type: New Feature

 Status: Open
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Plugins (general issues)
   Fix Fors:
 0.8
   Versions:
 0.7-dev

   Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos
   Reporter: David Crossley

Created: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:23 PM
Updated: Mon, 9 May 2005 3:43 AM

Description:
By adding some attributes to the actions in status.xml we would be able to 
use certain entries for the announcement text.



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Cocoon GetTogether 2005: call for assistance

2005-05-09 Thread Steven Noels
Hi folks,
a few months ago, I tentatively reserved The Pand in Ghent again for 
our annual gathering - now scheduled for 10-11 october 2005. Only a 
while after that, I learned about O'Reilly EuroOSCON, to be held 
October 17-20 in Amsterdam. There's obviously a bit of a scheduling 
conflict here - OTOH, Amsterdam and Ghent are only a 2 1/2 hour drive 
from each other, and October is always a busy conference month.

We're May now, and we need to decide how to move forward for the 
GetTogether. After last year's GetTogether, we decided to untie the GT 
from any commercial involvement (however small there ever was any), 
making sure the GT is an event organized by and for the Cocoon 
community. That means we need to form some sort of GT organisation 
committee, for which we need a couple of volunteers.

As for now, we need the following answers to be answered:
* are we on for 10-11 October?
* Ghent again?
* are you up for volunteering?
Things we need to tackle soon now:
* website design  development (the cocoongt.org domain has been 
registered for this purpose)
* call for proposals and ideas

We might seek some affiliation with the Apache Conference team as well.
Please direct your replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards,
/Steven
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status state

2005-05-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Hi,
i am looking at how we use status.xml, and these are my impressions:

1) I always like it status.xml to be on the root of out svn space, so
when you make a change you could modify it over there. Can we change
that back?

2) I tried to put the document type of status and I have found around
400 validation errors. they are mostly on the context attributes.

The valid attributes are build,code,docs,admin,design

My proposal is to add documentation about the scope of every single
attribute ie:
build --- our build system and tools that make the sofware
code  --- xsl,sitemaps and java code that we use
docs  --- our website, and documentation of the project.
design -- ¿?¿? skins maybe?

 out of that I am happy to help to convert all of those.


Cheers,
cheche


New Web Site based on Forrest

2005-05-09 Thread Sean Wheller
Hello,

Just a note to let you know that I have published my web site using Apache 
Forrest. I still have some minor issues to resolve, but the content is driven 
entirely from Docbook XML.

http://www.inwords.co.za

Feedback thoughts, ideas, typos, etc. All welcomed.

-- 
Sean Wheller
Technical Author
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
084-854-9408
http://www.inwords.co.za
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Re: status state

2005-05-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
Hi,
i am looking at how we use status.xml, and these are my impressions:
1) I always like it status.xml to be on the root of out svn space, so
when you make a change you could modify it over there. Can we change
that back?
I have no feelings in this whatsoever.
2) I tried to put the document type of status and I have found around
400 validation errors. they are mostly on the context attributes.
:-))
I did exactly the same thing and decided it was too big a job to fix in 
the middle of the night when I did it, so I ran away ;-)

The valid attributes are build,code,docs,admin,design
My proposal is to add documentation about the scope of every single
attribute ie:
build --- our build system and tools that make the sofware
code  --- xsl,sitemaps and java code that we use
docs  --- our website, and documentation of the project.
design -- ¿?¿? skins maybe?
I'd put skins under code, especially with view/viewhelper coming along 
which blurs the distinction even more.

design would be things like refactoring?
 out of that I am happy to help to convert all of those.
I'm still running away, so feel free ;-)
Ross


[Proposal] Forrest Terminology

2005-05-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe

Whenever I start explaining Forrest, I stumble into the problem of
crossing terminology borders, using terms like 'build', 'compile',
'run' for the Forrest program and at the same time applying them to
Forrest projects.

If this is not just my ignorance about the proper terms, can we
perhaps try and define a terminology that makes it easier to know
whether the instruction

'after that run Forrest'

means

- 'execute a Forrest run from the commandline'
   or
- 'execute Forrest from the commandline'

Or whether

'after that re-build your forrest'

means that I should rebuild the Java sources or run Forrest to
rebuild the static pages.

I find this extremely frustrating because you either have to assume
that a user will know what to do from context or you have to use
unpleasantly detailed wording to be sure they get it right.

If nobody objects, I'd be happy to suggest some changes to fix these
conflicts.


--
Ferdinand Soethe



Re: New Web Site based on Forrest

2005-05-09 Thread Sean Wheller
On Monday 09 May 2005 13:32, Ross Gardler wrote:
 Sean Wheller wrote:
  Just a note to let you know that I have published my web site using
  Apache Forrest. I still have some minor issues to resolve, but the
  content is driven entirely from Docbook XML.
 
  http://www.inwords.co.za

 added, thanks

Great.


  Feedback thoughts, ideas, typos, etc. All welcomed.

 I was thinking of contacting people like yourself, who have customised
 their skins, and requesting that you make the skin available for others
 via the skin download mechanism. It would be an easy way to contribute
 back to the community.

 All you need to do is package the skin using forrest and make it
 available somewhere on the web and let us know what to add to the
 skins.xml file (see http://forrest.apache.org/0.6/docs/skin-package.html )

 Of course, there is no obligation to do this. If the skin is an
 important part of your corporate branding we will understand perfectly.

 Problem is, the skin download mechanism has been around for a long time
 but has not really been tested out in the real world. Perhaps you could
 help us out by being the first to provide a skin to download?

Yes, I am aware of this problem. However, like you say branding is an issue. I 
will see if I can squeeze some time to develop a more generic skin type, 
based on the one you see on my web site, and publish that. I may also have 
the opportunity to produce a new skin for another project I am working on.

Keep in touch.

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Sean Wheller
Technical Author
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
084-854-9408
http://www.inwords.co.za
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Re: [Proposal] Forrest Terminology

2005-05-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
Whenever I start explaining Forrest, I stumble into the problem of
crossing terminology borders, using terms like 'build', 'compile',
'run' for the Forrest program and at the same time applying them to
Forrest projects.
...
If nobody objects, I'd be happy to suggest some changes to fix these
conflicts.
We'd never object to suggestions ;-)
In this case I don't see the problem, but as you say that is because I 
am a user who can infer the context. If you can improve things for new 
users then we're all listening.

Ross


Plugin simplified.docbook

2005-05-09 Thread Sean Wheller
Hi,

On a separate instance of forrest I have updated to svn HEAD.

In my project forrest.properties I have defined
project.required.plugins=org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.simplified-docbook

When I run forrest my site is rendered but content (docbook 4.2 xml is not). 
Yet it appears that the plugin is installed and configured.

check-java-version:
This is apache-forrest-0.7-dev
Using Java 1.4 from /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-sun-1.4.2.06/jre

init-plugins:
Copying 1 file to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp
Copying 1 file to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp
Copying 1 file to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp
Copying 1 file to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp
Installing plugin: org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.simplified-docbook



configure-input-plugin:
Mounting input plugin: org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.simplified-docbook
Processing /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp/input.xmap 
to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp/input.xmap.new
Loading stylesheet /home/sean/projects/forrest/main/var/pluginMountSnippet.xsl
Moving 1 files to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp
Processing /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp/resources.xmap 
to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp/resources.xmap.new
Loading stylesheet /home/sean/projects/forrest/main/var/pluginMountSnippet.xsl
Moving 1 files to /home/sean/projects/inwordsweb/trunk/build/tmp

Switching back to my previous instance of Forrest, the site renders with all 
content.

Any pointers.



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Sean Wheller
Technical Author
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
084-854-9408
http://www.inwords.co.za
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Encoding-atribute in site.xml (copied from user list)

2005-05-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe

Ross Gardler wrote:

RG Roland Becker wrote:

 Is there e reason, that site.xml after forrest seed has
 no encoding-atribute?
 
 If there is a german umlaut in site.xml, then build fails with:
 
 linkmap.html  BROKEN: Invalid byte 2 of 2-byte UTF-8 sequence.
 BUILD FAILED
 C:\programme\apache-forrest-0.6\src\core\targets\site.xml:43: Java returned: 
 1

RG No reason that I am aware of or can imagine. I've updated the file in
RG site.xml for the next release.


Funny, I have been using Umlaute with 0.7 head all over my site.xml
and never had a problem compiling it. See below:

?xml version=1.0?

 site label=Bildungsverein Hannover href= 
 xmlns=http://apache.org/forrest/linkmap/1.0; tab=home

   about label=Über uns tab=home
 über_uns label=Wir über uns href=index.html/
 Dozentinnen label=Dozent/innen href=dozentinnen.html/
 Lernorte label=Lernorte href=lernorte.html/
 agbs label=Geschäftsbedingungen href=agbs.html/
 newsletter label=Newsletter href=newsletter.html/
 kontakt label=Kontakt href=kontakt.html/
 impressum label=Impressum href=impressum.html/
 wegweiser label=Wegweiser href=Wegweiser.html/
   /about

I assumed that somebody had fixed the problem in the meantime but never
checked. Now I did and found that Eclipse understands site to be utf-8
even though there is not explicit declaration.

Perhaps we should append the issue and the FAQ entry (How to use
special characters in the labels of the site.xml file?) referring to
the problem and explain that you _can_ use special characters directly
if you use the standard utf-8 encoding for site.xml (and make sure
your editor knows it).

Still unclear to me: Am I correct that this is an _editor problem_ in
the sense that no encoding-attribute means the file is utf-8 but
Roland's editor needed a stronger hint?

Thanks,
Ferdinand Soethe