Re: [JIRA] Created: (FOR-494) Links not rendered correctly in text output plugin
Rick Tessner wrote: On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 17:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-494 Summary: Links not rendered correctly in text output plugin Type: Bug Hi all, I've committed a fix for this. There were similar issues with img, icon and acronym elements and those have been fixed as well. However, now I'm trying to deploy the plugin by 1. cd $FORREST_HOME/plugins/*.output.Text 2. ant deploy ... Is this still the proper way to deploy plugins? Yes, but I seem to have lost some edits to the file since I did the work on docs deplyoment. Now the blasted thing is broken. Thorsten spotted this earlier today. All I can say is, sorry - I have no idea where these updates have gone - it did work and I *thought* I'd updated SVN. However, it doesn't work on my local machine anymore and there appear to be no commits that have trampled over my changes. I'll look into it ASAP (hopefully tomorrow). Ross
Re: [Plugins] cannot build whiteboard plugins.
On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 21:51 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: I found the revision. Doing svn up r170336 will bring back the version that is working. @Ross did you tested the whiteboard plugins before you checked in the above revision? Any ideas how I can I fix it in trunk? Not directly no. The above revision simply replaces the whole buildfile with an import of the one in the main plugins directory. Since I published all the docs for the plugins in the main directory I kind of figured it would work. Yeah, I figured but I did not had time to dig in and find a fix. Sorry, I *should* have tested. No worries, mate. This things can happen. The spam attack (which killed my providers mail server) took me much more time then to find the revision number. ;-) Something strange is happening here, because now the main plugin build displays the same problem you describe and the target hasn't been present since r164079. I'll work out what happened and correct it ASAP. Hmm, the target checkout-deployed-docs does not exit (or better said cannot be found). Ross BTW @Rick you have been running into the same problem only for the main plugins. salu2 -- thorsten Together we stand, divided we fall! Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
I'd like to fix the dates of unofficial Forrest meet-ups at ApacheCon 2005 very soon so that people can schedule their travel accordingly. As far as I can tell, we could have two separate meet-ups: 1. Workshop Forrest Views with Thorsten explaining the concept and practical details of his Forrest-Views and plenty of opportunity to ask questions. My hope is that I will have a chance to understand Views after that which means that we will address people with a limited understanding of Forrest and Plug-ins. Duration: ~ 2 hrs? Questions: - Thorsten: = are you still willing to do this = is my description of entry requirements correct - All: = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?) = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to have this meet-up 2. General Exchange on Forrest an opportunity for Forrest users and developers to meet and have an open exchange about Forrest. If we have enough people committed to participating, we could/should we announce this meeting in our Forrest session for interested people to join us. Questions: = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?) = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to have this meet-up -- Ferdinand Soethe
About unknow libraries within lib/core
Hi, I am cleaning up the libraries for the next release, and I would like to know if we need these libraries: castor-0.9.5.3-xml.jar Castor is for xsp maybe?, I thought that we did not want to put xsp support on forrest. Do we need it? nekodtd-0.1.11.jar nekopull-0.2.4.jar xerces-xniWriter.jar I think that these ones are for converting dtd --- xdocs. But I would like to double check with you guys... Cheers, cheche
[JIRA] Closed: (FOR-497) Cannot use http in navigation menu
Message: The following issue has been closed. Resolver: Ross Gardler Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 6:23 AM My mistake, the broken link was actually in tabs.xml and it was because I was using dir instead of href to specify the link destination. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-497 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-497 Summary: Cannot use http in navigation menu Type: Bug Status: Closed Priority: Major Resolution: WON'T FIX Project: Forrest Fix Fors: 0.7-dev Versions: 0.8 Assignee: Reporter: Ross Gardler Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 6:19 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 6:23 AM Description: If site.xml contains a reference to an external link via an http: link the generation of th site fails: broken-links link message=No pipeline matched request: http:/forrest.apache.org/docs/plug ins/index.xml uri=http:/forrest.apache.org/docs/plugins/index.html referrer uri=linkmap.html/ referrer uri=samples/openoffice-writer-howto.html/ referrer uri=samples/index.html/ referrer uri=changes.html/ referrer uri=index.html/ referrer uri=todo.html/ referrer uri=samples/openoffice-writer.html/ referrer uri=samples/openoffice-impress.html/ /link /broken-links - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Updated: (FOR-499) Modiications to the Eclipse Plugin for Forrest
The following issue has been updated: Updater: Anil Ramnanan (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 9:45 AM Changes: Attachment changed to forrestPatch.txt - For a full history of the issue, see: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-499?page=history - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-499 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-499 Summary: Modiications to the Eclipse Plugin for Forrest Type: Improvement Status: Unassigned Priority: Minor Project: Forrest Components: Tool: Eclipse config Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: Anil Ramnanan Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 9:44 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 9:45 AM Description: This patch includes two fixes: 1. It prevents the user from starting more than one instance of the live server 2. It waits until the server is loaded before it opens the web browser. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Created: (FOR-496) Cannot put a link on an image
Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-496 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-496 Summary: Cannot put a link on an image Type: Bug Status: Unassigned Priority: Minor Project: Forrest Components: Plugin: OpenOffice.org Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: Cyriaque Dupoirieux Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 2:41 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 2:41 AM Environment: Any Description: Links under images in sxw sources are ignored in the resulting XHTML. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Re: Solving FOR-470 and getting rid of xdocs now?
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:06 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I've started looking into FOR-470. Looking at the details, I keep wondering if it wouldn't save us much work to get rid of x-docs and fix FOR-470 in one step. If we don't I'd change all the wording for raw-files to 'xdocs' now just to change all of them to 'content' for the next release. So if getting rid of xdocs means merely changing a setting in forrest. properties and adding a sentence in the update instructions, perhaps we could have _this one change_ in the dir structure right away? If it is more work or somebody has any objections, I'll happily just fix FOR-470 but otherwise I'd rather get rid of xdocs now. wdyt -1 We agreed to wait after 0.7 to get rid of xdocs. salu2 -- thorsten Together we stand, divided we fall! Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Q: Update http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/howto/howto-asf-mirror.html#cgi for FOR-470?
Is it correct to assume that http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/howto/howto-asf-mirror.html#cgi saying 'Utilising the Forrest concept of raw un-processed content, add the file as src/documentation/mirrors.cgi (copy the Forrest project's mirrors.cgi)' was already wrong for 0.6 (because raw content should be in the content-subdir) and should change to say 'Utilising the Forrest concept of raw un-processed content, add the file as src/documentation/content/xdocs/mirrors.cgi (copy the Forrest project's mirrors.cgi)' for version 0.7? -- Ferdinand Soethe
Broken links in seed site
Working on FOR-470 I just did a fresh seed and found a number of broken links, all involving site: and ext: protocols. * [18/47] [17/44] 0.641s 17.7Kb samples/linking.html X [0] samples/error:ext:linking BROKEN: No pipeline matched request: samples/error:ext:linking X [0] samples/error:site:hello_print BROKEN: No pipeline matched request: samples/error:site:hello_print X [0] samples/error:site:samples/faq BROKEN: No pipeline matched request: samples/error:site:samples/faq X [0] samples/error:site:faq BROKEN: No pipeline matched request: samples/error:site:faq Is this a new bug or the result of one of the recent bug fixes? -- Ferdinand Soethe
[External-refs] Recent problem
Hi, I have a problem with my link site:target where target is defined in site.xml in external-refs. Am I the only one or is it due to a recent svn update ? -- Regards, Cyriaque,
Re: Solving FOR-470 and getting rid of xdocs now?
I just realized that this will also involve changing the documentation and plugin sites and that is more than I'm able to do properly before the .7-release. So I'll withdraw my proposal and just fix FOR-470. Ferdinand
[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-394) html2document.xsl misses content before first h1 element
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Juan Jose Pablos Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:16 PM Body: the problem is is actually on these lines: !--infer structure from sibling headings-- xsl:template match=body body xsl:choose xsl:when test=h1 xsl:call-template name=process_h1/ /xsl:when xsl:otherwise section xsl:if test=a/@name xsl:attribute name=idxsl:value-of select=a/@name//xsl:attribute /xsl:if title/ xsl:apply-templates/ xsl:call-template name=process_h1/ /section /xsl:otherwise /xsl:choose /body /xsl:template - View this comment: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-394?page=comments#action_12397 - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-394 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-394 Summary: html2document.xsl misses content before first h1 element Type: Bug Status: Unassigned Priority: Minor Project: Forrest Fix Fors: 0.8 Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: Ross Gardler Created: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 7:22 PM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:16 PM Description: The html2document.xsl stylesheet does not transform content that precedes the first H1 element. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-153) Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution.
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Ross Gardler Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:31 PM Body: This is a useful analysis. Plugins can now have jar files in their lib directory, so for those needed by plugins only it should be a case of moving those out of core. --- The neko* jars are used to generate the DTD dcumentation, this funcitonlaity has been moved to a plugin as well. - View this comment: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153?page=comments#action_12398 - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-153 Summary: Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution. Type: Task Status: Open Priority: Major Project: Forrest Components: Compile Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos Created: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:18 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:31 PM Description: There are 71 Jar on our distribution. I am not 100% sure that all these jar are needed. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Closed: (FOR-441) build patch doesn't work
Message:
The following issue has been closed.
Resolver: Juan Jose Pablos
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:11 PM
missins dependecy to init so forrest.home was unknow for that target
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Key: FOR-441
Summary: build patch doesn't work
Type: Bug
Status: Closed
Priority: Minor
Resolution: FIXED
Project: Forrest
Versions:
0.7-dev
Assignee:
Reporter: Johannes Schaefer
Created: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 5:18 AM
Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:11 PM
Environment: Win XP, C:\j2sdk1.4.2_04, forrrest r. 154668
Description:
'build patch' doesn't work.
H:\forrest154656-0221svn status
? plugins\org.apache.forrest.plugin.excel\resources
! plugins\org.apache.forrest.plugin.excel\src\documentation\resources
H:\forrest154656-0221cd main
H:\forrest154656-0221\mainbuild patch
Using classpath:
;..\lib\endorsed\jakarta-bcel-20040329.jar;..\lib\endorsed\jakarta-regexp-1.3.jar;..\lib\endorsed\xala
n-2.6.1-dev-20041008T0304.jar;..\lib\endorsed\xercesImpl-2.6.2.jar;..\lib\endorsed\xml-apis.jar
Buildfile: build.xml
BUILD FAILED
H:\forrest154656-0221\main\build.xml:389: The following error occurred while
executing this line:
java.io.FileNotFoundException:
H:\forrest154656-0221\main\${forrest.home}\tools\targets\patch.xml (Das System
kann den a
ngegebenen Pfad nicht finden)
Total time: 0 seconds
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[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-153) Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution.
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Juan Jose Pablos Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57 PM Body: ok. I wanted to say that I was not sure if that funcionality was needed anymore. Moved neko*.jar and xerces-xniWriter.jar to plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.dtdx/lib/ - View this comment: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153?page=comments#action_12399 - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-153 Summary: Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution. Type: Task Status: Open Priority: Major Project: Forrest Components: Compile Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos Created: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:18 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57 PM Description: There are 71 Jar on our distribution. I am not 100% sure that all these jar are needed. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-259) openoffice files can skip sections
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Ferdinand Soethe Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 1:47 PM Body: Heading 4 Heading 9 Heading 2 I suggest to clearly flag Heading 9 as a layering error. If it was not ommitted and would have been translated it would create invalid HTML (even in HTML you must not skip heading levels when going down the hierarchy) and possibly create validity problems in 0.8 and XHTML. - View this comment: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-259?page=comments#action_12401 - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-259 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-259 Summary: openoffice files can skip sections Type: Bug Status: Unassigned Priority: Minor Project: Forrest Components: Plugin: OpenOffice.org Fix Fors: 0.8 Versions: 0.6 Assignee: Reporter: Dave Brondsema Created: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 2:32 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 1:47 PM Description: Create an openoffice file with lines like this: Heading 2 Heading 3 Heading 4 Heading 9 Heading 2 The last two lines are not translated into sections. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Created: (FOR-498) colspan not respected by Text plugin
Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-498 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-498 Summary: colspan not respected by Text plugin Type: Bug Status: Unassigned Priority: Minor Project: Forrest Components: Plugins (general issues) Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: Ross Gardler Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 8:58 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 8:58 AM Description: If a table element has a colspan attribute the text plugin ignores it. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Solving FOR-470 and getting rid of xdocs now?
I've started looking into FOR-470. Looking at the details, I keep wondering if it wouldn't save us much work to get rid of x-docs and fix FOR-470 in one step. If we don't I'd change all the wording for raw-files to 'xdocs' now just to change all of them to 'content' for the next release. So if getting rid of xdocs means merely changing a setting in forrest. properties and adding a sentence in the update instructions, perhaps we could have _this one change_ in the dir structure right away? If it is more work or somebody has any objections, I'll happily just fix FOR-470 but otherwise I'd rather get rid of xdocs now. wdyt -- Ferdinand Soethe
[JIRA] Assigned: (FOR-153) Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution.
Message: The following issue has been re-assigned. Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-153 Summary: Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution. Type: Task Status: Open Priority: Major Project: Forrest Components: Compile Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos Created: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:18 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 8:20 AM Description: There are 71 Jar on our distribution. I am not 100% sure that all these jar are needed. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Created: (FOR-495) Problem with Cocoon cache when regenerating
Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-495 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-495 Summary: Problem with Cocoon cache when regenerating Type: Bug Status: Unassigned Priority: Major Project: Forrest Components: Plugin: OpenOffice.org Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: Cyriaque Dupoirieux Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 2:40 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 2:40 AM Environment: Any Description: Modification of sxw sources are not taken into account if you do not delete the cocoon cache. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Re: [External-refs] Recent problem
Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote: Hi, I have a problem with my link site:target where target is defined in site.xml in external-refs. Am I the only one or is it due to a recent svn update ? It was fixed this evening, Let me know if that is working for you.. Cheers, cheche
Re: About unknow libraries within lib/core
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Hi, I am cleaning up the libraries for the next release, and I would like to know if we need these libraries: castor-0.9.5.3-xml.jar Castor is for xsp maybe?, I thought that we did not want to put xsp support on forrest. Do we need it? nekodtd-0.1.11.jar nekopull-0.2.4.jar xerces-xniWriter.jar I think that these ones are for converting dtd --- xdocs. But I would like to double check with you guys... How do we know that users are not taking advantage of those jars for other purposes? I notice that you moved Chaperon jar too. It too can be used for far more than the wiki capabilities. --David
[JIRA] Created: (FOR-500) ensure that all supporting libraries have a corresponding license
Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-500 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-500 Summary: ensure that all supporting libraries have a corresponding license Type: Task Status: Unassigned Priority: Blocker Project: Forrest Components: Core operations Fix Fors: 0.7-dev Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: David Crossley Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 7:25 PM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 7:25 PM Description: Some old libraries and some of the recently updated libraries do not have an updated license file. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Commented: (FOR-153) Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution.
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: David Crossley Created: Tue, 17 May 2005 7:59 PM Body: Eeek, please do testing after each jar move. cd main ./build.sh clean ./build.sh ... Compiling 31 source files to /svn/asf/forrest/build/classes /svn/asf/forrest/main/java/org/apache/forrest/sourcetype/SourceTypeAction.java:19: package org.cyberneko.pull does not exist import org.cyberneko.pull.XMLPullParser; ... - View this comment: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153?page=comments#action_12405 - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-153 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-153 Summary: Removing unneed Jar on forrest distribution. Type: Task Status: Open Priority: Major Project: Forrest Components: Compile Assignee: Juan Jose Pablos Reporter: Juan Jose Pablos Created: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:18 AM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 7:59 PM Description: There are 71 Jar on our distribution. I am not 100% sure that all these jar are needed. - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
[JIRA] Closed: (FOR-494) Links not rendered correctly in text output plugin
Message: The following issue has been closed. Resolver: Rick Tessner Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 9:58 PM Fix this. The icon, img and acronym elements had the same issue, so fixed them as well. This plugin has also been successfully deployed, so I'm closing this issue. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-494 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key: FOR-494 Summary: Links not rendered correctly in text output plugin Type: Bug Status: Closed Priority: Minor Resolution: FIXED Project: Forrest Components: Plugins (general issues) Fix Fors: 0.7-dev Versions: 0.7-dev Assignee: Reporter: Ross Gardler Created: Fri, 13 May 2005 5:01 PM Updated: Tue, 17 May 2005 9:58 PM Description: Links in list items are not rendered by the text output plugin Also, there is no space between a link and the following text - JIRA INFORMATION: This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.cocoondev.org//secure/Administrators.jspa If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Has anyone asked for a Birds-of-a-Feather session? I am not sure if non-registrants are allowed there, but maybe. Whatever, it would be a good chance for an extra meeting. --David
