Re: New plugin idea for debug viewer component
Hi Kevan, Thanks for your input. I'll take some time and see what i can do to re-engineer a better representation. Hopefully this implementation will help eliminate/reduce the frustration you and others are experiencing with the current view. Any other ideas or comments are certainly welcome! Thanks, Joseph Leong On Jan 31, 2008 12:28 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe,I think this would be pretty cool. I've often been frustrated trying to get information out of the classloader/dependency viewer. I certainly wouldn't rule out including this in our normal assembly. Will need to see what your solution looks like. You might want to consider a graphical view and a text-based view of the information. The current text-based view has most/all of the information. However, it's not very usable. Possible that with a bit of re-engineering, the views could be a lot more useful. --kevan On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Joseph Leong wrote: Hi Erik, Originally I'm just going off the idea of it being a neat plugin that the community or anyone can use. Just a sort of tool. I guess there is no telling how novel others will find this piece, but it's a starting point and hopefully a useful contribution at that. But to answer you original question, it's creation isn't expected to be in assembly or replacing/upgrading the current pieces merely an alternative. Yes, right now the dojo 1.x.x is looking to be the strongest contender and i want to keep consistency with what else we have in AG now. I'll provide updates later on what specifically for open opinion. Thanks for your thoughts, -Joe On Jan 30, 2008 4:35 PM, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, If this is something that is intended for eventual inclusion in a full assembly/replacing or upgrading the classloader and dependency viewers, then you should probably be looking into using dojo 1.0.2, especially giving that the current stuff is already written to use dojo 0.4.3, and shouldn't be that completely terrible of a task to migrate them / improve them. Thanks, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 30, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Joseph Leong wrote: Hi All, So i was thinking about creating a neat new little plugin piece that would help represent the data in the ClassLoader Viewer and Dependency Viewer better visually. The purpose of this is to represent the current data/hierarchy in a more complete and graphical format..ultimately hoping that this node and arc format will be found useful to those who prefer a diagram representation. Does anyone have any ideas of what they'd like to see be put in this plugin that would help them? This is definitely going to be Ajax, but i am still undecided and researching with what to go with ... currently going to try and compare different packages with graph library/engines. The best, Joseph Leong
New plugin idea for debug viewer component
Hi All, So i was thinking about creating a neat new little plugin piece that would help represent the data in the ClassLoader Viewer and Dependency Viewer better visually. The purpose of this is to represent the current data/hierarchy in a more complete and graphical format..ultimately hoping that this node and arc format will be found useful to those who prefer a diagram representation. Does anyone have any ideas of what they'd like to see be put in this plugin that would help them? This is definitely going to be Ajax, but i am still undecided and researching with what to go with ... currently going to try and compare different packages with graph library/engines. The best, Joseph Leong
Re: New plugin idea for debug viewer component
Joe, If this is something that is intended for eventual inclusion in a full assembly/replacing or upgrading the classloader and dependency viewers, then you should probably be looking into using dojo 1.0.2, especially giving that the current stuff is already written to use dojo 0.4.3, and shouldn't be that completely terrible of a task to migrate them / improve them. Thanks, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 30, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Joseph Leong wrote: Hi All, So i was thinking about creating a neat new little plugin piece that would help represent the data in the ClassLoader Viewer and Dependency Viewer better visually. The purpose of this is to represent the current data/hierarchy in a more complete and graphical format..ultimately hoping that this node and arc format will be found useful to those who prefer a diagram representation. Does anyone have any ideas of what they'd like to see be put in this plugin that would help them? This is definitely going to be Ajax, but i am still undecided and researching with what to go with ... currently going to try and compare different packages with graph library/engines. The best, Joseph Leong
Re: New plugin idea for debug viewer component
Hi Erik, Originally I'm just going off the idea of it being a neat plugin that the community or anyone can use. Just a sort of tool. I guess there is no telling how novel others will find this piece, but it's a starting point and hopefully a useful contribution at that. But to answer you original question, it's creation isn't expected to be in assembly or replacing/upgrading the current pieces merely an alternative. Yes, right now the dojo 1.x.x is looking to be the strongest contender and i want to keep consistency with what else we have in AG now. I'll provide updates later on what specifically for open opinion. Thanks for your thoughts, -Joe On Jan 30, 2008 4:35 PM, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, If this is something that is intended for eventual inclusion in a full assembly/replacing or upgrading the classloader and dependency viewers, then you should probably be looking into using dojo 1.0.2, especially giving that the current stuff is already written to use dojo 0.4.3, and shouldn't be that completely terrible of a task to migrate them / improve them. Thanks, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 30, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Joseph Leong wrote: Hi All, So i was thinking about creating a neat new little plugin piece that would help represent the data in the ClassLoader Viewer and Dependency Viewer better visually. The purpose of this is to represent the current data/hierarchy in a more complete and graphical format..ultimately hoping that this node and arc format will be found useful to those who prefer a diagram representation. Does anyone have any ideas of what they'd like to see be put in this plugin that would help them? This is definitely going to be Ajax, but i am still undecided and researching with what to go with ... currently going to try and compare different packages with graph library/engines. The best, Joseph Leong
Re: New plugin idea for debug viewer component
Joe, I think this would be pretty cool. I've often been frustrated trying to get information out of the classloader/dependency viewer. I certainly wouldn't rule out including this in our normal assembly. Will need to see what your solution looks like. You might want to consider a graphical view and a text-based view of the information. The current text-based view has most/all of the information. However, it's not very usable. Possible that with a bit of re-engineering, the views could be a lot more useful. --kevan On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Joseph Leong wrote: Hi Erik, Originally I'm just going off the idea of it being a neat plugin that the community or anyone can use. Just a sort of tool. I guess there is no telling how novel others will find this piece, but it's a starting point and hopefully a useful contribution at that. But to answer you original question, it's creation isn't expected to be in assembly or replacing/upgrading the current pieces merely an alternative. Yes, right now the dojo 1.x.x is looking to be the strongest contender and i want to keep consistency with what else we have in AG now. I'll provide updates later on what specifically for open opinion. Thanks for your thoughts, -Joe On Jan 30, 2008 4:35 PM, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, If this is something that is intended for eventual inclusion in a full assembly/replacing or upgrading the classloader and dependency viewers, then you should probably be looking into using dojo 1.0.2, especially giving that the current stuff is already written to use dojo 0.4.3, and shouldn't be that completely terrible of a task to migrate them / improve them. Thanks, Erik B. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 30, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Joseph Leong wrote: Hi All, So i was thinking about creating a neat new little plugin piece that would help represent the data in the ClassLoader Viewer and Dependency Viewer better visually. The purpose of this is to represent the current data/hierarchy in a more complete and graphical format..ultimately hoping that this node and arc format will be found useful to those who prefer a diagram representation. Does anyone have any ideas of what they'd like to see be put in this plugin that would help them? This is definitely going to be Ajax, but i am still undecided and researching with what to go with ... currently going to try and compare different packages with graph library/engines. The best, Joseph Leong
