Re: Confluence Setup (was: Re: zones update)

2005-12-03 Thread Jason Dillon

Anyone know what smtp server is available in our zone that will relay?

Need one for Confluence email notifications.

--jason


On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:32 PM, David Blevins wrote:


On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

Is there a MySQL database available for Geronimo use?  We probably  
want to use an external RDMBS to back the Confluence setup.




I think it's pretty much vanilla zone with nothing in it really.   
We got it a month or so ago and haven't done anything with it yet.   
So you're the first!


I can start with the standalone and we can migrate to an external  
RDBMS later if there isn't one available right now.




I'm fine with whatever RDBMS you are willing to maintain :)

Also, unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm going to put all  
of this under /opt/confluence.




Works for me.


--jason

PS. Zones looks cool... too bad its not Linux though :-(



Yea, that throws me too.

-David



On Dec 2, 2005, at 6:48 PM, David Blevins wrote:


On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:


I'd love to... but what the heck is a zone?



Awesome!  Here is the zone info i am aware of:  http:// 
www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html


I'll set you up an account.

-David








Re: Confluence Setup (was: Re: zones update)

2005-12-03 Thread Jason Dillon
FYI, MoinMoin ain't got nuthin on the latest plugins for Confluence,  
like the Composition plugin:


   http://www.randombits.org/display/CONF/Home

If you haven't seen these, you really gotta check them out.  The tabs  
and clocking macros turn any ordinary flat wiki page into a dynamic  
documentation application.


Um, anyways... Its been a long time since I was on the infra list...  
but I tend to recall they listen to reason, and I believe that the  
move to Confluence is more than reasonable.  So perhaps they just  
need a bit more convincing and a hearty nudge.


--jason


On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:


On 12/3/05, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there a MySQL database available for Geronimo use?  We probably
want to use an external RDMBS to back the Confluence setup.

I can start with the standalone and we can migrate to an external
RDBMS later if there isn't one available right now.

Also, unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm going to put all of
this under /opt/confluence.


There has been some raging debate over weather we should use
Confluence over on the infrastruture list. The powers that be say
we've already got a wiki and we should just use it. The alternative
was that we run our own Confluence instance from the Solaris zone -
that went over like a lead balloon with infrastructure.

Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61EG;6%I;\"YC;VT*"

);'

The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/

Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/




Re: Confluence Setup (was: Re: zones update)

2005-12-03 Thread Jason Dillon
At the time which I recommended to the Infra list to switch from  
UseMod to MoinMoin, I did not think that Confluence was going to grow  
up as fast as it did... or I would have been more inclined to  
recommend Confluence.


But, things change...

And I believe that Confluence is really a much more powerful system  
than MoinMoin is and will be for quite some time.


The added niceness of the rich integration with JIRA makes Confluence  
an ideal choice for managing rich release notes.


And now with Confluence 2.x there is a RTE so even people who aren't  
wiki savvy can easily add to the content.


Oh, and not to mention that it has built in support for "farming"...  
aka spaces, and a much richer permission system.


I could go on...

Right now, I think that Geronimo would really benefit from Confluence  
to produce and manage user documentation.


I think that Infra might eventually want to move to it for  
wiki.apache.org too, but right now I don't think we should push for  
that.  We can lead by example.  And when/if they want to switch I can  
help them migrate, it should be much easier than the UseMod to  
MoinMoin move that was done... um 2 years ago... I forget.


--jason


On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:


On 12/3/05, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there a MySQL database available for Geronimo use?  We probably
want to use an external RDMBS to back the Confluence setup.

I can start with the standalone and we can migrate to an external
RDBMS later if there isn't one available right now.

Also, unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm going to put all of
this under /opt/confluence.


There has been some raging debate over weather we should use
Confluence over on the infrastruture list. The powers that be say
we've already got a wiki and we should just use it. The alternative
was that we run our own Confluence instance from the Solaris zone -
that went over like a lead balloon with infrastructure.

Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61EG;6%I;\"YC;VT*"

);'

The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/

Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/




Re: Confluence Setup (was: Re: zones update)

2005-12-03 Thread David Blevins

On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

Is there a MySQL database available for Geronimo use?  We probably  
want to use an external RDMBS to back the Confluence setup.




I think it's pretty much vanilla zone with nothing in it really.  We  
got it a month or so ago and haven't done anything with it yet.  So  
you're the first!


I can start with the standalone and we can migrate to an external  
RDBMS later if there isn't one available right now.




I'm fine with whatever RDBMS you are willing to maintain :)

Also, unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm going to put all  
of this under /opt/confluence.




Works for me.


--jason

PS. Zones looks cool... too bad its not Linux though :-(



Yea, that throws me too.

-David



On Dec 2, 2005, at 6:48 PM, David Blevins wrote:


On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:


I'd love to... but what the heck is a zone?



Awesome!  Here is the zone info i am aware of:  http:// 
www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html


I'll set you up an account.

-David






Re: Confluence Setup (was: Re: zones update)

2005-12-03 Thread Bruce Snyder
On 12/3/05, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a MySQL database available for Geronimo use?  We probably
> want to use an external RDMBS to back the Confluence setup.
>
> I can start with the standalone and we can migrate to an external
> RDBMS later if there isn't one available right now.
>
> Also, unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm going to put all of
> this under /opt/confluence.

There has been some raging debate over weather we should use
Confluence over on the infrastruture list. The powers that be say
we've already got a wiki and we should just use it. The alternative
was that we run our own Confluence instance from the Solaris zone -
that went over like a lead balloon with infrastructure.

Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61Ehttp://www.castor.org/

Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/