Re: Download page incorrectly lists "OS X" and "Unix" as being compatible

2006-10-19 Thread Jason Dillon
IMO it is really lame to need to certify a Java product on a billion  
different operating systems...  Isn't Sun's Java motto still write  
once run everywhere?  Or does that not apply to certification of j2ee  
platforms?  Write once certify everywhere?!


--jason


On Oct 19, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:


Geir,

Can you enumerate the specific requirements for "certification"?

You have a valid point about OS X but if we certified on SuSE 9.3  
is it not still  certified release on SuSE 10?  Or even jumping  
from SuSE to Red Hat or even Solaris x86 or SPARC.  I'm curious  
about how the certification treats all these possible permutations  
(yikes ;-0 )


Would it be acceptable to say something like:

J2EE certified Release (with some link to a page that describes the  
exact certification environment) and lists *nix as a general platform?


I guess I'm really curious about what certified means based on your  
comment below.


On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


They aren't tested.

Can we put a separate section (or a separate page) for the non- 
certified downloads?


geir



Matt Hogstrom
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Re: Download page incorrectly lists "OS X" and "Unix" as being compatible

2006-10-19 Thread Matt Hogstrom

Geir,

Can you enumerate the specific requirements for "certification"?

You have a valid point about OS X but if we certified on SuSE 9.3 is  
it not still  certified release on SuSE 10?  Or even jumping from  
SuSE to Red Hat or even Solaris x86 or SPARC.  I'm curious about how  
the certification treats all these possible permutations (yikes ;-0 )


Would it be acceptable to say something like:

J2EE certified Release (with some link to a page that describes the  
exact certification environment) and lists *nix as a general platform?


I guess I'm really curious about what certified means based on your  
comment below.


On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:


They aren't tested.

Can we put a separate section (or a separate page) for the non- 
certified downloads?


geir



Matt Hogstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Download page incorrectly lists "OS X" and "Unix" as being compatible

2006-10-19 Thread Kevan Miller


On Oct 18, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:



Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

They aren't tested.
Can we put a separate section (or a separate page) for the non- 
certified downloads?

geir


IIUC you are concerned about the heading "J2EE 1.4 Certified  
Releases" followed by "Linux/Mac OS X/Unix Downloads".   Those  
downloads are for those various platforms listed even if we only  
certified against a subset of the list.  Would it be better to just  
remove the word "certified" from the earlier heading?


If necessary, we could specify somewhere else on the download page  
that we actually only certified against Linux and Windows.


What do you think?


The web page seems OK to me, as is. The *releases* are certified. We  
create different distributions to aid users in installing on  
different platforms. They all contain the same binaries...


If you want to remove the "certified", I'm ok with that. If we want  
to add explicit information about what platforms we certify on (Linux  
and Azul at the moment), we can do that, also...


--kevan



Re: Download page incorrectly lists "OS X" and "Unix" as being compatible

2006-10-18 Thread Hernan Cunico

Maybe we can add something like this at the top of the download page

J2EE Certified! <- title
Apache Geronimo is certified in the full J2EE 1.4 stack on Linux and Windows 
platforms.

and then, as Joe said, entirely remove the "J2EE 1.4 Certified Releases" from 
the individual download sections.

Do we need to disclose anything in particular for Little-G being a subset of the 
"Big-G"?

Cheers!
Hernan

Joe Bohn wrote:


Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

They aren't tested.

Can we put a separate section (or a separate page) for the 
non-certified downloads?


geir


IIUC you are concerned about the heading "J2EE 1.4 Certified Releases" 
followed by "Linux/Mac OS X/Unix Downloads".   Those downloads are for 
those various platforms listed even if we only certified against a 
subset of the list.  Would it be better to just remove the word 
"certified" from the earlier heading?


If necessary, we could specify somewhere else on the download page that 
we actually only certified against Linux and Windows.


What do you think?

Joe




Re: Download page incorrectly lists "OS X" and "Unix" as being compatible

2006-10-18 Thread Joe Bohn


Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

They aren't tested.

Can we put a separate section (or a separate page) for the non-certified 
downloads?


geir


IIUC you are concerned about the heading "J2EE 1.4 Certified Releases" 
followed by "Linux/Mac OS X/Unix Downloads".   Those downloads are for 
those various platforms listed even if we only certified against a 
subset of the list.  Would it be better to just remove the word 
"certified" from the earlier heading?


If necessary, we could specify somewhere else on the download page that 
we actually only certified against Linux and Windows.


What do you think?

Joe