Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

Brett Porter wrote, On 10/31/2005 12:52 PM:


Not exactly. The soft version is the version that will be used if it
fits in the valid ranges, and ignored if not. The conflict resolver in
play decides whether to use the nearest or newest of these versions -
in 2.0 only "nearest" was enabled.

If you want to allow a range, you have to give it an actual range in
the dependency declaration.

We're certainly looking to make some improvements to this based on
experience in 2.1 which is in planning now - so I appreciate any
suggestions.

Either scheme will let you do what you want using a range whether it
is [2.4,2.5) or [1.0,); it's just a matter of what you find
friendliest and most manageable from a perspective of releasing the
specs.

Maybe this is better:

servlet-2.4-spec-1.0

Where 1.0 is the version, servlet-2.4-spec is the artifact Id.
 



That looks great, if that's what it takes to make sure that servlet-2.4 
is the artifact id.



Regards,
Alan





Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
This is starting to sound pretty interesting.  Could you flesh out this 
example for those who are not maven gurus?



Regards,
Alan

Brett Porter wrote, On 10/31/2005 12:20 PM:


Yes, version ranges work, but simply omitting the version won't do it.

You could have [2.4,2.5) to pick up 2.4, 2.4-1, 2.4-2, etc. though.

Cheers,
Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Oh, I thought one of the big features of m2 was support for version
ranges.

BTW I find the name servlet-2.4-1.0 confusing myself.

-dain

On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

   


Actually, I meant a version of 2.4-1, 2.4-2.

I think there is advantages and disadvantages to each, so I'll let you
all decide what's best to work with. I just wanted to point out that
omitting the version won't work so it'll need to be specified, and
personally I'd find that a bit confusing presented with:

servlet-2.4-1.0.

- Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Just to clarify you mean we should have this:

  org.apache.geronimo.specs
  servlet-2.4
  Geronimo :: Servlet API
  1

So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?

BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified
version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are
mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.  Also
if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,
we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the
debug symbols to match-up.

-dain

On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


   


I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.

Personally, I'd prefer to have:
servlet-api-2.4
servlet-api-2.4-1
servlet-api-2.4-2
or similar.

(Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the
same
source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
anyway :)

Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it
might
be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
the spec number.

My 2cents...

- Brett


On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 


I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
this is what I got:

Normally we just have this directory structure:

specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:

specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
The pom for the specs would be like this:

  org.apache.geronimo.specs
servlet-2.4
Geronimo :: Servlet API
  1.0
With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:

  
org.apache.geronimo.specs
servlet-2.4
  

The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/
asf/
geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will
be to
add the version number of the specification to the directory name.

What do yo think?

-dain


   

 

   

   






Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Brett Porter
Not exactly. The soft version is the version that will be used if it
fits in the valid ranges, and ignored if not. The conflict resolver in
play decides whether to use the nearest or newest of these versions -
in 2.0 only "nearest" was enabled.

If you want to allow a range, you have to give it an actual range in
the dependency declaration.

We're certainly looking to make some improvements to this based on
experience in 2.1 which is in planning now - so I appreciate any
suggestions.

Either scheme will let you do what you want using a range whether it
is [2.4,2.5) or [1.0,); it's just a matter of what you find
friendliest and most manageable from a perspective of releasing the
specs.

Maybe this is better:

servlet-2.4-spec-1.0

Where 1.0 is the version, servlet-2.4-spec is the artifact Id.

Cheers,
Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  From what I read on the maven wiki, you support soft versions, so
> using the style you described below would 2.4
> resolve to the newest 2.4* version you have in your local repo.  Is
> that accurate?
>
> -dain


Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Dain Sundstrom
From what I read on the maven wiki, you support soft versions, so  
using the style you described below would 2.4  
resolve to the newest 2.4* version you have in your local repo.  Is  
that accurate?


-dain

On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


Yes, version ranges work, but simply omitting the version won't do it.

You could have [2.4,2.5) to pick up 2.4, 2.4-1, 2.4-2, etc. though.

Cheers,
Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh, I thought one of the big features of m2 was support for version
ranges.

BTW I find the name servlet-2.4-1.0 confusing myself.

-dain

On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Brett Porter wrote:



Actually, I meant a version of 2.4-1, 2.4-2.

I think there is advantages and disadvantages to each, so I'll  
let you

all decide what's best to work with. I just wanted to point out that
omitting the version won't work so it'll need to be specified, and
personally I'd find that a bit confusing presented with:

servlet-2.4-1.0.

- Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Just to clarify you mean we should have this:

   org.apache.geronimo.specs
   servlet-2.4
   Geronimo :: Servlet API
   1

So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?

BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified
version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are
mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.   
Also

if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,
we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the
debug symbols to match-up.

-dain

On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:




I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though  
it is

probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.

Personally, I'd prefer to have:
servlet-api-2.4
servlet-api-2.4-1
servlet-api-2.4-2
or similar.

(Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the
same
source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
anyway :)

Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it
might
be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number  
instead of

the spec number.

My 2cents...

- Brett


On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd  
like
to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and  
Jason,

this is what I got:

Normally we just have this directory structure:

specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:

specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
The pom for the specs would be like this:

   org.apache.geronimo.specs
 servlet-2.4
 Geronimo :: Servlet API
   1.0
With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following  
and
maven will pick the most resent release of our spec  
automatically:


   
 org.apache.geronimo.specs
 servlet-2.4
   

The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/
asf/
geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will
be to
add the version number of the specification to the directory  
name.


What do yo think?

-dain























Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Brett Porter
Yes, version ranges work, but simply omitting the version won't do it.

You could have [2.4,2.5) to pick up 2.4, 2.4-1, 2.4-2, etc. though.

Cheers,
Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, I thought one of the big features of m2 was support for version
> ranges.
>
> BTW I find the name servlet-2.4-1.0 confusing myself.
>
> -dain
>
> On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > Actually, I meant a version of 2.4-1, 2.4-2.
> >
> > I think there is advantages and disadvantages to each, so I'll let you
> > all decide what's best to work with. I just wanted to point out that
> > omitting the version won't work so it'll need to be specified, and
> > personally I'd find that a bit confusing presented with:
> >
> > servlet-2.4-1.0.
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Just to clarify you mean we should have this:
> >>
> >>org.apache.geronimo.specs
> >>servlet-2.4
> >>Geronimo :: Servlet API
> >>1
> >>
> >> So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?
> >>
> >> BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified
> >> version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are
> >> mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.  Also
> >> if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,
> >> we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the
> >> debug symbols to match-up.
> >>
> >> -dain
> >>
> >> On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
> >>> omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
> >>> probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I'd prefer to have:
> >>> servlet-api-2.4
> >>> servlet-api-2.4-1
> >>> servlet-api-2.4-2
> >>> or similar.
> >>>
> >>> (Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the
> >>> same
> >>> source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
> >>> creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
> >>> Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
> >>> anyway :)
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it
> >>> might
> >>> be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
> >>> the spec number.
> >>>
> >>> My 2cents...
> >>>
> >>> - Brett
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
>  to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
>  this is what I got:
> 
>  Normally we just have this directory structure:
> 
>  specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
>  specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
>  specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
>  When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:
> 
>  specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
>  specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
>  specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
>  specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
>  specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
>  specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
>  The pom for the specs would be like this:
> 
> org.apache.geronimo.specs
>   servlet-2.4
>   Geronimo :: Servlet API
> 1.0
>  With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
>  maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:
> 
> 
>   org.apache.geronimo.specs
>   servlet-2.4
> 
> 
>  The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/
>  asf/
>  geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will
>  be to
>  add the version number of the specification to the directory name.
> 
>  What do yo think?
> 
>  -dain
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Oh, I thought one of the big features of m2 was support for version  
ranges.


BTW I find the name servlet-2.4-1.0 confusing myself.

-dain

On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


Actually, I meant a version of 2.4-1, 2.4-2.

I think there is advantages and disadvantages to each, so I'll let you
all decide what's best to work with. I just wanted to point out that
omitting the version won't work so it'll need to be specified, and
personally I'd find that a bit confusing presented with:

servlet-2.4-1.0.

- Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Just to clarify you mean we should have this:

   org.apache.geronimo.specs
   servlet-2.4
   Geronimo :: Servlet API
   1

So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?

BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified
version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are
mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.  Also
if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,
we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the
debug symbols to match-up.

-dain

On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:



I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.

Personally, I'd prefer to have:
servlet-api-2.4
servlet-api-2.4-1
servlet-api-2.4-2
or similar.

(Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the  
same

source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
anyway :)

Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it  
might

be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
the spec number.

My 2cents...

- Brett


On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
this is what I got:

Normally we just have this directory structure:

specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:

specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
The pom for the specs would be like this:

   org.apache.geronimo.specs
 servlet-2.4
 Geronimo :: Servlet API
   1.0
With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:

   
 org.apache.geronimo.specs
 servlet-2.4
   

The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/ 
asf/
geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will  
be to

add the version number of the specification to the directory name.

What do yo think?

-dain














Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Brett Porter
Just re-reading that I realised it could be a bit confusing as 2.4-1
and 2.4-1.0 look very similar.

The difference is that the first would be:
servlet
2.4-1

as opposed to
servlet-2.4
1.0

I think this is an interesting thing to discuss and perhaps feed back
into the Maven default versioning rules to accommodate it in general
if there is something better that we can come up with.

- Brett

On 11/1/05, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, I meant a version of 2.4-1, 2.4-2.
>
> I think there is advantages and disadvantages to each, so I'll let you
> all decide what's best to work with. I just wanted to point out that
> omitting the version won't work so it'll need to be specified, and
> personally I'd find that a bit confusing presented with:
>
> servlet-2.4-1.0.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just to clarify you mean we should have this:
> >
> >org.apache.geronimo.specs
> >servlet-2.4
> >Geronimo :: Servlet API
> >1
> >
> > So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?
> >
> > BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified
> > version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are
> > mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.  Also
> > if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,
> > we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the
> > debug symbols to match-up.
> >
> > -dain
> >
> > On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> > > I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
> > > omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
> > > probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.
> > >
> > > Personally, I'd prefer to have:
> > > servlet-api-2.4
> > > servlet-api-2.4-1
> > > servlet-api-2.4-2
> > > or similar.
> > >
> > > (Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the same
> > > source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
> > > creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
> > > Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
> > > anyway :)
> > >
> > > Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it might
> > > be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
> > > the spec number.
> > >
> > > My 2cents...
> > >
> > > - Brett
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
> > >> to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
> > >> this is what I got:
> > >>
> > >> Normally we just have this directory structure:
> > >>
> > >> specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
> > >> specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
> > >> specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
> > >> When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:
> > >>
> > >> specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
> > >> specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
> > >> specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
> > >> specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
> > >> specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
> > >> specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
> > >> The pom for the specs would be like this:
> > >>
> > >>org.apache.geronimo.specs
> > >>  servlet-2.4
> > >>  Geronimo :: Servlet API
> > >>1.0
> > >> With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
> > >> maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  org.apache.geronimo.specs
> > >>  servlet-2.4
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/
> > >> geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will be to
> > >> add the version number of the specification to the directory name.
> > >>
> > >> What do yo think?
> > >>
> > >> -dain
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>


Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Brett Porter
Actually, I meant a version of 2.4-1, 2.4-2.

I think there is advantages and disadvantages to each, so I'll let you
all decide what's best to work with. I just wanted to point out that
omitting the version won't work so it'll need to be specified, and
personally I'd find that a bit confusing presented with:

servlet-2.4-1.0.

- Brett

On 11/1/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just to clarify you mean we should have this:
>
>org.apache.geronimo.specs
>servlet-2.4
>Geronimo :: Servlet API
>1
>
> So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?
>
> BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified
> version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are
> mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.  Also
> if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,
> we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the
> debug symbols to match-up.
>
> -dain
>
> On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
> > omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
> > probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.
> >
> > Personally, I'd prefer to have:
> > servlet-api-2.4
> > servlet-api-2.4-1
> > servlet-api-2.4-2
> > or similar.
> >
> > (Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the same
> > source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
> > creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
> > Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
> > anyway :)
> >
> > Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it might
> > be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
> > the spec number.
> >
> > My 2cents...
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> >
> > On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
> >> to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
> >> this is what I got:
> >>
> >> Normally we just have this directory structure:
> >>
> >> specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
> >> specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
> >> specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
> >> When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:
> >>
> >> specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
> >> specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
> >> specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
> >> specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
> >> specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
> >> specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
> >> The pom for the specs would be like this:
> >>
> >>org.apache.geronimo.specs
> >>  servlet-2.4
> >>  Geronimo :: Servlet API
> >>1.0
> >> With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
> >> maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:
> >>
> >>
> >>  org.apache.geronimo.specs
> >>  servlet-2.4
> >>
> >>
> >> The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/
> >> geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will be to
> >> add the version number of the specification to the directory name.
> >>
> >> What do yo think?
> >>
> >> -dain
> >>
> >
>
>


Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-31 Thread Dain Sundstrom

Just to clarify you mean we should have this:

  org.apache.geronimo.specs
  servlet-2.4
  Geronimo :: Servlet API
  1

So the version number is a single non-dotted increasing integer?

BTW for most APIs we will be able to simply release a certified  
version and never update, but for some APIs, like JavaMail, are  
mostly implementation code, we will have to to patch releases.  Also  
if we get into the habit of adding JavaDoc documentation over time,  
we will have to do periodic release to get the line numbers in the  
debug symbols to match-up.


-dain

On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.

Personally, I'd prefer to have:
servlet-api-2.4
servlet-api-2.4-1
servlet-api-2.4-2
or similar.

(Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the same
source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
anyway :)

Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it might
be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
the spec number.

My 2cents...

- Brett


On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
this is what I got:

Normally we just have this directory structure:

specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:

specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
The pom for the specs would be like this:

   org.apache.geronimo.specs
 servlet-2.4
 Geronimo :: Servlet API
   1.0
With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:

   
 org.apache.geronimo.specs
 servlet-2.4
   

The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/
geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will be to
add the version number of the specification to the directory name.

What do yo think?

-dain







Re: Specs directory structure

2005-10-30 Thread Brett Porter
I think this versioning has potential to be confusing, and the
omission of  below doesn't actually do that - though it is
probably possible with a version of (,) that includes everything.

Personally, I'd prefer to have:
servlet-api-2.4
servlet-api-2.4-1
servlet-api-2.4-2
or similar.

(Technically, the last "build number" is used for rebuilding the same
source code, not patching, but I think the alternative of 2.4.x
creates some more confusion and the above will work as intended).
Ideally, once 2.4 is compliant you don't need to release it again
anyway :)

Perhaps when we have proper spec-dependency handling in Maven it might
be less confusing to use the geronimo-spec version number instead of
the spec number.

My 2cents...

- Brett


On 10/30/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like
> to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,
> this is what I got:
>
> Normally we just have this directory structure:
>
> specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
> specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
> specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
> When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:
>
> specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
> specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
> specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
> specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
> specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
> specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
> The pom for the specs would be like this:
>
>org.apache.geronimo.specs
>  servlet-2.4
>  Geronimo :: Servlet API
>1.0
> With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and
> maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:
>
>
>  org.apache.geronimo.specs
>  servlet-2.4
>
>
> The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/
> geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will be to
> add the version number of the specification to the directory name.
>
> What do yo think?
>
> -dain
>


Specs directory structure

2005-10-29 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I know this has been talked about before on this list, but I'd like  
to get the proposal in one place.  With the help of Alan and Jason,  
this is what I got:


Normally we just have this directory structure:

specs/trunk/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/trunk/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/trunk/jsp-2.4/src/
When we are happy with the specs we make a tag:

specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.0/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.0/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.2/src/
specs/tags/1.1/servlet-2.4/src/
specs/tags/1.1/javamail-2.2-r2/src/
The pom for the specs would be like this:

  org.apache.geronimo.specs
servlet-2.4
Geronimo :: Servlet API
  1.0
With maven 2 version ranges a user can just have the following and  
maven will pick the most resent release of our spec automatically:


  
org.apache.geronimo.specs
servlet-2.4
  

The current directory structure in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ 
geronimo/specs is very close to this.  The only big change will be to  
add the version number of the specification to the directory name.


What do yo think?

-dain