Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
+1 to removing all zips from the Wiki and releasing the samples with (or very quickly) after the server. -Donald Jarek Gawor wrote: On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) when we release Geronimo. Jarek smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
+1 to that. If we released it, then we could point it to the published binaries. Cheers Prasad On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I mentioned "parity" between svn and the wiki I really meant to > stress the same stuff showing both locations, which I think Jarek's > suggestion would help achieve.Another idea would be to build and > deploy the samples using maven. Then we could point the wiki page at > the maven repo for both the compiled binary and for the source.zip > (which is automatically created by maven). > > Best wishes, > Paul > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Jarek Gawor wrote: > > > Binary files in wiki and source in svn? That works for me. > > > > Jarek > > > > On 10/29/07, Erik B. Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Prasad, > >> I have put some thought into this myself and agree with you. It > >> would be > >> too much of a hassle for users, I think, if they have to download > >> subversion and maven along with the sample app, and THEN compile it > >> before attempting to deploy it. Probably the best thing would be > >> to have > >> 'releases' or snapshots of the sample apps up on the wiki, along with > >> the source being in the subversion repo. > >> > >> > >> -Erik > >> > >> Prasad Kashyap wrote: > >>> While a part of me seems to agree with you that we should remove the > >>> zip file from the samples' wiki pages, a greater part of me feels > >>> that > >>> we may be forcing some our users to now get SVN. > >>> > >>> A user who just downloads and installs from a binary server will > >>> have > >>> no need for svn. But just to get to the samples, he now has to get > >>> SVN. > >>> > >>> Then he has to get maven to play with the samples. So we are making > >>> him jump thro' many hoops just to see our prized samples. > >>> > >>> Hmm.. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Prasad > >>> > >>> On 10/29/07, Jarek Gawor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One other question -- should we try to have parity between > > what's in > > samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are > > there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? > > > >http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html > >http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ > > > Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The > wiki > documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) > and > all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I > would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the > wiki and > instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. > > Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or > close to) > when we release Geronimo. > > Jarek > > > >>> > >>> > >> > >
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
Then why not make this a real release, with a bin and src zip/tar like we do for the server? -Donald Prasad Kashyap wrote: While a part of me seems to agree with you that we should remove the zip file from the samples' wiki pages, a greater part of me feels that we may be forcing some our users to now get SVN. A user who just downloads and installs from a binary server will have no need for svn. But just to get to the samples, he now has to get SVN. Then he has to get maven to play with the samples. So we are making him jump thro' many hoops just to see our prized samples. Hmm.. Cheers Prasad On 10/29/07, Jarek Gawor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) when we release Geronimo. Jarek smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
When I mentioned "parity" between svn and the wiki I really meant to stress the same stuff showing both locations, which I think Jarek's suggestion would help achieve.Another idea would be to build and deploy the samples using maven. Then we could point the wiki page at the maven repo for both the compiled binary and for the source.zip (which is automatically created by maven). Best wishes, Paul On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Jarek Gawor wrote: Binary files in wiki and source in svn? That works for me. Jarek On 10/29/07, Erik B. Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Prasad, I have put some thought into this myself and agree with you. It would be too much of a hassle for users, I think, if they have to download subversion and maven along with the sample app, and THEN compile it before attempting to deploy it. Probably the best thing would be to have 'releases' or snapshots of the sample apps up on the wiki, along with the source being in the subversion repo. -Erik Prasad Kashyap wrote: While a part of me seems to agree with you that we should remove the zip file from the samples' wiki pages, a greater part of me feels that we may be forcing some our users to now get SVN. A user who just downloads and installs from a binary server will have no need for svn. But just to get to the samples, he now has to get SVN. Then he has to get maven to play with the samples. So we are making him jump thro' many hoops just to see our prized samples. Hmm.. Cheers Prasad On 10/29/07, Jarek Gawor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) when we release Geronimo. Jarek
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
Binary files in wiki and source in svn? That works for me. Jarek On 10/29/07, Erik B. Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Prasad, > I have put some thought into this myself and agree with you. It would be > too much of a hassle for users, I think, if they have to download > subversion and maven along with the sample app, and THEN compile it > before attempting to deploy it. Probably the best thing would be to have > 'releases' or snapshots of the sample apps up on the wiki, along with > the source being in the subversion repo. > > > -Erik > > Prasad Kashyap wrote: > > While a part of me seems to agree with you that we should remove the > > zip file from the samples' wiki pages, a greater part of me feels that > > we may be forcing some our users to now get SVN. > > > > A user who just downloads and installs from a binary server will have > > no need for svn. But just to get to the samples, he now has to get > > SVN. > > > > Then he has to get maven to play with the samples. So we are making > > him jump thro' many hoops just to see our prized samples. > > > > Hmm.. > > > > Cheers > > Prasad > > > > On 10/29/07, Jarek Gawor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in > >>> samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are > >>> there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? > >>> > >>>http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html > >>>http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ > >>> > >> Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki > >> documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and > >> all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I > >> would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and > >> instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. > >> > >> Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) > >> when we release Geronimo. > >> > >> Jarek > >> > >> > > > > >
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
Prasad, I have put some thought into this myself and agree with you. It would be too much of a hassle for users, I think, if they have to download subversion and maven along with the sample app, and THEN compile it before attempting to deploy it. Probably the best thing would be to have 'releases' or snapshots of the sample apps up on the wiki, along with the source being in the subversion repo. -Erik Prasad Kashyap wrote: While a part of me seems to agree with you that we should remove the zip file from the samples' wiki pages, a greater part of me feels that we may be forcing some our users to now get SVN. A user who just downloads and installs from a binary server will have no need for svn. But just to get to the samples, he now has to get SVN. Then he has to get maven to play with the samples. So we are making him jump thro' many hoops just to see our prized samples. Hmm.. Cheers Prasad On 10/29/07, Jarek Gawor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) when we release Geronimo. Jarek
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
Paul, I can help you do this. Cheers Prasad On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 28, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > Any thoughts on setting up automated builds of Samples at least > > once a week? > > That would be helpful. Now that we have catalog support in car-maven- > plugin we could also automatically update the online plugins catalog > as well. This would require some coordination around building server/ > trunk and samples/trunk.Basically: > 1.) build server/trunk > 2.) build samples/trunk > 3.) run a script on ~/.m2/repository/geronimo-plugins.xml to remove > references to the local repo > 4.) svn commit site/trunk/docs/plugins/geronimo-x.x/geronimo- > plugins.xml > > I can help with a perl script for #3 if someone more savvy with build > automation wants to look further into this. > > One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in > samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are > there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? > >http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html >http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ > > > Best wishes, > Paul > >
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
While a part of me seems to agree with you that we should remove the zip file from the samples' wiki pages, a greater part of me feels that we may be forcing some our users to now get SVN. A user who just downloads and installs from a binary server will have no need for svn. But just to get to the samples, he now has to get SVN. Then he has to get maven to play with the samples. So we are making him jump thro' many hoops just to see our prized samples. Hmm.. Cheers Prasad On 10/29/07, Jarek Gawor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in > > samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are > > there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? > > > >http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html > >http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ > > Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki > documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and > all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I > would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and > instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. > > Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) > when we release Geronimo. > > Jarek >
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
On 10/29/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in > samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are > there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? > >http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html >http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ Yes, definitely. That was the goal for 2.0 samples at least. The wiki documentation should be up to date (expect the artifact version) and all the code in wiki should be in the samples svn. If anything, I would like to remove the attached sample .zip files from the wiki and instead direct the users to checkout the sample code from svn. Also, I think we should release samples at the same time (or close to) when we release Geronimo. Jarek
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
On 10/28/07, Donald Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, maybe a samples project under the server testsuite dir that > verifies each sample can be installed and functions? +1 to tests but I would rather put them somewhere with the samples. Jarek
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
On Oct 28, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Donald Woods wrote: Any thoughts on setting up automated builds of Samples at least once a week? That would be helpful. Now that we have catalog support in car-maven- plugin we could also automatically update the online plugins catalog as well. This would require some coordination around building server/ trunk and samples/trunk.Basically: 1.) build server/trunk 2.) build samples/trunk 3.) run a script on ~/.m2/repository/geronimo-plugins.xml to remove references to the local repo 4.) svn commit site/trunk/docs/plugins/geronimo-x.x/geronimo- plugins.xml I can help with a perl script for #3 if someone more savvy with build automation wants to look further into this. One other question -- should we try to have parity between what's in samples/trunk and what's in the samples section of the wiki? Are there barriers, technical or otherwise, that make this difficult? http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/index.html http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/samples/trunk/ Best wishes, Paul
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
Cool, thanks. Any thoughts on setting up automated builds of Samples at least once a week? Also, maybe a samples project under the server testsuite dir that verifies each sample can be installed and functions? -Donald Jarek Gawor wrote: This should be fixed now plus some other things I've found (i.e. licenses). Jarek On 10/27/07, Donald Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe there a couple samples still using org.apache.geronimo.applications instead of the new org.apache.geronimo.samples groupId -Donald Paul McMahan wrote: Jarek helped on GERONIMO-2784 by moving the samples from server/trunk to samples/trunk. Now I would like to deploy those samples to the ASF snapshot repo so they can still be downloaded/installed from Geronimo's plugin catalog.This notification starts a 3 day lazy consensus timer for the PMC before I will deploy the snapshots to their new location in the ASF snapshot repo.Up until now the samples have been voted on and deployed concurrently with the server.See the JIRA for details. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2784 Best wishes, Paul smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
This should be fixed now plus some other things I've found (i.e. licenses). Jarek On 10/27/07, Donald Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe there a couple samples still using > org.apache.geronimo.applications instead of the new > org.apache.geronimo.samples groupId > > -Donald > > Paul McMahan wrote: > > Jarek helped on GERONIMO-2784 by moving the samples from server/trunk to > > samples/trunk. Now I would like to deploy those samples to the ASF > > snapshot repo so they can still be downloaded/installed from Geronimo's > > plugin catalog.This notification starts a 3 day lazy consensus timer > > for the PMC before I will deploy the snapshots to their new location in > > the ASF snapshot repo.Up until now the samples have been voted on > > and deployed concurrently with the server.See the JIRA for details. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2784 > > > > Best wishes, > > Paul > > > >
Re: deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
I believe there a couple samples still using org.apache.geronimo.applications instead of the new org.apache.geronimo.samples groupId -Donald Paul McMahan wrote: Jarek helped on GERONIMO-2784 by moving the samples from server/trunk to samples/trunk. Now I would like to deploy those samples to the ASF snapshot repo so they can still be downloaded/installed from Geronimo's plugin catalog.This notification starts a 3 day lazy consensus timer for the PMC before I will deploy the snapshots to their new location in the ASF snapshot repo.Up until now the samples have been voted on and deployed concurrently with the server.See the JIRA for details. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2784 Best wishes, Paul smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
deploying snapshots of the samples to a new location in m2-snapshot-repo
Jarek helped on GERONIMO-2784 by moving the samples from server/trunk to samples/trunk. Now I would like to deploy those samples to the ASF snapshot repo so they can still be downloaded/installed from Geronimo's plugin catalog.This notification starts a 3 day lazy consensus timer for the PMC before I will deploy the snapshots to their new location in the ASF snapshot repo.Up until now the samples have been voted on and deployed concurrently with the server.See the JIRA for details. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2784 Best wishes, Paul
