Re: Moving Apache Harmony to the Attic
On 29/10/2011 10:02, Tim Ellison wrote: I will start a vote (on a new thread) for you to express your opinion. Last call for votes -- please either cast your vote now on the voting thread, or let me know you want more time. Regards, Tim
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
+1. Great to have known everyone... --Prashanth On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Mark Hindess mark.hind...@googlemail.comwrote: +1 -Mark. In message 4eabc17d.5000...@gmail.com, Tim Ellison writes: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
+1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
+1 Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months... On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt alex.blew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
Hello, I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive. maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it). Mail from last year : http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more easely. Don't let all this work go to waste. See it as a gift to the community :) . johann sorel -Original Message- From: mikhail.a.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:54:28 +0400 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic +1 Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months... On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt alex.blew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
Personally, I think the Apache License is as close to public domain you can come, since PD is not universally defined across jurisdictions. The no right to trademarks and give us some credit obligations will not stop anybody from using it. Cheers Niclas On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM, johann Sorel sorel.joh...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive. maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it). Mail from last year : http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more easely. Don't let all this work go to waste. See it as a gift to the community :) . johann sorel -Original Message- From: mikhail.a.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:54:28 +0400 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic +1 Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months... On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt alex.blew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk I work here; http://tinyurl.com/6a2pl4j I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
Everyone preach for it's own license preference, it's not the place to debate on this subject. I personally had a bad experience with opensolaris when oracle changed the license and 'stole' free developers work (I see it this way). more than the license the ©Copyright is like a Sword of Damocles waiting in the dark. I trust the apache foundation but still we don't know what the futur will be. Until a projet is under public domain I don't consider it truly Free. If you think the apache license is so close to public domain then it should not be a problem ? The decision is not mine, and probably some contributor to harmony like IBM will have a word on this, or is it the PMC decision only ? johann sorel -Original Message- From: nic...@hedhman.org Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:35:37 +0800 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic Personally, I think the Apache License is as close to public domain you can come, since PD is not universally defined across jurisdictions. The no right to trademarks and give us some credit obligations will not stop anybody from using it. Cheers Niclas On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM, johann Sorel sorel.joh...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive. maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it). Mail from last year : http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more easely. Don't let all this work go to waste. See it as a gift to the community :) . johann sorel -Original Message- From: mikhail.a.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:54:28 +0400 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic +1 Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months... On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt alex.blew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk I work here; http://tinyurl.com/6a2pl4j I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug Send your photos by email in seconds... TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3 Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks.
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM, johann Sorel sorel.joh...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive. maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it). Mail from last year : http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more easely. Don't let all this work go to waste. See it as a gift to the community :) . With my personal support to this idea. Thanks, xiaofeng johann sorel -Original Message- From: mikhail.a.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:54:28 +0400 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic +1 Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months... On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt alex.blew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 -- http://people.apache.org/~xli
Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:31 PM, johann Sorel sorel.joh...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive. maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it). +1 for moving the project under public domain Mail from last year : http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more easely. Don't let all this work go to waste. See it as a gift to the community :) . johann sorel -Original Message- From: mikhail.a.mar...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:54:28 +0400 To: dev@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic +1 Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months... On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt alex.blew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship (commercial or otherwise), the project has probably drawn to a close. On 29 Oct 2011, at 10:03, Tim Ellison wrote: Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic. [+1] Move Harmony to the Attic [ 0] Don't care [-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Thanks, Tim Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 Thanks --Melan
