A face-lift for 1.0
Heya, In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because the project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like it's from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap [0] so that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or something pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it easier for someone who is to help us out. For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing docbook part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with the CSS? -n [0]: http://getbootstrap.com [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
+1 on the face-lift initiative. On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > Heya, > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because the > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like it's > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap [0] so > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or something > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing docbook > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with the > CSS? > > -n > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Sounds great. Enis On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ted Yu wrote: > +1 on the face-lift initiative. > > On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > > > Heya, > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because the > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like it's > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap [0] > so > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or something > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing docbook > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with the > > CSS? > > > > -n > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Let me know if you need or want any help. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote: > Sounds great. > > Enis > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ted Yu wrote: > > > +1 on the face-lift initiative. > > > > On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because > the > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like > it's > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap > [0] > > so > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or > something > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing > docbook > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with > the > > > CSS? > > > > > > -n > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
+1 I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, and one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the Cassandra documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) -- Lars From: Nick Dimiduk To: hbase-dev Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 Heya, In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because the project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like it's from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap [0] so that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or something pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it easier for someone who is to help us out. For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing docbook part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with the CSS? -n [0]: http://getbootstrap.com [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. -ryan On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl wrote: > +1 > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, and one > of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the Cassandra > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) > > -- Lars > From: Nick Dimiduk > To: hbase-dev > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > Heya, > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because the > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like it's > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap [0] so > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or something > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing docbook > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with the > CSS? > > -n > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going on a while... was wondering if any progress. Grand, St.Ack On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson wrote: > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > -ryan > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl wrote: > > +1 > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, and > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the Cassandra > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) > > > > -- Lars > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > To: hbase-dev > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > Heya, > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because the > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like it's > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap [0] > so > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or something > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing docbook > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with the > > CSS? > > > > -n > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes that are ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based layout for our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves the looks of things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel in the future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book wasn't getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd like to update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting styles into docbook is proving non-trivial. Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready for a site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow morning unless I hear actionable objections. You can get a preview of things to come over one http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ Thanks, Nick On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going on a > while... was wondering if any progress. > Grand, > St.Ack > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson wrote: > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > -ryan > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl wrote: > > > +1 > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, and > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the Cassandra > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) > > > > > > -- Lars > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > To: hbase-dev > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our act a > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because > the > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like > it's > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap > [0] > > so > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or > something > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make it > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing > docbook > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with > the > > > CSS? > > > > > > -n > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Nice. User API points to: http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/apidocs/index.html which corresponds to unreleased snapshot. Should link to 0.98 / 1.0 be added somewhere ? Cheers On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > > For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes that are > ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based layout for > our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves the looks of > things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel in the > future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book wasn't > getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd like to > update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting styles into > docbook is proving non-trivial. > > Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready for a > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow morning > unless I hear actionable objections. > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > Thanks, > Nick > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going on a > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > Grand, > > St.Ack > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson wrote: > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl > wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, > and > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the > Cassandra > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our > act a > > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because > > the > > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like > > it's > > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap > > [0] > > > so > > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or > > something > > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make > it > > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing > > docbook > > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with > > the > > > > CSS? > > > > > > > > -n > > > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Absolutely fantastic!!! Got pointers to how tweaking the website would work? In the new year I hope to really get started on a restructure of the Ref Guide. I've thought about asking to move to AsciiDOC or MarkDown but I'd like to do a proof-of-concept and see if it really gets us anything we don't already have with Docbook. It's less of a potential value since we are not hosted on Github, which has great integration with AsciiDOC and MarkDown. I'm very interested in improving the look and feel of the doc. I think a lot of it will be structural -- reorganizing and re-chunking content. In the meantime, theming the Docbook is not as hard as you might think. Have a look at the XSLT files. (I know, famous last words). On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes that are > ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based layout for > our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves the looks of > things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel in the > future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book wasn't > getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd like to > update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting styles into > docbook is proving non-trivial. > > Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready for a > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow morning > unless I hear actionable objections. > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > Thanks, > Nick > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going on a > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > Grand, > > St.Ack > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson wrote: > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl > wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, > and > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the > Cassandra > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our > act a > > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because > > the > > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like > > it's > > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap > > [0] > > > so > > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or > > something > > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would make > it > > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing > > docbook > > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this > > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out with > > the > > > > CSS? > > > > > > > > -n > > > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
The beautiful new site is live! Thanks, Nick! On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Misty Stanley-Jones < mstanleyjo...@cloudera.com> wrote: > Absolutely fantastic!!! Got pointers to how tweaking the website would > work? > > In the new year I hope to really get started on a restructure of the Ref > Guide. I've thought about asking to move to AsciiDOC or MarkDown but I'd > like to do a proof-of-concept and see if it really gets us anything we > don't already have with Docbook. It's less of a potential value since we > are not hosted on Github, which has great integration with AsciiDOC and > MarkDown. I'm very interested in improving the look and feel of the doc. I > think a lot of it will be structural -- reorganizing and re-chunking > content. > > In the meantime, theming the Docbook is not as hard as you might think. > Have a look at the XSLT files. (I know, famous last words). > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > >> For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes that are >> ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based layout >> for >> our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves the looks >> of >> things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel in the >> future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book wasn't >> getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd like to >> update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting styles >> into >> docbook is proving non-trivial. >> >> Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready for a >> site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow morning >> unless I hear actionable objections. >> >> You can get a preview of things to come over one >> http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ >> >> Thanks, >> Nick >> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: >> > >> > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going on a >> > while... was wondering if any progress. >> > Grand, >> > St.Ack >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson >> wrote: >> > >> > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The >> > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the >> > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. >> > > >> > > -ryan >> > > >> > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl >> wrote: >> > > > +1 >> > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, >> and >> > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the >> Cassandra >> > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) >> > > > >> > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't hurt) >> > > > >> > > > -- Lars >> > > > From: Nick Dimiduk >> > > > To: hbase-dev >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM >> > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 >> > > > >> > > > Heya, >> > > > >> > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our >> act a >> > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just because >> > the >> > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks like >> > it's >> > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. >> > > > >> > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to bootstrap >> > [0] >> > > so >> > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or >> > something >> > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would >> make it >> > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. >> > > > >> > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of changing >> > docbook >> > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on this >> > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. >> > > > >> > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help out >> with >> > the >> > > > CSS? >> > > > >> > > > -n >> > > > >> > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com >> > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ >> > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Misty Stanley-Jones < mstanleyjo...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > The beautiful new site is live! Thanks, Nick! > > Thanks Nick -- looks good (and Misty for pushing). St.Ack
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Tweaking the layout of the website goes one of two ways. Either there's a configuration point exposed from the maven skin or there isn't. If there is, it's simply editing the appropriate custom tag in site.xml. If not, we'll need to bring back the velocity site.vm template. Configurations are documented here: http://andriusvelykis.github.io/reflow-maven-skin/skin/config.html Tweaking visuals is now based on the theme. We can either choose another bootswatch theme, or write our own. That stuff is documented here: http://andriusvelykis.github.io/reflow-maven-skin/skin/themes/ Right now the site is separate from the book. In theory we could move book content over to become site content, in which case it would be managed by this same plugin. Short of that, we get into applying style via the docbook plugin. I've looked into this a bit; it's not nearly as easy as applying reflow-maven-skin. The current leads I have for this are https://github.com/lcahlander/docbook and https://github.com/pmartin/phing-documentation-docbook/commit/8d8f0b81951c4e07420083b204599a6b9ef00537 . Honestly though, if we're looking at moving away from docbook, I think we should consider a more modern toolset, Sphinx-doc, for example: http://sphinx-doc.org On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Misty Stanley-Jones < mstanleyjo...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > Absolutely fantastic!!! Got pointers to how tweaking the website would > work? > > In the new year I hope to really get started on a restructure of the Ref > Guide. I've thought about asking to move to AsciiDOC or MarkDown but I'd > like to do a proof-of-concept and see if it really gets us anything we > don't already have with Docbook. It's less of a potential value since we > are not hosted on Github, which has great integration with AsciiDOC and > MarkDown. I'm very interested in improving the look and feel of the doc. I > think a lot of it will be structural -- reorganizing and re-chunking > content. > > In the meantime, theming the Docbook is not as hard as you might think. > Have a look at the XSLT files. (I know, famous last words). > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > > > For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes that are > > ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based layout > for > > our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves the looks > of > > things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel in the > > future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book wasn't > > getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd like to > > update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting styles > into > > docbook is proving non-trivial. > > > > Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready for a > > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow morning > > unless I hear actionable objections. > > > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going on a > > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > > Grand, > > > St.Ack > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra articles, > > and > > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the > > Cassandra > > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't > hurt) > > > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up our > &
Re: A face-lift for 1.0
Not sure if this is something to address in this thread or if I should file a separate JIRA, but for some reason, accessing the site over https gets rid of the pretty CSS. Seems to happen in Chrome and Firefox. Anyone have a clue why? -Dima On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > Tweaking the layout of the website goes one of two ways. Either there's a > configuration point exposed from the maven skin or there isn't. If there > is, it's simply editing the appropriate custom tag in site.xml. If not, > we'll need to bring back the velocity site.vm template. Configurations are > documented here: > http://andriusvelykis.github.io/reflow-maven-skin/skin/config.html > > Tweaking visuals is now based on the theme. We can either choose another > bootswatch theme, or write our own. That stuff is documented here: > http://andriusvelykis.github.io/reflow-maven-skin/skin/themes/ > > Right now the site is separate from the book. In theory we could move book > content over to become site content, in which case it would be managed by > this same plugin. Short of that, we get into applying style via the docbook > plugin. I've looked into this a bit; it's not nearly as easy as applying > reflow-maven-skin. The current leads I have for this are > https://github.com/lcahlander/docbook and > > https://github.com/pmartin/phing-documentation-docbook/commit/8d8f0b81951c4e07420083b204599a6b9ef00537 > . > > Honestly though, if we're looking at moving away from docbook, I think we > should consider a more modern toolset, Sphinx-doc, for example: > http://sphinx-doc.org > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Misty Stanley-Jones < > mstanleyjo...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > > > Absolutely fantastic!!! Got pointers to how tweaking the website would > > work? > > > > In the new year I hope to really get started on a restructure of the Ref > > Guide. I've thought about asking to move to AsciiDOC or MarkDown but I'd > > like to do a proof-of-concept and see if it really gets us anything we > > don't already have with Docbook. It's less of a potential value since we > > are not hosted on Github, which has great integration with AsciiDOC and > > MarkDown. I'm very interested in improving the look and feel of the doc. > I > > think a lot of it will be structural -- reorganizing and re-chunking > > content. > > > > In the meantime, theming the Docbook is not as hard as you might think. > > Have a look at the XSLT files. (I know, famous last words). > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Nick Dimiduk > wrote: > > > > > For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes that are > > > ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based layout > > for > > > our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves the > looks > > of > > > things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel in the > > > future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book wasn't > > > getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd like to > > > update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting styles > > into > > > docbook is proving non-trivial. > > > > > > Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready for > a > > > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow morning > > > unless I hear actionable objections. > > > > > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > > > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Nick > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been going > on a > > > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > > > Grand, > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > > > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > > > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl > > > wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra > articles,
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ing if any progress. > > > > > Grand, > > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. The > > > > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from the > > > > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra > > articles, > > > > and > > > > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the > > > > Cassandra > > > > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely won't > > > hurt) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up > our > > > > act a > > > > > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just > > > because > > > > > the > > > > > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that looks > > like > > > > > it's > > > > > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to > > > bootstrap > > > > > [0] > > > > > > so > > > > > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own or > > > > > something > > > > > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this would > > > make > > > > it > > > > > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of > changing > > > > > docbook > > > > > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure on > > > this > > > > > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help > out > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > CSS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > > > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > > > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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yway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're ready > > for > > > a > > > > > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow > > morning > > > > > unless I hear actionable objections. > > > > > > > > > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been > going > > > on a > > > > > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > > > > > Grand, > > > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. > The > > > > > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from > the > > > > > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl < > la...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra > > > articles, > > > > > and > > > > > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better the > > > > > Cassandra > > > > > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely > won't > > > > hurt) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean up > > our > > > > > act a > > > > > > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. Just > > > > because > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that > looks > > > like > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to > > > > bootstrap > > > > > > [0] > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own > or > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this > would > > > > make > > > > > it > > > > > > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of > > changing > > > > > > docbook > > > > > > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less sure > on > > > > this > > > > > > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can help > > out > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > CSS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > > > > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > > > > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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y in JIRAland, I've two changes > that > > > are > > > > > > ready to go. First, there's transition over to a bootstrap-based > > > layout > > > > > for > > > > > > our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves > the > > > > looks > > > > > of > > > > > > things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel > in > > > the > > > > > > future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book > > wasn't > > > > > > getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd > like > > > to > > > > > > update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting > > > styles > > > > > into > > > > > > docbook is proving non-trivial. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're > ready > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow > > > morning > > > > > > unless I hear actionable objections. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been > > going > > > > on a > > > > > > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > > > > > > Grand, > > > > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson < > ryano...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. > > The > > > > > > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site from > > the > > > > > > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl < > > la...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra > > > > articles, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better > the > > > > > > Cassandra > > > > > > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely > > won't > > > > > hurt) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > > > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > > > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should clean > up > > > our > > > > > > act a > > > > > > > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. > Just > > > > > because > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that > > looks > > > > like > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over to > > > > > bootstrap > > > > > > > [0] > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our own > > or > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this > > would > > > > > make > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of > > > changing > > > > > > > docbook > > > > > > > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less > sure > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can > help > > > out > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > CSS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > > > > > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > > > > > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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t; > and > > > > > > MarkDown. I'm very interested in improving the look and feel of > the > > > > doc. > > > > > I > > > > > > think a lot of it will be structural -- reorganizing and > > re-chunking > > > > > > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, theming the Docbook is not as hard as you might > > > think. > > > > > > Have a look at the XSLT files. (I know, famous last words). > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Nick Dimiduk < > ndimi...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > For those not following closely in JIRAland, I've two changes > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > ready to go. First, there's transition over to a > bootstrap-based > > > > layout > > > > > > for > > > > > > > our home page. This work is done in HBASE-12688. This improves > > the > > > > > looks > > > > > > of > > > > > > > things and will make it pretty easy to update our look-and-feel > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > future. Second, I fixed a build problem where the online book > > > wasn't > > > > > > > getting its intended styling. This is done in HBASE-12687. I'd > > like > > > > to > > > > > > > update the book to look the same as the front-page, but getting > > > > styles > > > > > > into > > > > > > > docbook is proving non-trivial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, both of these changes are pushed to master and we're > > ready > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > site re-build with the new look. I'll make that happen tomorrow > > > > morning > > > > > > > unless I hear actionable objections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can get a preview of things to come over one > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~ndimiduk/site/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Stack > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I've been having a dialog w/ your crew that has been > > > going > > > > > on a > > > > > > > > while... was wondering if any progress. > > > > > > > > Grand, > > > > > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ryan Rawson < > > ryano...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm checking to see if our marketing and web team can help. > > > The > > > > > > > > > primary requirement is going to be ditching the mvn:site > from > > > the > > > > > > > > > front page. "reskinning it" might not be so easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, lars hofhansl < > > > la...@apache.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > I just came across one of the various HBase vs. Cassandra > > > > > articles, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > one of the main tenants of the articles was how much better > > the > > > > > > > Cassandra > > > > > > > > > documentation was.Thank god we have Misty now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure how much just a skin would help, but it surely > > > won't > > > > > > hurt) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lars > > > > > > > > > > From: Nick Dimiduk > > > > > > > > > > To: hbase-dev > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: A face-lift for 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In mind of the new release, I was thinking we should > clean > > up > > > > our > > > > > > > act a > > > > > > > > > > little bit in regard to hbase.apache.org and our book. > > Just > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > project started in 2007 doesn't mean we need a site that > > > looks > > > > > like > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > from 2007. Phoenix's site looks great in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the home page, I was thinking of converting it over > to > > > > > > bootstrap > > > > > > > > [0] > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > that it'll be easier to pick up theme, either on of our > own > > > or > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > pre-canned [1]. I'm no web designer, but the idea is this > > > would > > > > > > make > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > easier for someone who is to help us out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the book, I just want to skin it -- no intention of > > > > changing > > > > > > > > docbook > > > > > > > > > > part (such a decision I'll leave up to Misty). I'm less > > sure > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > project, but Riak's docs are a nice inspiration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do we know any web designers who can > > help > > > > out > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > CSS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [0]: http://getbootstrap.com > > > > > > > > > > [1]: https://wrapbootstrap.com/ > > > > > > > > > > [2]: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
