Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
* André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Enrico Weigelt wrote: * André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. how does it answer my question ? It gives you a piece of information, that you perhaps didn't know yet. Here's another one: expat is bundled with apr-util. I already knew that maintaining own branches for just a single client package someday makes troubles - in case you meant this. zlib is optional. So is openssl. right. and thats good. why not the same with expat and pcre ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- -
Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. nd
Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 05:43:58AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big_snip / Hi folks, Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ?! I personally *always* use sysetm libs instead of bundled libs when some packages do such bundling. But I'm really unhappy that apache2's configure does not provide an option for doing that on pcre. Especially in embedded systems (which is one of my focuses) its an really unnecessary wastal of resources. Why isn't there an option for using system's pcre ? Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27550 http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=13377 Rich. -- Richard Jones. http://www.annexia.org/ http://www.j-london.com/ http://www.team-notepad.com/ - collaboration tools for teams Merjis Ltd. http://www.merjis.com/ - improving website return on investment Learn Objective CAML - http://www.merjis.com/developers signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
* Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27550 Doesnt answer the question, instead clearly showing in what trouble we run when doing such silly things like bundling own branches of foreign packages. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=13377 Okay, I'll try it. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- -
Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
* André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. how does it answer my question ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- -
Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: * André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. how does it answer my question ? It gives you a piece of information, that you perhaps didn't know yet. Here's another one: expat is bundled with apr-util. zlib is optional. So is openssl. nd
Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]
* Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big_snip / Hi folks, Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ?! I personally *always* use sysetm libs instead of bundled libs when some packages do such bundling. But I'm really unhappy that apache2's configure does not provide an option for doing that on pcre. Especially in embedded systems (which is one of my focuses) its an really unnecessary wastal of resources. Why isn't there an option for using system's pcre ? Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cellphone: +49 174 7066481 - -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- -
Re: A zLib Update....?
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:53 PM +1100 NormW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the recent upgrade of PCRE for Apache 2.1.x, I was curious if zLib (required for mod_deflate) is mandated at 1.1.4 or could it also be 'updated' to the 1.2.1 release (available since Nov'03). A 2.1 build on Windows for NetWare shows it glues together without issue; are there any test scripts that one might use to see if it works as expected? We don't bundle zlib. So, there's nothing for us to do. Or, do the Win32 folks perhaps bundle it? But, Unix only works off an external zlib. -- justin . Good afternoon Justin, Thanks for the feedback. Knew the zLib wasn't part of the kit, but up until now, I'd beeen aimed at using zLib 1.1.4 for the build process, and only a little while ago did it occur to me to question why I/it wasn't using the most recent build. So it might be a platform specific issue (if indeed it is one at all). Will look elsewhere for a resolution. Thanks. Norm
Re: A zLib Update....?
At 01:57 AM 11/30/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:53 PM +1100 NormW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the recent upgrade of PCRE for Apache 2.1.x, I was curious if zLib (required for mod_deflate) is mandated at 1.1.4 or could it also be 'updated' to the 1.2.1 release (available since Nov'03). A 2.1 build on Windows for NetWare shows it glues together without issue; are there any test scripts that one might use to see if it works as expected? We don't bundle zlib. So, there's nothing for us to do. Or, do the Win32 folks perhaps bundle it? But, Unix only works off an external zlib. -- And win32 httpd-2.0 builds only with 1.1.x sources. httpd-2.1 builds against the zdll1.lib (and requires zlib1.dll), e.g. 1.2.2. Since zlib1.dll is an 'official format' now - when httpd 2.2 is released and a hole is found, the user can obtain zlib1.dll right from their web site rather than waiting for the 'next' httpd rel. Bill
Re: A zLib Update....?
NetWare builds against either 1.1.x or 1.2.x. It just depends on where you point the ZLIBSDK environment variable at compile time. Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:52:58 AM At 01:57 AM 11/30/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:53 PM +1100 NormW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the recent upgrade of PCRE for Apache 2.1.x, I was curious if zLib (required for mod_deflate) is mandated at 1.1.4 or could it also be 'updated' to the 1.2.1 release (available since Nov'03). A 2.1 build on Windows for NetWare shows it glues together without issue; are there any test scripts that one might use to see if it works as expected? We don't bundle zlib. So, there's nothing for us to do. Or, do the Win32 folks perhaps bundle it? But, Unix only works off an external zlib. -- And win32 httpd-2.0 builds only with 1.1.x sources. httpd-2.1 builds against the zdll1.lib (and requires zlib1.dll), e.g. 1.2.2. Since zlib1.dll is an 'official format' now - when httpd 2.2 is released and a hole is found, the user can obtain zlib1.dll right from their web site rather than waiting for the 'next' httpd rel. Bill
A zLib Update....?
Greetings All. With the recent upgrade of PCRE for Apache 2.1.x, I was curious if zLib (required for mod_deflate) is mandated at 1.1.4 or could it also be 'updated' to the 1.2.1 release (available since Nov'03). A 2.1 build on Windows for NetWare shows it glues together without issue; are there any test scripts that one might use to see if it works as expected? Norm
Re: A zLib Update....?
--On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:53 PM +1100 NormW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the recent upgrade of PCRE for Apache 2.1.x, I was curious if zLib (required for mod_deflate) is mandated at 1.1.4 or could it also be 'updated' to the 1.2.1 release (available since Nov'03). A 2.1 build on Windows for NetWare shows it glues together without issue; are there any test scripts that one might use to see if it works as expected? We don't bundle zlib. So, there's nothing for us to do. Or, do the Win32 folks perhaps bundle it? But, Unix only works off an external zlib. -- justin
