RE: 2.0.35 related: Website tweak, upgrade apache.org servers

2002-04-06 Thread Mladen Turk



 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Striker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 1:23 PM

 http://httpd.apache.org still shows:

 Apache 1.3.24 is the best version of Apache currently available;
  everyone running 1.2.X servers or earlier are strongly urged to
  upgrade to 1.3, as there will not be any further 1.2.X releases.
  At present, the Win32 port of Apache is not as stable as the UNIX
  version.

 We probably want to demote 1.3 a bit.


What bothers me is the statement the Win32 port of Apache is not as stable
as the UNIX version.

Are there any chances to get rid of that (IMO stupid) Win32 port warning
stuffs.
If the Win32 port is not as stable as the UNIX one, how the stable is UNIX
Solaris compared to UNIX AIX, UNIX Linux, etc...

And on the other hand what is the Win32 port? Is it Windows 95, Windows NT
4, 2000, or XP?

MT.




RE: 2.0.35 related: Website tweak, upgrade apache.org servers

2002-04-06 Thread Sander Striker

 From: Mladen Turk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 April 2002 13:53

  http://httpd.apache.org still shows:
 
  Apache 1.3.24 is the best version of Apache currently available;
   everyone running 1.2.X servers or earlier are strongly urged to
   upgrade to 1.3, as there will not be any further 1.2.X releases.
   At present, the Win32 port of Apache is not as stable as the UNIX
   version.
 
  We probably want to demote 1.3 a bit.
 
 
 What bothers me is the statement the Win32 port of Apache is not as stable
 as the UNIX version.

This is not in the 2.0 part of the page.  This only goes for 1.3.  In the
2.0 section:

This version of Apache is known to work on many versions of Unix, BeOS, OS/2,
 Windows, and Netware. Because of many of the advancements in Apache 2.0, the
 initial release of Apache is expected to perform equally well on all supported
 platforms
 
 Are there any chances to get rid of that (IMO stupid) Win32 port warning
 stuffs.

No need, there is no warning ;)

 If the Win32 port is not as stable as the UNIX one, how the stable is UNIX
 Solaris compared to UNIX AIX, UNIX Linux, etc...

See above.

 And on the other hand what is the Win32 port? Is it Windows 95, Windows NT
 4, 2000, or XP?

I think that we can safely assume that Apache 2.0 was targetted at Windows NT 4 and
up.  I personally wouldn't want to have to worry about Windows 9x (for obvious
reasons I think).

 MT.

Sander




RE: 2.0.35 related: Website tweak, upgrade apache.org servers

2002-04-06 Thread Cliff Woolley

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Mladen Turk wrote:

  http://httpd.apache.org still shows:
 
  Apache 1.3.24 is the best version of Apache currently available;
   everyone running 1.2.X servers or earlier are strongly urged to
   upgrade to 1.3, as there will not be any further 1.2.X releases.
   At present, the Win32 port of Apache is not as stable as the UNIX
   version.


Whoops, sorry, forgot to look at that part.  I just removed that whole
paragraph.

--Cliff


--
   Cliff Woolley
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Charlottesville, VA





RE: 2.0.35 related: Website tweak, upgrade apache.org servers

2002-04-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

At 06:18 AM 4/6/2002, you wrote:
  From: Mladen Turk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 06 April 2002 13:53

  What bothers me is the statement the Win32 port of Apache is not as stable
  as the UNIX version.

This is not in the 2.0 part of the page.  This only goes for 1.3.  In the
2.0 section:

This version of Apache is known to work on many versions of Unix, BeOS, OS/2,
  Windows, and Netware. Because of many of the advancements in Apache 2.0, the
  initial release of Apache is expected to perform equally well on all 
 supported
  platforms

Exactly the point.  The 1.3 Win32 port is certainly not as stable or
robust as Unix... that warning [whenever 1.3 is mentioned] is still needed.

  And on the other hand what is the Win32 port? Is it Windows 95, Windows NT
  4, 2000, or XP?

I think that we can safely assume that Apache 2.0 was targetted at Windows 
NT 4 and
up.  I personally wouldn't want to have to worry about Windows 9x (for obvious
reasons I think).

Correct.  Win9x has never been 'supported' [surprize] but we have always taken
the position, if it works for you, great.  Pre-9x won't work at all, 
WinNT 4.0 SP5
or later is required for WinSock2 and some other bugs.  WinXP has a broken
afd.sys that must be patched.  Some 3rd party VPN clients are borked.  So we
can't really say This Just Works on every OS... but hopefully the easier 
query
and filing options in Bugzilla will help folks identify specific problems 
with specific
Win9x or even Netware, OS2 and Unix family kernels.

Bill

Bill