Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting K5 in the Karaf ecosystem

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

IMHO, Camel is slightly different as camel repo is used by camel-k,
camel-quarkus (it's kind of core/common lib).

However, we have a consensus: we don't rename karaf, we just rework
the website to give space to all projects.

If there is no objection, I will start a formal vote tomorrow with:
- create karaf-minho repo
- donate code from my github here
- rework the website

I will start to rename all on my github to use org.apache.karaf.minsho space.

Regards
JB

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:15 AM Grzegorz Grzybek  wrote:
>
> Hello (also a bit late)
>
> niedz., 9 paź 2022 o 12:46 Achim Nierbeck 
> napisał(a):
>
> > a bit late to the party, nevertheless I'm also in favor of making it
> > crystal clear that Karaf is for OSGi and Karaf Minho is the new kid in
> > town.
> >
>
> I agree. Same as with Camel - there's "Camel", "Camel-K" and
> "Camel-Quarkus". Original Camel wasn't renamed ;)
>
> regards
> Grzegorz Grzybek
>
>
> > besides that I'm also in favor of accepting this new runtime into the karaf
> > community.
> >
> > regards, Achim
> >
> > Am So., 9. Okt. 2022 um 09:13 Uhr schrieb Serge Huber :
> >
> > > Sounds good to me.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:50 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's correct.
> > > >
> > > > My proposal is really more for the website and "marketing".
> > > >
> > > > If you go there: https://karaf.apache.org/projects.html
> > > >
> > > > You can see we have:
> > > > - Karaf runtime
> > > > - Karaf cellar
> > > > - Karaf cave
> > > > - Karaf decanter
> > > >
> > > > So, basically, nothing change so much with my proposal. We would have:
> > > > - Karaf OSGi runtime
> > > > - Karaf Minho runtime
> > > > - Karaf Cellar
> > > > - Karaf Cave
> > > > - Karaf Decanter
> > > > - Karaf Winegrower
> > > >
> > > > Each subproject will have a dedicated subsite (with their own
> > > > documentation, etc, ...).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 4:20 PM Steinar Bang  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Eric Lilja :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Because it's shedding its OSGi core, making it optional. It's a
> > > > different
> > > > > > product stack.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I meant: K5 is something different so call it something
> > different,
> > > > > but leave the karaf 4.x line with the name "karaf".
> > > > >
> > > > > (And in a different place in the thread it seems like this is the
> > > > > current plan...?)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Apache Member
> > Apache Karaf  Committer & PMC
> > OPS4J Pax Web  Committer &
> > Project Lead
> > blog 
> > Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook 
> >

Re: [DISCUSS] Accepting K5 in the Karaf ecosystem

[Grzegorz Grzybek]

Hello (also a bit late)

niedz., 9 paź 2022 o 12:46 Achim Nierbeck 
napisał(a):

> a bit late to the party, nevertheless I'm also in favor of making it
> crystal clear that Karaf is for OSGi and Karaf Minho is the new kid in
> town.
>

I agree. Same as with Camel - there's "Camel", "Camel-K" and
"Camel-Quarkus". Original Camel wasn't renamed ;)

regards
Grzegorz Grzybek


> besides that I'm also in favor of accepting this new runtime into the karaf
> community.
>
> regards, Achim
>
> Am So., 9. Okt. 2022 um 09:13 Uhr schrieb Serge Huber :
>
> > Sounds good to me.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:50 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That's correct.
> > >
> > > My proposal is really more for the website and "marketing".
> > >
> > > If you go there: https://karaf.apache.org/projects.html
> > >
> > > You can see we have:
> > > - Karaf runtime
> > > - Karaf cellar
> > > - Karaf cave
> > > - Karaf decanter
> > >
> > > So, basically, nothing change so much with my proposal. We would have:
> > > - Karaf OSGi runtime
> > > - Karaf Minho runtime
> > > - Karaf Cellar
> > > - Karaf Cave
> > > - Karaf Decanter
> > > - Karaf Winegrower
> > >
> > > Each subproject will have a dedicated subsite (with their own
> > > documentation, etc, ...).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 4:20 PM Steinar Bang  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Eric Lilja :
> > > >
> > > > > Because it's shedding its OSGi core, making it optional. It's a
> > > different
> > > > > product stack.
> > > >
> > > > What I meant: K5 is something different so call it something
> different,
> > > > but leave the karaf 4.x line with the name "karaf".
> > > >
> > > > (And in a different place in the thread it seems like this is the
> > > > current plan...?)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Apache Member
> Apache Karaf  Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web  Committer &
> Project Lead
> blog 
> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook 
>