[l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Mechtilde
Hello,


Richard schrieb:
 Charles-H. Schulz escribió:
 Alexandro,

 Le 26/02/10 11:51, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :


 And obviously they knew they would run out of time to integrate it
 before the release. It was RC 5 remember. So far, all this does look
 like if you could only submit your patch at RC 5 level, perhaps the ES
 QA process is somewhat suboptimal.

We should look how to make this process better, esp. for Version 3.3.

Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

So we can plan the time for translation and the time for testing the
integrated translation in April 2010.

This timeline is for *all* native language communities the same.

*After* this time the branch to finish version 3.3 followed.

So we know now (nearly beginning of March 2010) when we need the people
for translation and the following testing.

 I think the thing to do is forget the bickering. And plan how to avoid
 the problem in the future.

see above
 
 Lots of effort goes into getting the translations done in a short amount
 of time with limited resources. 

That is the task for all language groups.

The problem may be that Sun/Oracle is no
 longer building the Spanish OOo in a timely fashion. 

Sun/Oracle build OpenOffice.org in many languages. But the language
groups are responsible for their translation and the quality of them.

I may be wrong but
 that is why I get my instance of OOo via my distro who in turn get it
 from Go-OO.

which contain the same language code.

Kind regards

Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

Lp, m.

2010/2/27 Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de


 Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33



Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Mechtilde
Hello,

Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
 Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
 string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

 Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

These dates are not fixed yet.

But it shows how we can plann the whole QA process.

Actual information are available at Release Status Meeting and their
Minutes.

There is also an IRC #ooonlc at freenode.net

Regards

Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Well, these days should more or less be fixed, at least few weeks before the
string freeze, and only exceptional events could move them.

Lp, m.

2010/2/27 Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de

 Hello,

 Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
  Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
  string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

  Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

 These dates are not fixed yet.

 But it shows how we can plann the whole QA process.

 Actual information are available at Release Status Meeting and their
 Minutes.

 There is also an IRC #ooonlc at freenode.net

 Regards

 Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
And by exceptionaly events I do not mean the inclusion of a CWS with
thousands of new or updated strings (like the help CWS') in the last
milestone of the string freeze - those have always prolonged the translation
time and should be banned as such.

Lp, m.

2010/2/27 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net

 Well, these days should more or less be fixed, at least few weeks before
 the string freeze, and only exceptional events could move them.

 Lp, m.

 2010/2/27 Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de

 Hello,


 Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
  Wasn't this timeline changed just in the last days? I think I remember
  string freeze date a week before? Or maybe I just mixed the numbers.

  Here we can see the planned timeline for version 3.3
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease33

 These dates are not fixed yet.

 But it shows how we can plann the whole QA process.

 Actual information are available at Release Status Meeting and their
 Minutes.

 There is also an IRC #ooonlc at freenode.net

 Regards

 Mechtilde

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Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [native-lang] questions on ES builds

2010-02-27 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Martin,

Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:
 Well, these days should more or less be fixed, at least few weeks before the
 string freeze, and only exceptional events could move them.

They aren't fixed yet.

Please follow the changes of the timelines.

Regards

Mechtilde

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