Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-14 Thread Ivo Hinkelmann

Hi Martin,

there was indeed a communication problem. Also most people here inside 
SUN including me was not aware about this migration module and about the 
impact on the translation.


I asked the developer to communicate about this tool in a blog entry or 
 in mailing list thus everything is clearer what this tools does. So to 
give a short explanation this migration tool there is used to analyse 
microsoft office documents if they might cause problems with our 
openoffice import filters. To use the tool you need a microsoft office 
installation. There is a zip ( MigrationAnalysis.zip ) in the windows 
local bin output tree that contains some vb executable which calls 
microsoft office and ask for a directory where it can find the documents 
it should analyse. The result is written into a Excel sheet.


Cheers,
Ivo

Martin Srebotnjak schrieb:

By the time this question was answered I already completed the
Slovenian translation (if you remember, last third of September is
pretty close to the - previously announced - translation delivery date
and translators do not wait to the last moment to start translating).
And it is strange it takes 3 months to answer this question.

When a large part of text like that is included in the translation
files, someone should notify us it is not intended for translation at
the time it is added and not three months later - what else do the
translation strings do in the sdf file if not waiting for translation?
Will we have to ask for any new po file or even every new string in
the Pootle if it is intended for translation or if it is there just by
mistake? But I am not angry so do not take this personally, please, I
am just pointing to another thing that went wrong in the process of
3.2 localization process/management.

Anyway, Slovenian translation is available if anyone is interested,
just let me know :)

Can someone point me to the executable or the extension of this thing,
I would really like to see how it works with real world files. I mean,
I spent quite some time translating it, now I would at least like to
see this thing in action.

Lp, m.

2009/10/13 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net:


The statement that thismodule needs not to be translated was given on
2009-09-24 (not really quick answer, but there *was* an answer). Later
Rafaella even stated, that the module is not inclded in normal OOo builds
and is rather considered as some knd of extension.

So I don't know, what is the pity we need to speak about?


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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
2009/10/13 Olivier Hallot ohal...@scinergy.com.br:
 Regards,
 (*) I found the lingustic quality of the migration tool below OO
 standards... Am I the only one who catched this?

No, you are not :)

The funny part is - where can the translators even see how this tool looks like?

But obviously this won't be a part of the official 3.2 release, maybe
a freeware extension or what? Or part of StarOffice? :)

Lp, m.

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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Ain Vagula
You can see it in Sun builds. ;)
And yes, the text quality is horrible. As I dont understand half of
this pidgin, I'll leave it untranslated, so or so it is not accessible
in community builds.

Ain

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 17:31, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:
 2009/10/13 Olivier Hallot ohal...@scinergy.com.br:
 Regards,
 (*) I found the lingustic quality of the migration tool below OO
 standards... Am I the only one who catched this?

 No, you are not :)

 The funny part is - where can the translators even see how this tool looks 
 like?

 But obviously this won't be a part of the official 3.2 release, maybe
 a freeware extension or what? Or part of StarOffice? :)

 Lp, m.

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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Ivo Hinkelmann

Hi all,

please do not translate these migration tools, I have some doubts about 
their future. I don't know if or when somebody move this into a 
extension. So please just skip this. If you translated it already, also 
good , but they are not visible in OOo right now.


Cheers,
Ivo

Ain Vagula schrieb:

You can see it in Sun builds. ;)
And yes, the text quality is horrible. As I dont understand half of
this pidgin, I'll leave it untranslated, so or so it is not accessible
in community builds.

Ain

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 17:31, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:

2009/10/13 Olivier Hallot ohal...@scinergy.com.br:

Regards,
(*) I found the lingustic quality of the migration tool below OO
standards... Am I the only one who catched this?

No, you are not :)

The funny part is - where can the translators even see how this tool looks like?

But obviously this won't be a part of the official 3.2 release, maybe
a freeware extension or what? Or part of StarOffice? :)

Lp, m.

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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Well, if Sun sells it, then they have to pay for my translation, I guess :)

Lp, m.

2009/10/13 Ain Vagula avag...@gmail.com:
 You can see it in Sun builds. ;)
 And yes, the text quality is horrible. As I dont understand half of
 this pidgin, I'll leave it untranslated, so or so it is not accessible
 in community builds.

 Ain

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 17:31, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:
 2009/10/13 Olivier Hallot ohal...@scinergy.com.br:
 Regards,
 (*) I found the lingustic quality of the migration tool below OO
 standards... Am I the only one who catched this?

 No, you are not :)

 The funny part is - where can the translators even see how this tool looks 
 like?

 But obviously this won't be a part of the official 3.2 release, maybe
 a freeware extension or what? Or part of StarOffice? :)

 Lp, m.

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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Ain Vagula
Hm, as Ivo said ATM these tools are not provided. I messed it up with
this User Feedback or something thingie, thats also missing from
community builds. I'm sorry for that.
Anyways, such a big parts of text with unclear future and bad quality
- these should be announced in this list to prevent silly and bogus
work.
Translators, do not hesitate to ask here about every single suspicion
you may have. As you see this question was answered. Thats pity it
wasnt asked earlier.

Ain

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 21:30, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:
 Well, if Sun sells it, then they have to pay for my translation, I guess :)

 Lp, m.

 2009/10/13 Ain Vagula avag...@gmail.com:
 You can see it in Sun builds. ;)
 And yes, the text quality is horrible. As I dont understand half of
 this pidgin, I'll leave it untranslated, so or so it is not accessible
 in community builds.

 Ain

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 17:31, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:
 2009/10/13 Olivier Hallot ohal...@scinergy.com.br:
 Regards,
 (*) I found the lingustic quality of the migration tool below OO
 standards... Am I the only one who catched this?

 No, you are not :)

 The funny part is - where can the translators even see how this tool looks 
 like?

 But obviously this won't be a part of the official 3.2 release, maybe
 a freeware extension or what? Or part of StarOffice? :)

 Lp, m.

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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,

Ain Vagula schrieb:

Translators, do not hesitate to ask here about every single suspicion
you may have. As you see this question was answered. Thats pity it
wasnt asked earlier.
  


Actually it had ben asked (1st 2009-06-10).

The statement that thismodule needs not to be translated was given on 
2009-09-24 (not really quick answer, but there *was* an answer). Later 
Rafaella even stated, that the module is not inclded in normal OOo 
builds and is rather considered as some knd of extension.


So I don't know, what is the pity we need to speak about?

André



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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Ain Vagula
That I didnt read it ;)

ain

2009/10/13 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net:
 Hi,

 Ain Vagula schrieb:

 Translators, do not hesitate to ask here about every single suspicion
 you may have. As you see this question was answered. Thats pity it
 wasnt asked earlier.


 Actually it had ben asked (1st 2009-06-10).

 The statement that thismodule needs not to be translated was given on
 2009-09-24 (not really quick answer, but there *was* an answer). Later
 Rafaella even stated, that the module is not inclded in normal OOo builds
 and is rather considered as some knd of extension.

 So I don't know, what is the pity we need to speak about?

 André



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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Sophie

Hi all,
André Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

Ain Vagula schrieb:

Translators, do not hesitate to ask here about every single suspicion
you may have. As you see this question was answered. Thats pity it
wasnt asked earlier.
  


Actually it had ben asked (1st 2009-06-10).

The statement that thismodule needs not to be translated was given on 
2009-09-24 (not really quick answer, but there *was* an answer). Later 
Rafaella even stated, that the module is not inclded in normal OOo 
builds and is rather considered as some knd of extension.


the follow up issue is here :
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=104271

Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [l10n-dev] 3.2 (m60) done!

2009-10-13 Thread Olivier Hallot
well I don't like red bars in my pootle server summary, gives me 
itches :D


Ain Vagula escreveu:

That I didnt read it ;)

ain

2009/10/13 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net:

Hi,

Ain Vagula schrieb:

Translators, do not hesitate to ask here about every single suspicion
you may have. As you see this question was answered. Thats pity it
wasnt asked earlier.


Actually it had ben asked (1st 2009-06-10).

The statement that thismodule needs not to be translated was given on
2009-09-24 (not really quick answer, but there *was* an answer). Later
Rafaella even stated, that the module is not inclded in normal OOo builds
and is rather considered as some knd of extension.

So I don't know, what is the pity we need to speak about?

André



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