Re: Apache Lucene/Solr 5.0 (alpha)?

[Anshum Gupta]

Sure, it was a thought and I think I'm with you (and Robert) on that now.
Let's just call it 5.0!


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ryan Ernst  wrote:

> 4.0 was a major change.  The alpha/beta allowed a more lengthened period
> of time for users to experiment with upgrading.  But 5.0 doesn't have
> anything crazy.  Codecs are stable and easily upgrade when changes/bugfixes
> are needed.
>
> Furthermore, the alpha/beta logic in Version.java is/was very hairy (and
> just touching it caused the 4.10.1 release).  I don't see the need.  If
> users don't want to upgrade until 5.1, or 5.2, or 5.10, it doesn't matter.
> We should just stick with regular dot releases and avoid crazy alpha/beta.
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Robert Muir  wrote:
>
>> my main concern with the alpha is the lucene index format logic. This
>> gets fairly messy and doing this for 4.x actually caused backwards
>> compatibility bugs.
>>
>> If we can avoid alpha/beta releases it would be really nice.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Anshum Gupta 
>> wrote:
>> > I'd like to suggest that we call the next release 5.0 alpha and follow
>> it
>> > with either 5.0 or 5.0 beta (if need be) on the lines of the 4x
>> releases.
>> >
>> > As for the history behind calling it that, here's a post about the 4.0
>> alpha
>> > release that should clarify things I'm thinking about.
>> >
>> > http://lucidworks.com/blog/4-0-alpha-whats-in-a-name/
>> >
>> > Again, this would be a stable, production release. Like all other public
>> > releases but would give us the freedom to change APIs that need to be
>> > changed.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Anshum Gupta
>> > http://about.me/anshumgupta
>>
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Re: Apache Lucene/Solr 5.0 (alpha)?

[Ryan Ernst]

4.0 was a major change.  The alpha/beta allowed a more lengthened period of
time for users to experiment with upgrading.  But 5.0 doesn't have anything
crazy.  Codecs are stable and easily upgrade when changes/bugfixes are
needed.

Furthermore, the alpha/beta logic in Version.java is/was very hairy (and
just touching it caused the 4.10.1 release).  I don't see the need.  If
users don't want to upgrade until 5.1, or 5.2, or 5.10, it doesn't matter.
We should just stick with regular dot releases and avoid crazy alpha/beta.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Robert Muir  wrote:

> my main concern with the alpha is the lucene index format logic. This
> gets fairly messy and doing this for 4.x actually caused backwards
> compatibility bugs.
>
> If we can avoid alpha/beta releases it would be really nice.
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Anshum Gupta 
> wrote:
> > I'd like to suggest that we call the next release 5.0 alpha and follow it
> > with either 5.0 or 5.0 beta (if need be) on the lines of the 4x releases.
> >
> > As for the history behind calling it that, here's a post about the 4.0
> alpha
> > release that should clarify things I'm thinking about.
> >
> > http://lucidworks.com/blog/4-0-alpha-whats-in-a-name/
> >
> > Again, this would be a stable, production release. Like all other public
> > releases but would give us the freedom to change APIs that need to be
> > changed.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > Anshum Gupta
> > http://about.me/anshumgupta
>
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>

Re: Apache Lucene/Solr 5.0 (alpha)?

[Robert Muir]

my main concern with the alpha is the lucene index format logic. This
gets fairly messy and doing this for 4.x actually caused backwards
compatibility bugs.

If we can avoid alpha/beta releases it would be really nice.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Anshum Gupta  wrote:
> I'd like to suggest that we call the next release 5.0 alpha and follow it
> with either 5.0 or 5.0 beta (if need be) on the lines of the 4x releases.
>
> As for the history behind calling it that, here's a post about the 4.0 alpha
> release that should clarify things I'm thinking about.
>
> http://lucidworks.com/blog/4-0-alpha-whats-in-a-name/
>
> Again, this would be a stable, production release. Like all other public
> releases but would give us the freedom to change APIs that need to be
> changed.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Anshum Gupta
> http://about.me/anshumgupta

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Re: Apache Lucene/Solr 5.0 (alpha)?

[Alexandre Rafalovitch]

+1 (If I get to vote :-) )

5.0 is looking like a lot bigger deal on the usability features than
when the original jump was discussed several months ago.

It would be nice to have users to actually try those features before
RC1 of Final. Which requires some articles to drive adoption, etc.

Regards,
   Alex.

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On 6 January 2015 at 14:53, Erik Hatcher  wrote:
> sounds good, I’m +1 - 5.0 is a big deal and it’ll be good to get the
> “5.0-FINAL” as solid as possible.  Having an alpha release would surely get
> a larger number of folks trying it out.
>
> Erik
>
> On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Anshum Gupta  wrote:
>
> I'd like to suggest that we call the next release 5.0 alpha and follow it
> with either 5.0 or 5.0 beta (if need be) on the lines of the 4x releases.
>
> As for the history behind calling it that, here's a post about the 4.0 alpha
> release that should clarify things I'm thinking about.
>
> http://lucidworks.com/blog/4-0-alpha-whats-in-a-name/
>
> Again, this would be a stable, production release. Like all other public
> releases but would give us the freedom to change APIs that need to be
> changed.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Anshum Gupta
> http://about.me/anshumgupta
>
>

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Re: Apache Lucene/Solr 5.0 (alpha)?

[Erik Hatcher]

sounds good, I’m +1 - 5.0 is a big deal and it’ll be good to get the 
“5.0-FINAL” as solid as possible.  Having an alpha release would surely get a 
larger number of folks trying it out.

Erik

> On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Anshum Gupta  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to suggest that we call the next release 5.0 alpha and follow it 
> with either 5.0 or 5.0 beta (if need be) on the lines of the 4x releases. 
> 
> As for the history behind calling it that, here's a post about the 4.0 alpha 
> release that should clarify things I'm thinking about.
> 
> http://lucidworks.com/blog/4-0-alpha-whats-in-a-name/ 
> 
> 
> Again, this would be a stable, production release. Like all other public 
> releases but would give us the freedom to change APIs that need to be changed.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> Anshum Gupta
> http://about.me/anshumgupta 

Apache Lucene/Solr 5.0 (alpha)?

[Anshum Gupta]

I'd like to suggest that we call the next release 5.0 alpha and follow it
with either 5.0 or 5.0 beta (if need be) on the lines of the 4x releases.

As for the history behind calling it that, here's a post about the 4.0
alpha release that should clarify things I'm thinking about.

http://lucidworks.com/blog/4-0-alpha-whats-in-a-name/

Again, this would be a stable, production release. Like all other public
releases but would give us the freedom to change APIs that need to be
changed.

Thoughts?

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Anshum Gupta
http://about.me/anshumgupta