Re: New logo

[Ted Dunning]

On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Scott C. Cote  wrote:

> Will you be wearing “one of those t-shirts” on Monday  in Houston :)   ?
>

Not likely.

It is in the archive.

RE: New logo

[Andrew Palumbo]

+1 :)



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 Original message 
From: "Scott C. Cote" <scottcc...@gmail.com>
Date: 05/06/2017 2:43 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: u...@mahout.apache.org
Cc: Trevor Grant <trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>, Mahout Dev List 
<dev@mahout.apache.org>
Subject: Re: New logo

Will you be wearing “one of those t-shirts” on Monday  in Houston :)   ?
SCott
Scott C. Cote
scottcc...@gmail.com
972.672.6484



> On May 6, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know where one of those t-shirts is.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm <isa...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
>> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
>> old logo printed in 2009.
>>
>>
>> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
>> trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>:
>>> Thanks Scott,
>>>
>>> You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>>> native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>>>
>>> Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>>> anything about the origins/uses of this:
>>> https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>>> It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>>>
>>> Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>>> website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>>> apppreciate
>>> some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>>> in
>>> some headers but those are only directional:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
>> community/history.md
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trevor Grant
>>> Data Scientist
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>>
>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote <scottcc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trevor et al:
>>>>
>>>> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
>>>>
>>>> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
>>>> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>>> implementation.
>>>> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
>>>>
>>>> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>>> but it
>>>> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>>> technology.
>>>>
>>>> Math is a universal language.  Right?
>>>>
>>>> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
>>>>
>>>> SCott
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
>>> <trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>>> like the
>>>>> ones in front of me...
>>>>>
>>>>> I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>>> back to
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Enso.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
>>>>>
>>>>> Things I like about it:
>>>>> (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>>> prior
>>>> is
>>>>> that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
>>>>> It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
>>>>> ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>>> Hebrew-
>>>>> which may be something akin to essence or truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>>> which
>>>>> symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
>>>> expressive
>>>>> like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>>> but
>>>> I'm
>>>>> spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
>>>>>
>>>>> "O

Re: New logo

[Ted Dunning]

I know where one of those t-shirts is.



On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm 
wrote:

> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
> old logo printed in 2009.
>
>
> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
> trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>:
> >Thanks Scott,
> >
> >You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
> >native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
> >
> >Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
> >anything about the origins/uses of this:
> >https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
> >It seems to be a green mahout logo.
> >
> >Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
> >website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
> >apppreciate
> >some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
> >in
> >some headers but those are only directional:
> >
> >https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
> community/history.md
> >
> >
> >
> >Trevor Grant
> >Data Scientist
> >https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >http://trevorgrant.org
> >
> >*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Trevor et al:
> >>
> >> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
> >>
> >> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
> >> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
> >implementation.
> >> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
> >>
> >> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
> >but it
> >> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
> >technology.
> >>
> >> Math is a universal language.  Right?
> >>
> >> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
> >>
> >> SCott
> >>
> >> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
> >like the
> >> > ones in front of me...
> >> >
> >> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
> >back to
> >> > me.
> >> >
> >> > The Enso.
> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
> >> >
> >> > Things I like about it:
> >> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
> >prior
> >> is
> >> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
> >> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
> >> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
> >Hebrew-
> >> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
> >> >
> >> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
> >> >
> >> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
> >which
> >> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
> >> expressive
> >> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
> >but
> >> I'm
> >> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
> >> >
> >> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
> >> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
> >brief,
> >> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
> >> >
> >> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
> >which
> >> a
> >> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
> >create a
> >> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
> >and
> >> how
> >> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
> >such
> >> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
> >> striving
> >> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
> >solving
> >> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
> >that
> >> we
> >> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
> >serve as
> >> > our blueprint.
> >> >
> >> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
> >> >
> >> > Things I don't like about it:
> >> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
> >very
> >> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
> >> >
> >> > Other thoughts:
> >> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
> >color
> >> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
> >This
> >> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
> >does
> >> to
> >> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
> >that
> >> is
> >> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
> >> >
> >> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
> >grown up
> >> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, 

Re: New logo

[Isabel Drost-Fromm]

The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came up 
with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the old 
logo printed in 2009.


Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant :
>Thanks Scott,
>
>You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>
>Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>anything about the origins/uses of this:
>https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>
>Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>apppreciate
>some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>in
>some headers but those are only directional:
>
>https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/community/history.md
>
>
>
>Trevor Grant
>Data Scientist
>https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>http://trevorgrant.org
>
>*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>
>
>On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote 
>wrote:
>
>> Trevor et al:
>>
>> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
>>
>> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
>> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>implementation.
>> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
>>
>> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>but it
>> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>technology.
>>
>> Math is a universal language.  Right?
>>
>> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
>>
>> SCott
>>
>> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>like the
>> > ones in front of me...
>> >
>> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>back to
>> > me.
>> >
>> > The Enso.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
>> >
>> > Things I like about it:
>> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>prior
>> is
>> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
>> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
>> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>Hebrew-
>> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
>> >
>> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
>> >
>> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>which
>> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
>> expressive
>> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>but
>> I'm
>> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
>> >
>> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
>> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
>brief,
>> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
>> >
>> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
>which
>> a
>> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
>create a
>> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
>and
>> how
>> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
>such
>> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
>> striving
>> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
>solving
>> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
>that
>> we
>> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
>serve as
>> > our blueprint.
>> >
>> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
>> >
>> > Things I don't like about it:
>> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
>very
>> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
>> >
>> > Other thoughts:
>> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
>color
>> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
>This
>> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
>does
>> to
>> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
>that
>> is
>> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
>> >
>> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
>grown up
>> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb
>waving
>> > cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in
>> water,
>> > etc).
>> >
>> > Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more
>familiar
>> with
>> > this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator
>which
>> > carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
>> > tg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Trevor Grant
>> > Data 

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

Unfortunately the rules of 99designs require super fast responses from us; they 
have their own schedule based rules. I dropped the contest because 2 of the 4 
people responding that day were against continuing and we were only on the 
first phase of the design.

Sorry if others wanted to continue but I think 99designs just doesn’t fit the 
ASF collaboration style.

We are revamping the website so it would have been nice to update the logo but 
we’ll have to use a more relaxed collaboration method and/or service.

Does anyone know of a designer that wants to donate some work that would have a 
fair amount of visibility?



On May 1, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Ellen Friedman  wrote:


Just seeing this now, so maybe too late for my vote to count, but here goes. 

On Process: Pat thanks for organizing.

+1 to continue to work on logo. Something without the blue man or elephant is 
good idea. Prefer not all blue logo.

On designs:

My favorites two from the second batch (both are blue & yellow)

BEST for me is  one with interlocking thin squares and word "Mahout" - MY 
FAVORITE 

2nd best for me is one with word "Mahout" in black on interlocking solid 
yellow/blue background


3rd is simple letter M as wireframe 
but prefer the diagram be in yellow.

I don't care for the loopy curved logos (sorry Andrew!) 

Good luck!!

Ellen Friedman

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel > wrote:
We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and doesn’t 
want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days (the next step) 
vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC member)

Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.

In this case you have 24 hours to vote

Here’s my +1 to continue refining.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel > wrote:

Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be 
unique.https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed 


We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel > wrote:

Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif 


We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We have the 
rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like or would like 
to change.

We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that known 
too.

Re: New logo

[Ellen Friedman]

Just seeing this now, so maybe too late for my vote to count, but here
goes.

On Process: Pat thanks for organizing.

+1 to continue to work on logo. Something without the blue man or elephant
is good idea. Prefer not all blue logo.

On designs:

My favorites two from the second batch (both are blue & yellow)

BEST for me is  one with interlocking thin squares and word "Mahout" - MY
FAVORITE [image: Inline image 1]

2nd best for me is one with word "Mahout" in black on interlocking solid
yellow/blue background
[image: Inline image 2]

3rd is simple letter M as wireframe
[image: Inline image 3]but prefer the diagram be in yellow.

I don't care for the loopy curved logos (sorry Andrew!)

Good luck!!

Ellen Friedman

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days (the
> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC member)
>
> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
>
> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
>
> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
>
> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
>
> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like or
> would like to change.
>
> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
> known too.
>
>
>

Re: New logo

[Trevor Grant]

Thanks Scott,

You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.

Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
anything about the origins/uses of this:
https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
It seems to be a green mahout logo.

Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really apppreciate
some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put in
some headers but those are only directional:

https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/community/history.md



Trevor Grant
Data Scientist
https://github.com/rawkintrevo
http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
http://trevorgrant.org

*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*


On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote  wrote:

> Trevor et al:
>
> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
>
> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover implementation.
> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
>
> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up - but it
> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying technology.
>
> Math is a universal language.  Right?
>
> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
>
> SCott
>
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant 
> wrote:
> >
> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't like the
> > ones in front of me...
> >
> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming back to
> > me.
> >
> > The Enso.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
> >
> > Things I like about it:
> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol prior
> is
> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from Hebrew-
> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
> >
> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
> >
> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle which
> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
> expressive
> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL, but
> I'm
> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
> >
> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a brief,
> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
> >
> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection- which
> a
> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can create a
> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points and
> how
> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet such
> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
> striving
> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to solving
> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in that
> we
> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and serve as
> > our blueprint.
> >
> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
> >
> > Things I don't like about it:
> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a very
> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
> >
> > Other thoughts:
> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout color
> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors. This
> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that does
> to
> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If that
> is
> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
> >
> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more grown up
> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb waving
> > cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in
> water,
> > etc).
> >
> > Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more familiar
> with
> > this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator which
> > carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
> > tg
> >
> >
> >
> > Trevor Grant
> > Data Scientist
> > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> > http://trevorgrant.org
> >
> > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Ted Dunning 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
> >> any spark (to me).
> >>
> >> I 

RE: New logo

[Nikolai Sakharnykh]

I think there should be some sort of matrix or vectors or something related to 
linear algebra in the logo, maybe some math sign or some diagram of 
cells/arrows, with strict lines/sharp corners/etc. I'm not against cool 
abstract symbols but maybe we can mix them with more "down to earth" 
ideas/values of Mahout and link to linear algebra as well. For example, from 
all the candidates I liked the following a bit more than others, but it still 
doesn't feel right: 
https://images-platform.99static.com/6rNmpsFUUSTG00YPR845lALA2NI=/filters:quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84070/attachment_84070656

-Original Message-
From: Trevor Grant [mailto:trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:28 PM
To: u...@mahout.apache.org
Cc: Mahout Dev List <dev@mahout.apache.org>
Subject: Re: New logo

It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't like the ones 
in front of me...

I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming back to me.

The Enso.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D

Things I like about it:
(all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol prior is 
that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from Hebrew- which 
may be something akin to essence or truth.

It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.

It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle which symbolizes 
several large concepts and things about the creator, expressive like our DSL (I 
feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL, but I'm spit balling here, 
please forgive me- I am not so expressive).

"Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the character 
of its creator and the context of its creation in a brief, contiguous period of 
time." Which reminds me of the DRMs

In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection- which a 
little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can create a perfect 
circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points and how could ever 
be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet such things must exist, 
or what blueprint would a creator of circles be striving for.  This, by-the-by 
reminds me of stochastic approaches to solving problems, and really statistics 
/ "machine-learning" in general, in that we can't find perfect solutions, yet 
we believe solutions exist and serve as our blueprint.

Finally, I like that it is simple.

Things I don't like about it:
Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a very specific 
red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.

Other thoughts:
Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout color 
palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors. This could 
also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that does to our TM, is 
it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If that is the case is 
there any reason we must have a single Enso?)

So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more grown up than 
my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb waving cowboy hat, 
blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in water, etc).

Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more familiar with this 
symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator which carried out 
terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
tg



Trevor Grant
Data Scientist
https://github.com/rawkintrevo
http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
http://trevorgrant.org

*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals 
> showed any spark (to me).
>
> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback.
> But there it is.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome 
> > input) or would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not 
> > > worth paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill 
> > > (donations
> > > appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to 
> > > something. For me there are a coup

Re: New logo

[Trevor Grant]

I didn't mean to veto-

I thought we were on release rules. (at least three positives and more
positives than negatives).

If we're treating this as code modification (any -1 stops it dead) then I'm
somewhere in the ball park of -.75.


Trevor Grant
Data Scientist
https://github.com/rawkintrevo
http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
http://trevorgrant.org

*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> ok, the contest is cancelled
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Trevor Grant 
> wrote:
>
> I'll revise to -1.  Given blue man v. all the others, I'd be indifferent.
> None of the new possibilities give me enough hope of something worth
> displacing blue man (dated though he may be, has good recognition).
>
> ^^ Assuming it take 3 votes to pass either way?
>
> Trevor Grant
> Data Scientist
> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> http://trevorgrant.org
>
> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> > Fair enough, I think Trevor feels the same.
> >
> > The blue man can continue, all it takes is a -1
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> >
> > I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
> > any spark (to me).
> >
> > I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative
> feedback.
> > But there it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or
> >> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> >>
> >> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
> >>> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
> >>> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
> >>> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web
> >> site
> >>> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different,
> >> and
> >>> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant <
> trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> 
>  +0
> 
>  I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to
> >> -1
> 
>  Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
> >>> Python
>  Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
>  colors chosen.
> 
>  #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
> >>> above).
>  But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
>  colors.
> 
>  Trevor Grant
>  Data Scientist
>  https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>  http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>  http://trevorgrant.org
> 
>  *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."
> -Virgil*
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>  andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> >
> > My personal favorite is #38
> > https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
>  NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> > quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> >>> attachment_84017937
> >
> > I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams
> >> showing
> > vector multiplication.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> >> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
>  (the
> >> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
> > member)
> >>
> >> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> >>
> >> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> >>
> >> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> >> 

Re: New logo

[Ted Dunning]

I haven't been active enough to feel good about an out and out -1.

Put me as -0



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Fair enough, I think Trevor feels the same.
>
> The blue man can continue, all it takes is a -1
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
>
> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
> any spark (to me).
>
> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback.
> But there it is.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> > Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or
> > would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> >
> > I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
> >> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
> >> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
> >> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web
> > site
> >> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different,
> > and
> >> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> > andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> >>>
> >>> +0
> >>>
> >>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to
> > -1
> >>>
> >>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
> >> Python
> >>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
> >>> colors chosen.
> >>>
> >>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
> >> above).
> >>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
> >>> colors.
> >>>
> >>> Trevor Grant
> >>> Data Scientist
> >>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >>> http://trevorgrant.org
> >>>
> >>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >>> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> 
>  My personal favorite is #38
>  https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> >>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
>  quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> >> attachment_84017937
> 
>  I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams
> > showing
>  vector multiplication.
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
>  wrote:
> 
> > We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> > doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
> >>> (the
> > next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
>  member)
> >
> > Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> >
> > In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> >
> > Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> > https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> >
> > We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> >
> > We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider.
> We
> > have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
> >>> like
>  or
> > would like to change.
> >
> > We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make
> that
> > known too.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

ok, the contest is cancelled


On Apr 27, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Trevor Grant  wrote:

I'll revise to -1.  Given blue man v. all the others, I'd be indifferent.
None of the new possibilities give me enough hope of something worth
displacing blue man (dated though he may be, has good recognition).

^^ Assuming it take 3 votes to pass either way?

Trevor Grant
Data Scientist
https://github.com/rawkintrevo
http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
http://trevorgrant.org

*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Fair enough, I think Trevor feels the same.
> 
> The blue man can continue, all it takes is a -1
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> 
> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
> any spark (to me).
> 
> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback.
> But there it is.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
> 
>> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or
>> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
>>> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
>>> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
>>> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web
>> site
>>> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different,
>> and
>>> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
 
 +0
 
 I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to
>> -1
 
 Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
>>> Python
 Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
 colors chosen.
 
 #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
>>> above).
 But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
 colors.
 
 Trevor Grant
 Data Scientist
 https://github.com/rawkintrevo
 http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
 http://trevorgrant.org
 
 *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
 andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> 
> My personal favorite is #38
> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
 NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
>>> attachment_84017937
> 
> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams
>> showing
> vector multiplication.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
> 
>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
>> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
 (the
>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
> member)
>> 
>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
>> 
>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
>> 
>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
>> 
>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
>> 
>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider.
> We
>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
 like
> or
>> would like to change.
>> 
>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make
> that
>> known too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: New logo

[Trevor Grant]

I'll revise to -1.  Given blue man v. all the others, I'd be indifferent.
None of the new possibilities give me enough hope of something worth
displacing blue man (dated though he may be, has good recognition).

^^ Assuming it take 3 votes to pass either way?

Trevor Grant
Data Scientist
https://github.com/rawkintrevo
http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
http://trevorgrant.org

*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Fair enough, I think Trevor feels the same.
>
> The blue man can continue, all it takes is a -1
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
>
> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
> any spark (to me).
>
> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback.
> But there it is.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> > Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or
> > would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> >
> > I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
> >> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
> >> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
> >> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web
> > site
> >> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different,
> > and
> >> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> > andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> >>>
> >>> +0
> >>>
> >>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to
> > -1
> >>>
> >>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
> >> Python
> >>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
> >>> colors chosen.
> >>>
> >>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
> >> above).
> >>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
> >>> colors.
> >>>
> >>> Trevor Grant
> >>> Data Scientist
> >>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >>> http://trevorgrant.org
> >>>
> >>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >>> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> 
>  My personal favorite is #38
>  https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> >>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
>  quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> >> attachment_84017937
> 
>  I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams
> > showing
>  vector multiplication.
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
>  wrote:
> 
> > We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> > doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
> >>> (the
> > next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
>  member)
> >
> > Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> >
> > In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> >
> > Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> > https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> >
> > We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> >
> > We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider.
> We
> > have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
> >>> like
>  or
> > would like to change.
> >
> > We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make
> that
> > known too.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

Fair enough, I think Trevor feels the same.

The blue man can continue, all it takes is a -1


On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:

I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
any spark (to me).

I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback.
But there it is.



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or
> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> 
> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
>> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
>> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
>> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web
> site
>> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different,
> and
>> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
>>> 
>>> +0
>>> 
>>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to
> -1
>>> 
>>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
>> Python
>>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
>>> colors chosen.
>>> 
>>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
>> above).
>>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
>>> colors.
>>> 
>>> Trevor Grant
>>> Data Scientist
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>> 
>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>>> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
 
 My personal favorite is #38
 https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
>>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
 quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
>> attachment_84017937
 
 I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams
> showing
 vector multiplication.
 
 On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
 wrote:
 
> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
>>> (the
> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
 member)
> 
> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> 
> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> 
> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
>>> wrote:
> 
> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> 
> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
>>> wrote:
> 
> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> 
> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
>>> like
 or
> would like to change.
> 
> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
> known too.
> 
> 
> 
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: New logo

[Ted Dunning]

I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals showed
any spark (to me).

I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback.
But there it is.



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or
> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
>
> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> > Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
> > paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
> > appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
> > something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web
> site
> > or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different,
> and
> > the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> >>
> >> +0
> >>
> >> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to
> -1
> >>
> >> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
> > Python
> >> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
> >> colors chosen.
> >>
> >> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
> > above).
> >> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
> >> colors.
> >>
> >> Trevor Grant
> >> Data Scientist
> >> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >> http://trevorgrant.org
> >>
> >> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> >>>
> >>> My personal favorite is #38
> >>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> >> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> >>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> > attachment_84017937
> >>>
> >>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams
> showing
> >>> vector multiplication.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
>  doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
> >> (the
>  next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
> >>> member)
> 
>  Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> 
>  In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> 
>  Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> 
> 
>  On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
>  https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> 
>  We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> 
> 
>  On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> 
>  We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
>  have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
> >> like
> >>> or
>  would like to change.
> 
>  We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
>  known too.
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome input) or would 
you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:

I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web site
> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different, and
> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman 
> wrote:
> 
> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
> 
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant 
> wrote:
> 
>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
>> 
>> +0
>> 
>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to -1
>> 
>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
> Python
>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
>> colors chosen.
>> 
>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
> above).
>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
>> colors.
>> 
>> Trevor Grant
>> Data Scientist
>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>> http://trevorgrant.org
>> 
>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
>>> 
>>> My personal favorite is #38
>>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
>>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> attachment_84017937
>>> 
>>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams showing
>>> vector multiplication.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
 doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
>> (the
 next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
>>> member)
 
 Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
 
 In this case you have 24 hours to vote
 
 Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
 
 
 On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
>> wrote:
 
 Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
 https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
 
 We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
 
 
 On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
>> wrote:
 
 Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
 
 We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
 have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
>> like
>>> or
 would like to change.
 
 We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
 known too.
 
 
 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: New logo

[Ted Dunning]

I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth
> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations
> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to
> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web site
> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely different, and
> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman 
> wrote:
>
> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant 
> wrote:
>
> > Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> >
> > +0
> >
> > I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to -1
> >
> > Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a
> Python
> > Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
> > colors chosen.
> >
> > #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the
> above).
> > But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
> > colors.
> >
> > Trevor Grant
> > Data Scientist
> > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> > http://trevorgrant.org
> >
> > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> > andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> >>
> >> My personal favorite is #38
> >> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> > NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> >> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> attachment_84017937
> >>
> >> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams showing
> >> vector multiplication.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> >>> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
> > (the
> >>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
> >> member)
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> >>>
> >>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> >>>
> >>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> >>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> >>>
> >>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> >>>
> >>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
> >>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
> > like
> >> or
> >>> would like to change.
> >>>
> >>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
> >>> known too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not worth paying. 
We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill (donations appreciated) but 
don’t want to unless people think it will lead to something. For me there are a 
couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the web site or swag and yes we do have time 
to try something completely different, and the designers will be more willing 
since there is a guaranteed payout.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman  
wrote:

I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant 
wrote:

> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> 
> +0
> 
> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to -1
> 
> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a Python
> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
> colors chosen.
> 
> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the above).
> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
> colors.
> 
> Trevor Grant
> Data Scientist
> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> http://trevorgrant.org
> 
> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
>> 
>> My personal favorite is #38
>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/attachment_84017937
>> 
>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams showing
>> vector multiplication.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
>>> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
> (the
>>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
>> member)
>>> 
>>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
>>> 
>>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
>>> 
>>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
>>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
>>> 
>>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
>>> 
>>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
>>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
> like
>> or
>>> would like to change.
>>> 
>>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
>>> known too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: New logo

[Andrew Musselman]

I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant 
wrote:

> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
>
> +0
>
> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to -1
>
> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a Python
> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
> colors chosen.
>
> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the above).
> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
> colors.
>
> Trevor Grant
> Data Scientist
> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> http://trevorgrant.org
>
> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> >
> > My personal favorite is #38
> > https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> > quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/attachment_84017937
> >
> > I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams showing
> > vector multiplication.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> > > doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days
> (the
> > > next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
> > member)
> > >
> > > Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> > >
> > > In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> > >
> > > Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> > > https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> > >
> > > We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> > >
> > > We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
> > > have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you
> like
> > or
> > > would like to change.
> > >
> > > We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
> > > known too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: New logo

[Trevor Grant]

Also Pat, thank you for organizing.

+0

I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all enough to -1

Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy (a Python
Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that is the
colors chosen.

#143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of the above).
But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust hues /
colors.

Trevor Grant
Data Scientist
https://github.com/rawkintrevo
http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
http://trevorgrant.org

*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
>
> My personal favorite is #38
> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/attachment_84017937
>
> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams showing
> vector multiplication.
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel 
> wrote:
>
> > We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> > doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days (the
> > next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC
> member)
> >
> > Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
> >
> > In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> >
> > Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
> >
> > Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> > https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> >
> > We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
> >
> > Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> >
> > We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
> > have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like
> or
> > would like to change.
> >
> > We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
> > known too.
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: New logo

[Andrew Musselman]

+1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!

My personal favorite is #38
https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/attachment_84017937

I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams showing
vector multiplication.

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and
> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days (the
> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC member)
>
> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.
>
> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
>
> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
>
> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:
>
> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
>
> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We
> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like or
> would like to change.
>
> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that
> known too.
>
>
>

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all these and doesn’t 
want to continue with shortlisted designers for 3 more days (the next step) 
vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a PMC member)

Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below.

In this case you have 24 hours to vote

Here’s my +1 to continue refining.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be 
unique.https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed

We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif

We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We have the 
rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like or would like 
to change.

We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that known 
too.

Re: New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be 
unique.https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed

We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel  wrote:

Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif

We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We have the 
rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like or would like 
to change.

We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that known 
too.

New logo

[Pat Ferrel]

Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif

We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. We have the 
rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what you like or would like 
to change.

We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, make that known 
too.