Re: [Marketing] ITwire article
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 18:22 -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: They’re done by multiple people working on a project at once. Essentially, Open Office is fine if you have very limited needs because it was really designed around what Microsoft Office products were designed around 10 years ago.” So can we have some examples please? “The Microsoft Office product line has gone way beyond that to serve multiple constituencies. We have a home and student version. We have small business versions. We have multiple enterprise versions. It has gone on to encompass working with quite a bit of server software to encompass the real challenges that businesses have today.” Sounds like classic disruptive technology stuff. OOo comes along and is lower cost and good enough for most people. People with modest needs adopt it and as the technology improves it fits more people#s needs moving up the user pyramid. MSO gets pushed further up into niche markets where high degrees of integration are necessary. So all I would say is that anyone describing this process is just confirming the long term demise of MSO :-) Tell this guy to go read Clay Christensen's books and get himself educated - maybe they might sell him a discounted student edition :-) -- Ian Lynch www.theINGOTs.org www.opendocumentfellowship.org www.schoolforge.org.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org®
Who owns the trademark? TeamOOo? Daniel. Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: All, OpenOffice.org is very pleased to announce that through the pro-bono work of the Law Firm of Oppedahl Olson, LLP, we have received trademark protection in the US and we can now use OpenOffice.org®. You know, OpenOffice.org with the registered trademark symbol. Of course, the symbol should only be used for official communication and at that, sparingly--but informatively. The trademark protection will help us in several areas, such as with CDROM and other distribution problems. Today's announcement regarding OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 is the first to use the official ®. Our thanks to Carl Oppedahl and his team for making this possible! Team OpenOffice.org and I acted on behalf of OpenOffice.org. We followed the repeatedly expressed wishes of the community and also common sense. As mentioned, the trademark protection extends for right now just to the United States, though we are pursuing international trademark protection. We have acted on this--getting OpenOffice.org trademarked--with some discretion because we didn't want to broadcast our vulnerabilities too much. The history of OOo's trademark is long and varied. We've sometimes had it, sometimes not. In countries like Brazil, we do not evidently have it, and as a consequence, the Brazilian group have had to distribute OOo under a different name. Let's see to it that such unfortunate situations do not occur again. Cheers, Louis -- /\/`) http://opendocumentfellowship.org /\/_/ /\/_/ A life? Sounds great! \/_/Do you know where I could download one? / - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] new download page
All, If you've tried to download OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 (you know, the one with the magical dictionaries), you may have noticed a new download page. And if you did, you'll have noticed how clean, how nice, how usable it is. Our thanks must go to Maarten Brouwers, who in the space of about two days designed it. Sure, he had lots of help from the website team, including Chad Smith, Kay Schenk, Christian Lohmaier, Dough Thompson, and James, of 8daysaweek, but he's the one who mainly did it. Thanks. We'll continue to update and enhance it as needed, including adding the German project's server randomizer. Meanwhile Thanks to the developers and many, many other contributors who have made OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 great. My own personal thanks to Éric Bachard and the Mac OS X team for the fantastic and really beautiful Mac OS X (X11) version. It's super. Cheers, Louis smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org®
On 2006-03-08, at 14:31 , Daniel Carrera wrote: Who owns the trademark? TeamOOo? Yes. best, Louis Daniel. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[Marketing] OpenOffice.org®
All, OpenOffice.org is very pleased to announce that through the pro-bono work of the Law Firm of Oppedahl Olson, LLP, we have received trademark protection in the US and we can now use OpenOffice.org®. You know, OpenOffice.org with the registered trademark symbol. Of course, the symbol should only be used for official communication and at that, sparingly--but informatively. The trademark protection will help us in several areas, such as with CDROM and other distribution problems. Today's announcement regarding OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 is the first to use the official ®. Our thanks to Carl Oppedahl and his team for making this possible! Team OpenOffice.org and I acted on behalf of OpenOffice.org. We followed the repeatedly expressed wishes of the community and also common sense. As mentioned, the trademark protection extends for right now just to the United States, though we are pursuing international trademark protection. We have acted on this--getting OpenOffice.org trademarked--with some discretion because we didn't want to broadcast our vulnerabilities too much. The history of OOo's trademark is long and varied. We've sometimes had it, sometimes not. In countries like Brazil, we do not evidently have it, and as a consequence, the Brazilian group have had to distribute OOo under a different name. Let's see to it that such unfortunate situations do not occur again. Cheers, Louis smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Marketing] new download page
On Thursday 09 March 2006 06:31, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: All, If you've tried to download OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 (you know, the one with the magical dictionaries), you may have noticed a new download page. And if you did, you'll have noticed how clean, how nice, how usable it is. Hi Louis, Just had a look. The british English (English English?) download page has at least three spelling errors. How do I help by correcting this type of thing on the web site? Mike Williams - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] new download page
On 3/8/06, Jean Hollis Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please (a) tell me the answer, and (b) add something to the page to make it unambiguous. (a) incl. JRE means the download includes the JRE - therefore, if you do not have the JRE - this is the one you choose. Without JRE means the download is without a JRE - therefore, if you already have (or do not want) the JRE - this is the one you choose. Maybe we could change it to be: Windows (JRE included) Windows or Windows (with JRE) Windows (without JRE) or would we still run into the same problem? Anytime you say something as short as possible - you leave yourself open for misunderstanding, especially when you get in to implied negatives, double negatives, many ways to look at it, etc. No? -- - Chad Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/ http://www.whatisopenoffice.org/ Because everyone loves free software!
Re: [Marketing] new download page
Chad Smith wrote: (a) incl. JRE means the download includes the JRE - therefore, if you do not have the JRE - this is the one you choose. Without JRE means the download is without a JRE - therefore, if you already have (or do not want) the JRE - this is the one you choose. Maybe we could change it to be: Windows (JRE included) Windows or Windows (with JRE) Windows (without JRE) or would we still run into the same problem? Anytime you say something as short as possible - you leave yourself open for misunderstanding, especially when you get in to implied negatives, double negatives, many ways to look at it, etc. No? I think Windows (with JRE) and Windows (without JRE) would be just as confusing: do you mean the package includes the JRE, or is it for Windows already running the JRE? The Windows (JRE included) is a good improvement, I think. I'd also like to see some upgrade information on the installation (or even download) page. For instance, can I just install the new version over 2.0.1, or do I need to uninstall/reinstall? -- Steven Shelton Twilight Media Design www.TwilightMD.com www.GLOAMING.us - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] new download page
On 3/8/06, Bruce Byfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For that matter, people whom I've urged to try OOo have asked me what JRE means.marketing.openoffice.org How about a separate link to Java? No with or without JRE. -- - Chad Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/ http://www.whatisopenoffice.org/ Because everyone loves free software!
Re: [Marketing] new download page (again)
I've just noticed something else. The Select your operating system dropdown list includes FreeBSD, but if I go to the System Requirements page, http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html, there is nothing listed there for FreeBSD. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org®
So is there an acceptable use of the trademark document somewhere? Preferably also somewhere inside the distribution? --- Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, OpenOffice.org is very pleased to announce that through the pro-bono work of the Law Firm of Oppedahl Olson, LLP, we have received trademark protection in the US and we can now use OpenOffice.org®. You know, OpenOffice.org with the registered trademark symbol. Of course, the symbol should only be used for official communication and at that, sparingly--but informatively. The trademark protection will help us in several areas, such as with CDROM and other distribution problems. Today's announcement regarding OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 is the first to use the official ®. Our thanks to Carl Oppedahl and his team for making this possible! Team OpenOffice.org and I acted on behalf of OpenOffice.org. We followed the repeatedly expressed wishes of the community and also common sense. As mentioned, the trademark protection extends for right now just to the United States, though we are pursuing international trademark protection. We have acted on this--getting OpenOffice.org trademarked--with some discretion because we didn't want to broadcast our vulnerabilities too much. The history of OOo's trademark is long and varied. We've sometimes had it, sometimes not. In countries like Brazil, we do not evidently have it, and as a consequence, the Brazilian group have had to distribute OOo under a different name. Let's see to it that such unfortunate situations do not occur again. Cheers, Louis Sander .sigless ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] hello and welcome
Hello This message is to welcome all the new subscribers, potential new contributors, and those who have already begun to participate. Thank you and welcome. It is wonderful to see some new people seeing what needs doing and getting stuck in. There certainly has been a flurry of activity including getting a marketing section up on the wiki. I would especially like to thank Cristian for his guidance here, RealGrouchy for bringing some structure so that we can all contribute more easily and making a case to switch to OOo, and Jeffrey for migrating the Strategic Marketing Plan (SMP) from a wiki on John's personal site to the OOo wiki. Bernhard for instigating material for the Art Project on the wiki and coordinating the OEM label, and Cor and Willy for putting up PR and press coverage sections respectively. Many more people have added to the Major OOo Deployments and have since edited this and other pages. Thank you. Some great changes have been suggested, new ideas to implement, and I would like consider these carefully and for us to address these issues in separate threads. We have a busy time ahead of us too, with the location for the 2006 OpenOffice.org Conference (OOoCon) in Lyon having recently been announced, and OpenOffice.org continuing to get better and better. It appears to be a tumultuous and exciting first quarter for the Marketing Project, but hopefully the next few discussion threads will begin to clarify how and what needs doing, especially for those new to OpenOffice.org and or the Marketing Project. Again welcome and I look forward to working with you. Regards Jacqueline McNally Lead, OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Are you a computer angel? (www.computerangels.org.au) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org®
Sander! On 2006-03-08, at 19:44 , Sander Vesik wrote: So is there an acceptable use of the trademark document somewhere? Preferably also somewhere inside the distribution? Not formal. We have been using an informal guide but obviously now that the trademark is official a more formal one is required. Cheers, Louis smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
