Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Benjamin Horst wrote:

On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 12:42PM, "Alexandro Colorado" <[EMAIL 
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:44:23 -0500, Erwin Tenhumberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OK. So now we are here:

A) Target
- Business
- Students/teachers
- Facebook

B) Slogan
"Latest office for free! Genuine? goto www. ... "

C) Link
Separate page, with just few words, such as:

* Repeat slogan
* OOo is Free, Cool (modern), Great software for text, presentations, 
spreadsheets, databases, drawing.
* You can have a new release four times a year for free - not one every 
four years for a lot of money.

* For more info, go here / For download, go here


To do:
AD A
Which on-line magazines?

AD B
Ideas for design?

AD C
Better wording, nice graphic, first design?

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Re: [Marketing] Study of OpenOffice.org community

2007-08-29 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:47:35 -0500, Jeremy Malcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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Hi,

This is probably off-topic for this list, but of all the OOo mailing  
lists it was closest I could find.


I'm writing a PhD thesis which contains a section analysing various open  
source projects, including OpenOffice.org.  I include references to case  
studies about the other projects, including Apache and Mozilla, but I  
haven't been able to find one for OpenOffice.org.


The kind of study I'm interested in is one which looks not at the  
*software* but the *community*: how it is structured, how it is  
governed, its strengths and weaknesses, that sort of thing.


Does anyone know of any paper, article, or even just Web site, that  
analyses the OOo development community in these terms?


TIA



Check this one, it might not have ALL that you need but is a good  
reference:

http://www.ohloh.net/projects/29?p=OpenOffice.org

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[Marketing] Russia Is Latest Country to Move to ODF, Open Standards

2007-08-29 Thread Rail Aliev
A good subject to be included into our monthly newsletter. 

See PR at http://www.odfalliance.org/press/Release20070828_Russia.pdf

Quote:
In a statement, Russia's Ministry for IT and Communications said, “Open 
document standards must be supported on a governmental level. Within the 
project to form an e-government concept in the Russian Federation, support of 
ISO/IEC 26300:2006 is planned.”

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Re: [Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...

2007-08-29 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts


On 2007-08-29, at 11:16 , Mihai Mazilu wrote:


That's exactly what I was thinking.

A testimonial website: where are major institutional users would write
testimonies about why they switched to OO the benefits they got, so on
and so forth. I suggest that this website be divided into categories:
business(by industry) , public administrations, schools/colleges etc.

I am also thinking of advertising OO in magazines CEOs and CFOs, would
read since they are the ones making such a big decision in each
corporation.



We have a testimonial page but I'm way to overcommitted to maintain  
it. Right now those wanting to testify send me their notices to  
stories at openoffice.org. It's clumsy. A site that captures these  
automagically would be best; we can then edit the spam out.


For the present, though, if someone wants to go through the archives  
to stories@, I'd be happy to update the testimonials page. Would  
really love to do that prior to OOoCon.


As to ads, see Florian's message :-) We want to do that *now*. :-)

Ciao
louis







On 8/29/07, Juergen Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

i am not sure if it's a useful idea but i thought about a new  
section in
the wiki (or somewhere else) where users, especially professional  
users
like ISV's or companies who use OO.org or built some solutions  
based on

OO.org can provide some kind of success story. An interesting story
about the support from the community (or even from professionals who
offer support), a story about their solution they have build with or
based on OO.org,  The benefit for the project would be that we  
get
an overview who is using our office and especially who did a  
little bit

more with it and adapt it that way that it fits best in existing
business workflows etc. Good stories would show that we are more  
than an

office suite and hopefully would convince others to try it out.

Just an initial idea that have to be made concrete. Important  
would be

that it is authentic and comes from the user/ISV/company directly. A
little and cheap contribution for a powerful and free office  
suite ;-)


Juergen

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Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Benjamin Horst
I think some sites would be much better targets than others. And while I think 
Second Life is interesting, I don't think it (or MySpace) would be very helpful 
for OOo promotion. However, Facebook has a different audience and is perceived 
differently, so I think if any social networking site would work, it's Facebook.

Further, Facebook's large cadre of students is a great audience for general OOo 
messaging. I have always thought students are one of the markets where our 
advertising and promotional efforts will be most effective and cost-effective 
(this coming from a USA perspective, of course).

Thanks,
Ben
 
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>On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:44:23 -0500, Erwin Tenhumberg  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> Also, we should consider a sponsored Facebook Group or other  
>>> Facebook-based advertising. Apple has one specifically targeting  
>>> students, and has built up over 400,000 group members. (We do have a  
>>> free group already, "OpenOffice.org Users", which might be enough.) Or  
>>> perhaps some other types of ads on Facebook.
>>
>> I like the idea of targeting social networks like Facebook.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Erwin
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>This idea was proposed some time ago for Second Life and having an OOo  
>building there. But there was not much support mostly because there is not  
>many second lifers from the OOo community.  I have mixed feelings about  
>this since I was very supportive of OOo 'peripherial sites'. However i  
>wont feel very proud of a MySpace page for Otto. :)
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Re: [Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...

2007-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Juergen Schmidt schreef:

Hi,

i am not sure if it's a useful idea but i thought about a new section in 
the wiki (or somewhere else) where users, especially professional users 
like ISV's or companies who use OO.org or built some solutions based on 
OO.org can provide some kind of success story. An interesting story 
about the support from the community (or even from professionals who 
offer support), a story about their solution they have build with or 
based on OO.org,  The benefit for the project would be that we get 
an overview who is using our office and especially who did a little bit 
more with it and adapt it that way that it fits best in existing 
business workflows etc. Good stories would show that we are more than an 
office suite and hopefully would convince others to try it out.


Just an initial idea that have to be made concrete. Important would be 
that it is authentic and comes from the user/ISV/company directly. A 
little and cheap contribution for a powerful and free office suite ;-)


I think it is a good idea.
To make it work, there must be a way to collect the really good stories.
And maybe also review and place on the page ...
Furthermore, we must let the pubic know that it is there.
Funny would be to make some hype start up, a thing that everyone wants 
to have/see/know.


Regards,
Cor
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Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:44:23 -0500, Erwin Tenhumberg  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Also, we should consider a sponsored Facebook Group or other  
Facebook-based advertising. Apple has one specifically targeting  
students, and has built up over 400,000 group members. (We do have a  
free group already, "OpenOffice.org Users", which might be enough.) Or  
perhaps some other types of ads on Facebook.


I like the idea of targeting social networks like Facebook.


Cheers,
Erwin

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This idea was proposed some time ago for Second Life and having an OOo  
building there. But there was not much support mostly because there is not  
many second lifers from the OOo community.  I have mixed feelings about  
this since I was very supportive of OOo 'peripherial sites'. However i  
wont feel very proud of a MySpace page for Otto. :)



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Re: [Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...

2007-08-29 Thread Mihai Mazilu
That's exactly what I was thinking.

A testimonial website: where are major institutional users would write
testimonies about why they switched to OO the benefits they got, so on
and so forth. I suggest that this website be divided into categories:
business(by industry) , public administrations, schools/colleges etc.

I am also thinking of advertising OO in magazines CEOs and CFOs, would
read since they are the ones making such a big decision in each
corporation.






On 8/29/07, Juergen Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i am not sure if it's a useful idea but i thought about a new section in
> the wiki (or somewhere else) where users, especially professional users
> like ISV's or companies who use OO.org or built some solutions based on
> OO.org can provide some kind of success story. An interesting story
> about the support from the community (or even from professionals who
> offer support), a story about their solution they have build with or
> based on OO.org,  The benefit for the project would be that we get
> an overview who is using our office and especially who did a little bit
> more with it and adapt it that way that it fits best in existing
> business workflows etc. Good stories would show that we are more than an
> office suite and hopefully would convince others to try it out.
>
> Just an initial idea that have to be made concrete. Important would be
> that it is authentic and comes from the user/ISV/company directly. A
> little and cheap contribution for a powerful and free office suite ;-)
>
> Juergen
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Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg

Also, we should consider a sponsored Facebook Group or other Facebook-based advertising. 
Apple has one specifically targeting students, and has built up over 400,000 group 
members. (We do have a free group already, "OpenOffice.org Users", which might 
be enough.) Or perhaps some other types of ads on Facebook.


I like the idea of targeting social networks like Facebook.


Cheers,
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Re: [Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...

2007-08-29 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg

Hi,

I'm not saying this already exists, but I thought it would be useful
to highlight the following existing wiki pages again:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Market_Share_Analysis
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions


Cheers,
Erwin


Juergen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

i am not sure if it's a useful idea but i thought about a new section in 
the wiki (or somewhere else) where users, especially professional users 
like ISV's or companies who use OO.org or built some solutions based on 
OO.org can provide some kind of success story. An interesting story 
about the support from the community (or even from professionals who 
offer support), a story about their solution they have build with or 
based on OO.org,  The benefit for the project would be that we get 
an overview who is using our office and especially who did a little bit 
more with it and adapt it that way that it fits best in existing 
business workflows etc. Good stories would show that we are more than an 
office suite and hopefully would convince others to try it out.


Just an initial idea that have to be made concrete. Important would be 
that it is authentic and comes from the user/ISV/company directly. A 
little and cheap contribution for a powerful and free office suite ;-)


Juergen

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[Marketing] a new idea how to attract new users, companies ...

2007-08-29 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Hi,

i am not sure if it's a useful idea but i thought about a new section in 
the wiki (or somewhere else) where users, especially professional users 
like ISV's or companies who use OO.org or built some solutions based on 
OO.org can provide some kind of success story. An interesting story 
about the support from the community (or even from professionals who 
offer support), a story about their solution they have build with or 
based on OO.org,  The benefit for the project would be that we get 
an overview who is using our office and especially who did a little bit 
more with it and adapt it that way that it fits best in existing 
business workflows etc. Good stories would show that we are more than an 
office suite and hopefully would convince others to try it out.


Just an initial idea that have to be made concrete. Important would be 
that it is authentic and comes from the user/ISV/company directly. A 
little and cheap contribution for a powerful and free office suite ;-)


Juergen

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Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Benjamin Horst
I think a component of the marketing effort should also focus on students and 
teachers--there are advertising networks that could help us get print ads into 
many, many university newspapers, if we think print ads are a good option. (And 
it's a good time for that right now, as school sessions are just beginning.)

Also, we should consider a sponsored Facebook Group or other Facebook-based 
advertising. Apple has one specifically targeting students, and has built up 
over 400,000 group members. (We do have a free group already, "OpenOffice.org 
Users", which might be enough.) Or perhaps some other types of ads on Facebook.

Thanks,
Ben


OpenOffice and open source blog:
http://www.solidoffice.com/

Wiki business directory:
http://www.wikipages.com/

 
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>Florian Effenberger schreef:
>> [...]
>> What do we need to do?
>> 
>> - Defining our target audience.
>> - Finding key messages to communicate and deliver.
>
>What do we think of
>"Latest office for free! Genuine? goto www. ... "
>This can be done for radio add and for banners.
>
>The link can go to our why-pages.
>Or to a really short starter, continuing on the slogan, and then point 
>to why.openoffice.org / download... native language ...
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Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

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Florian Effenberger schreef:

[...]
What do we need to do?

- Defining our target audience.
- Finding key messages to communicate and deliver.


What do we think of
"Latest office for free! Genuine? goto www. ... "
This can be done for radio add and for banners.

The link can go to our why-pages.
Or to a really short starter, continuing on the slogan, and then point 
to why.openoffice.org / download... native language ...



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Re: [Marketing] Upcoming marketing campaign: Targets and design

2007-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Florian, *,


I'am in.

Some comments:

1. Great opportunity!

2. A nice campaign is likely to generate media-attention as well.

3. Target audience: I would try to focus on business. Maybe a few on 
more general media.

Our audience is rather diffuse, wide spread.

4. Length of the campaign. Can we repeat it over a period of few weeks, 
have a follow up in about a month or so?


5. For T-shirts and USB's some physical is distribution needed. We can 
give them away through an advertisement.
When (regional) conferences and boots are expected next months, it could 
be delivered for those?


6. I don't know the international on-line media very well. And producing 
excellent art isn't my thing, but for the rest I'll like to help.



(I didn't see other lists than [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet, so don't know what is 
posted there.)


Best,
Cor

Florian Effenberger schreef:
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together. Thank you!)


Hello all,

although it is holiday time, there is work to do. :-)

OpenOffice.org 2.3 is on the way, the Conference is in just a few weeks, 
in most countries, there is back to school season, and the world 
struggles with MS OOXML standardization or non-standardization - 
OpenOffice.org is more important than ever. Coincidentally, Sun has open 
funds for the OpenOffice.org marketing project for this quarter. This is 
a perfect match, and we definitely should take our chance to make 
something out of it! The deal is that Sun supports our marketing efforts 
with 55.000 $, if we can make up something in this quarter. And, I'm 
quite sure, we can, with the help of you all.


Our goal should be to strengthen awareness of the brand OpenOffice.org 
to a broad audience, resulting in higher market share and - countable - 
more downloads. We now have the unique chance of attracting attention of 
a lot of people, and we should do it.


One important element of creating awareness is by ads, in online or 
offline media. We should do international ads in English language, so 
they are not limited to one country, and we should decide which audience 
to target. Remember, 2.3 is on the way, an important release for nearly 
any audience, so we can choose who to target the ads at. We have about 
40.000 $ for publishing the ads, which is quite much to work with. 
Possible audiences are:


- business users (especially SMB and SOHO)
- or educational users
- or end-users

We should focus on Windows users, as these are the primary user base at 
the moment. Linux users usually use OpenOffice.org, and for Mac 
marketing, we should wait until the Aqua native version is ready.


As a bonus, using the rest of the funds (about 15.000 $), we will also 
be able to produce marketing materials, and I think that two elements 
make sense: T-shirts and USB drives preloaded with OpenOffice.org 
Portable. T-shirts that look pretty cool are worn outside, thus raising 
awareness of the brand. Giving away USB drives with OpenOffice.org in a 
no-need-to-install version that just can be run from the drive is 
definitely a cool idea as well.


We don't have much time. As a rough timeline, things should be set by 
September 4th, so we can move things onwards as soon as possible. Best 
would be to have things ready by September 14th, before we all fly to 
Barcelona.


What do we need to do?

- Defining our target audience.
- Finding key messages to communicate and deliver.
- Creating and designing the ads.
- Finding online and/or offline media to publish the ads to, then 
buying ad space there.
- Finally, we need to design the T-shirts and the USB drives and buy 
them.

So, who's in?


Thanks to all contributors in advance!
Florian

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