Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
John McCreesh wrote, On 12/03/09 22:58: > On Thu, December 3, 2009 2:13 pm, Malte Timmermann wrote: >> Well, not really a feature, but: Shouldn't we mention the improved >> startup-performance (cold start)? > > Yes! Have we some figures? I will ask someone to collect data with latest 3.2 version vs. 3.1.1. Malte. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
hi there. I think we should write down about "XLSX/XLSB import of OLE objects". It is good news for user:) Import embedded and linked OLE objects(Chart...etc) from XLSX/XLSB files http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100688 On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:41:34 - (GMT) "John McCreesh" wrote: > Original Message > Subject: [releases] 3.2 New Features page > From:"John McCreesh" > Date:Wed, December 2, 2009 6:31 pm > To: relea...@openoffice.org > -- > > The text content of the usual 'New Features' page is now nearing completion: > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html > > When we announce a new release, we issue a Press Release and a posting to > announce@ which list the 'to die for' new features of interest to the > media / end users. The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, > again aimed at end users. It includes screenshots where possible to > illustrate the new features - see the 3.1 version: > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ > > Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, > or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the > core product (not extensions). > > Thanks as always > > John > -- > John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org > Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Makoto Takizawa(alias Shu Minari )@ +81 Osaka,Japan - Enjoy and Keep Smiling in 525,600 Min - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] introduction
Hi All, I am applying for the role of observer in openoffice Marketing Project, and i am required to do an introduction about myself. I guess this is the correct address I should do my introduction ~ I am * just * started using Linux OS as my system for my PC, and thus everything in open source is new to me. Especially openoffice. It is fascinating I must say. If pirated software isn't this serious in my home country, openoffice will definitely shine for personal & corporate use here. Therefore, I am very much interested about the marketing efforts that have been put in for developing and promoting the use of openoffice. The best part of openoffice is not only it is open source, but also as a office suite, it supports almost every OS out there and most of the document format we usually use. openoffice has a great future ahead, imho. Oh, and i am required to mention my username, the one that i use in the project page? My username for the is guanhong. Cheers all~
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
re: "The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, again aimed at end users." From the perspective of an end user (me) who is proficient with various productivity applications yet ignorant about the importance/significance of confirmity with OASIS ODFF/OpenFormula specifications, ISO approved vendor-neutral document storage, or the standard RC4 algorithm, most of what's written goes way over my head and -- respectfully -- 'scares' folks who are of my ilk. For example, in one instance it seems that what is being said could be understood to mean that new OOo 3.2 filters enable the loading of many 'unknown file type' documents without trying to figure out what program to use... but I am not sure if this is actually what is meant or if I have misconstrued. I do understand that the New Features page is not intended to be 'promotional' copy. Also that a lot of people have far more literacy with these various technical improvements and will be favorably impressed by the things I do not understand. Still, one of our stated marketing objectives is to gain ground and build brand identity in the business world, which includes the (technophobe) business journalists and editors who will come to such pages looking to comprehend and leaving befuddled... because they don't understand why they should care about such issues. It just doesn't hook up for them/us that this all has to do with the stability of the software, including how quickly the application loads, how little it crashes and how fluidly it works. Anyway, that's my 3cents. Thanks for listening. ~Christine - Original Message - From: "John McCreesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page] Original Message Subject: [releases] 3.2 New Features page From:"John McCreesh" Date:Wed, December 2, 2009 6:31 pm To: relea...@openoffice.org -- The text content of the usual 'New Features' page is now nearing completion: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.2/beta.html When we announce a new release, we issue a Press Release and a posting to announce@ which list the 'to die for' new features of interest to the media / end users. The 'New Features' page is the next level of detail, again aimed at end users. It includes screenshots where possible to illustrate the new features - see the 3.1 version: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/ Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the core product (not extensions). Thanks as always John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Thu, December 3, 2009 2:13 pm, Malte Timmermann wrote: > Well, not really a feature, but: Shouldn't we mention the improved > startup-performance (cold start)? Yes! Have we some figures? Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo
Hi all, I am also still thinking about a startcenter solution, because there is a chance we use new ODF icons and lose the color scheme. So I made this time a prototype based on my dark icon design. I removed all icons, because in this way we are icons independent... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Startmenu-dark.png regards Jens - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Wed, December 2, 2009 9:05 pm, Ivan M wrote: > Hi John, > > One more typo: > > Encription (wrong spelling) under the heading "Proprietary file support" Thanks - John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
On Wed, December 2, 2009 6:56 pm, Steven Shelton wrote: [snip] > Found some typos: Fixed thanks. > Can users now print tables in Base? I had heard that this was going to > be possible, but I haven't seen any documentation of it. If so, it > should be included. (That's always been one of my pet peeves; if I > want to print a table, I have to export it to Calc or something > instead of just hitting PRINT.) Interesting idea ... I'm not aware anyone's working on it. John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Join the hundred million - http://why.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [discuss] *FYI* Site selling your software
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 21:40, Javier Bustamante wrote: > It looks like this site is trying to sell your software for $9.99 Free can mean one of two things: * Libre: * Gratis; 1: Libre The Free Software Foundation has defined "Libre Software" as that which meets the Four Freedoms. * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. Debian-Legal, to determine whether or not software meets _The Debian Free Software Guidelines_, has devised the following tests: * "The Desert Island Test". Imagine a castaway on a desert island with a solar-powered computer with an Internet connection that can't upload. This would make it impossible to fulfill any requirement to make changes publicly available or to send patches to some particular place. This holds even if such requirements are only upon request, as the castaway might be able to receive messages but be unable to send them. To be free, software must be modifiable by this unfortunate castaway, who must also be able to legally share modifications with friends on the island. * "The Dissident Test". Consider a dissident in a totalitarian state who wishes to share a modified bit of software with fellow dissidents, but does not wish to reveal the identity of the modifier, or directly reveal the modifications themselves, or even possession of the program, to the government. Any requirement for sending source modifications to anyone other than the recipient of the modified binary ( in fact, any forced distribution at all, beyond giving source to those who receive a copy of the binary ) would put the dissident in danger. For Debian to consider software Free it must not require any such excess distribution. * "The Tentacles of Evil Test". Imagine that the author is hired by a large evil corporation and, now in their thrall, attempts to do the worst to the users of the program: to make their lives miserable, to make them stop using the program, to expose them to legal liability, to make the program non-free, to discover their secrets, etc. The same can happen to a corporation bought out by a larger corporation bent on destroying free software in order to maintain its monopoly and extend its evil empire. The license cannot allow even the author to take away the required freedoms. Some people who work with content have added the following test: * DRM Dave's Hardware Platform: (DRM: Digital Management Rights) Can Bob & Alice upload non-DRM content? Can Bob & Alice download non-DRM content? Can Bob & Alice download DRM content? Can Bob & Alice upload third party DRM content? Can Bob & Alice download third party non-DRM content? Can Bob & Alice play first party non-DRM content? Can Bob & Alice play third party non-DRM content? Can Bob & Alice play third party DRM content? If all of those conditions are met, then it is Libre. 2: Gratis Whilst software that is Libre can be distributed Gratis, there is no requirement to do so. A major issue with FLOSS is the creation of a viable revenue stream through product sales. The person you sell FLOSS to, can turn around and burn a million CDs, either selling them for whatever price they so desire, or just giving them away. ( FLOSS: Free Libre Open Source Software) OOo is distributed under the GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 3.0 As such, it meets the requirement of Libre. You can download OOo from http://download.openoffice.org/index.html. * There are vendors who will charge for downloading the program from their website; * There are vendors who will charge for the CD or DVD; * There are vendors who will charge a per seat license fee; How much you pay has no bearing on the amount, or type of support you receive. I've seen CD vendors charge $0.99 and provide one hour telephone support. I've seen CD vendors charge $500.00 and provide no support at all. TANSTAAFL: There is the implication with FLOSS that one will support the community. The Debian Social Contract is the best known of the formally defined "contracts". (TANSTAAFL: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch) 3: Resources The following URLs provide additional information: * http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-licensing.html * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
RE: [marketing] Unsubscribe please!
I have several times over the last 2 years, but now that my inbox is over 10,000 I decided to try again before I dump this email address > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:27:33 +0100 > From: juergen.schm...@sun.com > To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org > Subject: Re: [marketing] Unsubscribe please! > > Hi Rich, > > have you seen the footer on all the mails? > > If you want to unsubscribe send an empty email to > dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org. > > Juergen > > Rick Shoemaker wrote: > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:46:25 +0100 > >> From: flo...@openoffice.org > >> To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org > >> CC: p...@marketing.openoffice.org > >> Subject: Re: [marketing] We're through to the top three > >> > >> Hi John, > >> > >>> Our Press Release for the 3.1 launch has been judged one of "the three top > >>> online news releases of 2009": > >>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-three/releases-2009/prweb3285904.htm > >> congratulations! This is awesome. :-) > >> > >>> You can vote for the overall winner here: > >>> http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html > >>> > >>> Let's hope lots of people vote for us - it would be good publicity for the > >>> Community. > >> I keep my fingers crossed! > >> > >> Florian > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > >> > > > > _ > > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1&media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > _ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009
Re: [marketing] Unsubscribe please!
Hi Rich, have you seen the footer on all the mails? If you want to unsubscribe send an empty email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org. Juergen Rick Shoemaker wrote: Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:46:25 +0100 From: flo...@openoffice.org To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org CC: p...@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] We're through to the top three Hi John, Our Press Release for the 3.1 launch has been judged one of "the three top online news releases of 2009": http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-three/releases-2009/prweb3285904.htm congratulations! This is awesome. :-) You can vote for the overall winner here: http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html Let's hope lots of people vote for us - it would be good publicity for the Community. I keep my fingers crossed! Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1&media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Unsubscribe please!
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:46:25 +0100 > From: flo...@openoffice.org > To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org > CC: p...@marketing.openoffice.org > Subject: Re: [marketing] We're through to the top three > > Hi John, > > > Our Press Release for the 3.1 launch has been judged one of "the three top > > online news releases of 2009": > > http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-three/releases-2009/prweb3285904.htm > > congratulations! This is awesome. :-) > > > You can vote for the overall winner here: > > http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html > > > > Let's hope lots of people vote for us - it would be good publicity for the > > Community. > > I keep my fingers crossed! > > Florian > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1&media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009
Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo
Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jürgen, all, Juergen Schmidt schrieb: Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...] Peter Junge wrote: [...] Personal remark: I would strongly prefer standardized icon sets for any file format. IMHO the clear type recognition should be the main priority for ease of use. As mentioned before: because different applications provide different actions to one file format (one is viewer, others are meant to modify the file), I'd like to add an area in the icons that shows a symbol or graphical element of the standard application opening the file. mmh, maybe you can show us something real instead of repeating again and again that it should have been done differently. Sorry, if I sound repetitive. Peter wrote, that he didn't read the whole discussion, therefore I repeated the main content. Show us your icons and we can discuss it. My intention here was to find a basic agreement on what is important on such icons - before we start to create them. But in the meantime the Art Project started a few drafts, some of them quite different form any present document icon, some more "classical". i got notice so far, thanks. I have forgotten to enable automatic check for new messages on my a...@marketing.openoffice.org mail folder ;-) The icons (especially mine) are not more than a graphical basis for an idea how it could look like - and that it is possible to combine the information even on small icons. These first drafts have been uploaded to the artist sandbox at the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Artist_Sandbox i got it but i have no real opinion. As i mentioned before i don't need an application specific icons and i would always use what's the default icon set for ODF. And by the way i like the grey ones. And sorry if it sounds unfriendly but talking only is not enough and we already know your opinion. No problem - even if I think that a discussion is much more than talking about different opinions. If you can convince me (and others of course) that the grey icons without OOo symbol serve OOo better than colored ones (or the other way round), this would lead to a broader, if not general, agreement on the principles behind the icons. we will see how the discussion moves forward on disc...@ux Juergen And on such a basis the design specialists can work on an optimized set of icons. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo
Hi Jürgen, all, Juergen Schmidt schrieb: Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...] Peter Junge wrote: [...] Personal remark: I would strongly prefer standardized icon sets for any file format. IMHO the clear type recognition should be the main priority for ease of use. As mentioned before: because different applications provide different actions to one file format (one is viewer, others are meant to modify the file), I'd like to add an area in the icons that shows a symbol or graphical element of the standard application opening the file. mmh, maybe you can show us something real instead of repeating again and again that it should have been done differently. Sorry, if I sound repetitive. Peter wrote, that he didn't read the whole discussion, therefore I repeated the main content. Show us your icons and we can discuss it. My intention here was to find a basic agreement on what is important on such icons - before we start to create them. But in the meantime the Art Project started a few drafts, some of them quite different form any present document icon, some more "classical". The icons (especially mine) are not more than a graphical basis for an idea how it could look like - and that it is possible to combine the information even on small icons. These first drafts have been uploaded to the artist sandbox at the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Artist_Sandbox And sorry if it sounds unfriendly but talking only is not enough and we already know your opinion. No problem - even if I think that a discussion is much more than talking about different opinions. If you can convince me (and others of course) that the grey icons without OOo symbol serve OOo better than colored ones (or the other way round), this would lead to a broader, if not general, agreement on the principles behind the icons. And on such a basis the design specialists can work on an optimized set of icons. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
Well, not really a feature, but: Shouldn't we mention the improved startup-performance (cold start)? Malte. Ivan M wrote, On 12/02/09 22:05: > Hi John, > > One more typo: > > Encription (wrong spelling) under the heading "Proprietary file support" > > Regards, > Ivan. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Steven Shelton wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 12/2/2009 1:41 PM, John McCreesh wrote: >>> Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, >>> or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the >>> core product (not extensions). >> >> Found some typos: >> >> "As OpenOffice.org 3.2 currently requires a superset of the ODF 1.2 >> specification, the aoftware now warns users when /ODF 1.2 Extended/ >> features have been used." >> >> I'm pretty sure that should be "the software now warns users . . ." >> >> Similarly, "nserting or deleting cells, columns or rows into/from the >> middle of merged cells, which previously caused an error message, is >> now possible" should read "Inserting or deleting cells . . ." >> >> I think under "Locales", this line: >> >> "OpenOffice.org 3.1 adds locale data for Oromo_Ethiopia [om-ET], . . ." >> >> should actually refer to OO 3.2. >> >> There's also a stray bullet under the "Writer" heading. >> >> Can users now print tables in Base? I had heard that this was going to >> be possible, but I haven't seen any documentation of it. If so, it >> should be included. (That's always been one of my pet peeves; if I >> want to print a table, I have to export it to Calc or something >> instead of just hitting PRINT.) >> >> - -- >> Steven Shelton >> Twilight Media & Design, LLC >> 17195 Silver Parkway >> #134 >> Fenton, MI 48430 >> www.TwilightMD.com >> >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iD8DBQFLFrhbKP0FWmSVanERApw1AJ4+GNjHK0WOGuPTzfQHt2PwfmKeAgCfa3LK >> r7Gvv3qLNT3Gz60u6a9axuk= >> =vpKu >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
