Re: [marketing] birthday cake
Hi Bernhard, We can still have a cake withouth the logo, just with the symbol. Here's an example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png Or we can find good pictures of the cake at the OOoCon, this one would need to be cropped and the candles are missing: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png What do you think? Regards, Rosana Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suárez-Potts schrieb: I'd like to focus attention on a fairly urgent matter. Specifically, the baking of the traditional cake, this time with 10 candles, to represent our 10th anniversary. [...] In the past, the community composed of the Website team (which I used to lead) and the Marketing/Art teams made the image. [...] We need a cake (or at least want one) and we need for it to do what birthday cakes always do: be pretty and show that there is some grace left in life for now and in the future. The past logo was allowed to be combined with images like the cakes: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_bcake_9th.png For the new logo we've been told that it is necessary to define a minimal white space around it (discussion not yet finished, but probably half the height of the O for community internal use). there was a consensus in the branding team that seasonal logos for the website are the least important ones and therefore should not be supported. If there is any different decision, please let me know. Linked to the image of the 9th birthday at the wiki there is sthe SVG source with the cake and candles. It doesn't take too much work to add another candle and move the others around to make it look decent... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- http://www.oracle.com/ Rosana Ardila Biela | Marketing Manager Phone: +49 (0)40 23 646 722 Oracle Office ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] birthday cake
Hi, the second link was wrong, here's the right one: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/8/86/OOoCon_cake.JPG Regards, Rosana Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi Bernhard, We can still have a cake withouth the logo, just with the symbol. Here's an example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png Or we can find good pictures of the cake at the OOoCon, this one would need to be cropped and the candles are missing: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png What do you think? Regards, Rosana Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suárez-Potts schrieb: I'd like to focus attention on a fairly urgent matter. Specifically, the baking of the traditional cake, this time with 10 candles, to represent our 10th anniversary. [...] In the past, the community composed of the Website team (which I used to lead) and the Marketing/Art teams made the image. [...] We need a cake (or at least want one) and we need for it to do what birthday cakes always do: be pretty and show that there is some grace left in life for now and in the future. The past logo was allowed to be combined with images like the cakes: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_bcake_9th.png For the new logo we've been told that it is necessary to define a minimal white space around it (discussion not yet finished, but probably half the height of the O for community internal use). there was a consensus in the branding team that seasonal logos for the website are the least important ones and therefore should not be supported. If there is any different decision, please let me know. Linked to the image of the 9th birthday at the wiki there is sthe SVG source with the cake and candles. It doesn't take too much work to add another candle and move the others around to make it look decent... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [OT] birthday cake
Just to show-off, this is our real OpenOffice.org birthday cake, posted to the facebook page http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165650950114082 and the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIfW92XzBA for the event :) On 10/8/2010 1:07 PM, Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi Bernhard, We can still have a cake withouth the logo, just with the symbol. Here's an example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png Or we can find good pictures of the cake at the OOoCon, this one would need to be cropped and the candles are missing: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png What do you think? Regards, Rosana Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suárez-Potts schrieb: I'd like to focus attention on a fairly urgent matter. Specifically, the baking of the traditional cake, this time with 10 candles, to represent our 10th anniversary. [...] In the past, the community composed of the Website team (which I used to lead) and the Marketing/Art teams made the image. [...] We need a cake (or at least want one) and we need for it to do what birthday cakes always do: be pretty and show that there is some grace left in life for now and in the future. The past logo was allowed to be combined with images like the cakes: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_bcake_9th.png For the new logo we've been told that it is necessary to define a minimal white space around it (discussion not yet finished, but probably half the height of the O for community internal use). there was a consensus in the branding team that seasonal logos for the website are the least important ones and therefore should not be supported. If there is any different decision, please let me know. Linked to the image of the 9th birthday at the wiki there is sthe SVG source with the cake and candles. It doesn't take too much work to add another candle and move the others around to make it look decent... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- _/|\_ /Samphan Raruenrom./ Osdev - Open Source Development Co., Ltd. / ??./ ? - ?? ?? ? tel: +66 2 269 9889 web: osdev.co.th http://www.osdev.co.th/ twitter: @osdev http://twitter.com/osdev facebook: facebook.com/osdev http://www.facebook.com/osdev
Re: [marketing] [OT] birthday cake
Wow, this is really really great! Sorry for crossposting, but website-team: is there any chance to get this video embedded on openoffice.org? I'd be glad to see as many cakes as possible. Regards, Rosana Samphan Raruenrom wrote: Just to show-off, this is our real OpenOffice.org birthday cake, posted to the facebook page http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165650950114082 and the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIfW92XzBA for the event :) On 10/8/2010 1:07 PM, Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi Bernhard, We can still have a cake withouth the logo, just with the symbol. Here's an example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png Or we can find good pictures of the cake at the OOoCon, this one would need to be cropped and the candles are missing: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png What do you think? Regards, Rosana Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suárez-Potts schrieb: I'd like to focus attention on a fairly urgent matter. Specifically, the baking of the traditional cake, this time with 10 candles, to represent our 10th anniversary. [...] In the past, the community composed of the Website team (which I used to lead) and the Marketing/Art teams made the image. [...] We need a cake (or at least want one) and we need for it to do what birthday cakes always do: be pretty and show that there is some grace left in life for now and in the future. The past logo was allowed to be combined with images like the cakes: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_bcake_9th.png For the new logo we've been told that it is necessary to define a minimal white space around it (discussion not yet finished, but probably half the height of the O for community internal use). there was a consensus in the branding team that seasonal logos for the website are the least important ones and therefore should not be supported. If there is any different decision, please let me know. Linked to the image of the 9th birthday at the wiki there is sthe SVG source with the cake and candles. It doesn't take too much work to add another candle and move the others around to make it look decent... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [OT] birthday cake
HI everyone, I have to second Rosanas statement - the video is truly great! And also the nice background graphic :-))) Perfect! Cheers, Christoph Am Freitag, den 08.10.2010, 14:37 +0200 schrieb Rosana Ardila: Wow, this is really really great! Sorry for crossposting, but website-team: is there any chance to get this video embedded on openoffice.org? I'd be glad to see as many cakes as possible. Regards, Rosana Samphan Raruenrom wrote: Just to show-off, this is our real OpenOffice.org birthday cake, posted to the facebook page http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165650950114082 and the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIfW92XzBA for the event :) On 10/8/2010 1:07 PM, Rosana Ardila wrote: Hi Bernhard, We can still have a cake withouth the logo, just with the symbol. Here's an example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png Or we can find good pictures of the cake at the OOoCon, this one would need to be cropped and the candles are missing: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png What do you think? Regards, Rosana Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suárez-Potts schrieb: I'd like to focus attention on a fairly urgent matter. Specifically, the baking of the traditional cake, this time with 10 candles, to represent our 10th anniversary. [...] In the past, the community composed of the Website team (which I used to lead) and the Marketing/Art teams made the image. [...] We need a cake (or at least want one) and we need for it to do what birthday cakes always do: be pretty and show that there is some grace left in life for now and in the future. The past logo was allowed to be combined with images like the cakes: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_bcake_9th.png For the new logo we've been told that it is necessary to define a minimal white space around it (discussion not yet finished, but probably half the height of the O for community internal use). there was a consensus in the branding team that seasonal logos for the website are the least important ones and therefore should not be supported. If there is any different decision, please let me know. Linked to the image of the 9th birthday at the wiki there is sthe SVG source with the cake and candles. It doesn't take too much work to add another candle and move the others around to make it look decent... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo History page updated
Hi Drew, It seems that you're responsible for the following page. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_Of_OpenOffice.org Can I add following info so that we can make this page more informative. What do you think? Nakata Maho From: Maho NAKATA m...@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] OOo History page updated Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:56:51 +0900 (JST) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_Of_OpenOffice.org I think 2001-04 Source code to Mac OS X port released would be 2001-04-11 Source code to Mac OS X port released . I found the original e-mails etc. Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:01:27 -0700 Subject: Mac OS X Port Available on OpenOffice.org From: Bill Roth bill.r...@eng.sun.com http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=47 Starting today, OpenOffice.org announces the availability of the Macintosh OS X port of the OpenOffice.org code. http://porting.openoffice.org/source/browse/*checkout*/porting/www/index.html?rev=1.25 2001-04-11 17:56:48+ (9 yes, 5 month) by br I guess br would be Bill Roth. looks consistent. -- From: Maho NAKATA m...@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] OOo History page updated Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:49:06 +0900 (JST) From: Maho NAKATA m...@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] OOo History page updated Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:16:19 +0900 (JST) Hi Drew, Very interesting. Just 10 min my contribution to this page... From: Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com Subject: [marketing] OOo History page updated Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:18:22 -0400 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_Of_OpenOffice.org 2000-07-19 OpenOffice.org announced; StarOffice 5.2 code open-sourced under LGPL/SISSL cf. http://www.openoffice.org/press/sun_release.html 2000-07-19 02:24:52+ (10 years, 2 month old) by jrobbins http://www.openoffice.org/source/browse/*checkout*/www/www/press/sun_release.html?rev=1.1 yes. this is actually 2000/07/19. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OOo History page updated
On 10/08/2010 05:40 PM, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi Drew, It seems that you're responsible for the following page. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_Of_OpenOffice.org Can I add following info so that we can make this page more informative. What do you think? Nakata Maho i think the same thing I've thought for 6 years - it's a wiki...it's your page every bit as mine. Best wishes, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] birthday cake
Hi Rosana, Rosana Ardila schrieb: Hi Bernhard, We can still have a cake withouth the logo, just with the symbol. Here's an example: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/f0/OOo_cake.png This one looks good - I'd vote for it ;-) Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Community - who and where are we? [was: Logo for 10th...]
Hi Alex, all I step in here, but could reply to many other mails. Sorry for not having the time to reply earlier as it has been my upload that started this discussion. Alex Fisher schrieb: Jonathon wrote: [...] Alex Fisher wrote: It has been said that most of the OO.o community is backing this. [... adding back the most relevant part of this paragraph IMHO ...] I have trouble believing the figures put forward. Bear in mind that the Community Council is *not* the entire community. The Developers are *not* the entire community. They are *part* of the community, and *only* part of it. You are right: the entire community is very hard to define. But the Community Council is much more than what Jonathon describes: The Community Council represents the users. It represents all community members and therefore it represents the community as a whole. Personally I don't think that it helps if people want to describe their position and show how much support they got in saying We are the community. But what should be clear to everybody, is: All the Community Council members not being employed by Oracle have been involved in setting up the Document Foundation. Everybody of them represents a large area of the OpenOffice.org community. None of the Oracle employed Community Council members joined the Foundation by now, and they represent very important and active OpenOffice.org projects as well. That is how it is supposed to be. But that also implies some sort of consultation, which is completely lacking here That's right too, but I can't see any possibility to avoid this problem during the time the Foundation became more than an idea. You are all aware of the foundation being part of the first agenda when the OpenOffice.org community became alive [1]. Just a few hours ago Björn Michaelsen repeated on the germanophone mailing list wenn man eine Foundation gruendet, mit eigener Finanzierung und Infrastruktur (Repos, Wiki, Mailinglisten etc.) ist das eine Sache, die dem Projekt sicher nuetzt.[2] [personal translation]: ... if you establish a foundation, with it's own financing and infrastructure (repos, wiki, mailing lists etc.) this is something that serves the community for sure ... I'm quite sure that nearly every community member might support the idea of an independent foundation being able to provide the legal support Sun Microsystems did in the past and Oracle was handed over with Sun's acquisition. I don't want to count other positive aspects of not being dependent on a single company's good will. They have been discussed sufficiently. But I want to come back to the point, why there was no consultation of the lists beforehand: Everybody reading the mailing lists and press releases/articles in the past 1 1/2 years will have noticed, that there have been topics leading to very different opinions inside the community. ODF icons, new logo, trademark policy ... - even if there has been some discussion on these topics that seemed to lead to better integration between Oracle employed and other community members, finally only the Oracle positions have been implemented, other's are pending for a long time or have just been ignored. Together with the public reception of Oracle's attitude against other open source projects, people couldn't avoid thinking of the threat of Oracle dropping OpenOffice.org in favor of Oracle Open Office / Cloud Office in near future. Michael Bemmer's presentation at the OOoCon didn't help to reduce this fear. So the necessity for a foundation became pressing, while the fear of Oracle repressions (including totally dropping OpenOffice.org support and leaving the community without any infrastructure) seems comprehensible to me. The only way to solve this problem was to establish at least a minimum of infrastructure before the foundation became publicly known. Therefore it was not possible to start discussions on the mailing lists, but long-standing community members with an established reputation from all the different community areas have been involved from the beginning. The Developers are the people that work on the product. For independent developers the new foundation brought the possibility to contribute to OpenOffice.org without the need to share their copyright with one single company (possibly their employers competitor) being able to relicense their work in any way they want to. It's just the trademark issue, that prevents the initiators from staying with our good and well-known name. It has always been mentioned that the LibreOffice name was meant as placeholder. Take a look at who registered the various LibreOffice domain names. And look at how fast those domain names were registered. That (the hasty registration of domain names) only serves to increase my level of suspicion relating to the motivation. Even if you think differently - registration has been done by many individual
Re: [marketing] Community - who and where are we? [was: Logo for 10th...]
Hi Alex, all Hi Bernhard, Congratulations on a very good analysis. OOo has needed a foundation from the outset. It was inevitable, only the timing has been uncertain. If Oracle didn't know this they didn't do proper due diligence. The next question is how to optimise the resources available to the foundation so that it is not only sustainable but becomes the definitive focus for the development of open source office productivity tools. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
