Re: [marketing] Press tracking

2011-01-31 Thread Peter Junge
On 01/30/2011 12:59 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> wonder how many papers and articles have published the OOo release and if we
> can spot any results from the PR release.

I do not have too much time at the moment as I'm working on OOo's CeBIT
presence and a couple of other things. I briefly tried to query Google
news. Searching for the exact headline of the press announcement,
returns a couple of results, but they do not seem to be too significant.
Using search strings like "openoffice 3.3 release" does not really help
as it returns widely identical results to "libreoffice 3.3 release", as
articles about the OOo release always mention LO and vice versa. To get
a better picture, it would require to brief read a coupe of these
articles. Anyone tried so far?

Peter

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Re: [marketing] OOO 3.3

2011-01-31 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Ian Lynch  wrote:

> On 31 January 2011 15:24, Rev JP Webb (Work) 
> wrote:
>
> > To whom it may concern
> >
> > I used openoffice 3.0 but I seriously need a proper MS publisher
> > replacement. Draw does not cut the mustard and Scribus is not user
> > friendly.
> >
>
> Try Inkscape. For flyers, leaflets etc  - I did the colour covers for our
> assessors handbook in it.
>
> Personally I would much rather use Inkscape to do the covers and Writer for
> the text inside than use a DTP program of any type. You have to learn how
> to
> use Inkscape and GIMP together to get the best of them but for graphics,
> labels etc I can't think of much they can't do pretty efficiently. If you
>

I disagree I think Draw is simple enough to make the best out of deploying
leaflets. Is easier than Scribus but also very powerful, althought I do have
some caviates in terms of the image format handling. I think that the use of
good drawing practices can make your imaginery work great on software like
inscape and then rasterize to the leaflet. Since the leaflets dont need
resizing a rasterize image and input of text is ok.



> want turnkey wizards for layouts you are going to be disappointed but then
> again, I would always want a one off individual layout rather than one
> which
> screamed - he did this in Publisher! If you are publishing colour magazines
> with irregular text flow around graphic objects on many paged multi-column
>  documents then you probably need something like Quark Express not MS
> Publisher in any case. Then you are into a lot of Euros ;-).
>

I don't really know much about Publisher but it seems as basic as Draw from
a video I saw on youtube. The only big time missing feature in Draw is the
linking of the text boxes. If Draw had that, it will make it a more serious
contender for multiple page publication. Then again you can do it in writer
but is a different mechanics to interact with the images.  Probably need to
learn bout contour and other functions to make the text adjust to the image
shape.


>
> Until the open source movement comes up with something comparable to
> > publisher I am afraid I will have to stick with Microsoft (as do many
> > others
> > I know who need a simple but effective dtp application).
>

Scribus is really great, too bad you didnt put enough time to learn it but
it has much more features than Microsoft and is much greater handling image
formats. So until you can get more knowledge on the tool you will still be
in the dark about DTP products. DTP are not "easy" tools, they are
professional tools, so ease of use isnt really something you can expect
from, just like Photoshop might loose a first time user. What I agree is
that we need more books and tutorials about Scribus, eventhougth there are
some like ShowMedo.
http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/series?name=nfurdunov
or this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Scribus-1-3-5-Beginners-Cedric-Gemy/dp/1849513007/ref=cm_lmf_tit_2


> >
>
> Well it all depends on whether someone with the skills and inclination or
> the funds agrees with you. Personally it doesn't bother me because I can do
> all I need for my company using existing tools. What you need is to get all
> those that have a need to get together and do something about it. I don't
> see it as being a high priority for the OOo community because there are
> many
> other things that are more important and there are limited resources.
>
> Yours
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > Rev Paul Webb
> >
> > East Molesey
> >
> > Surrey
> >
> > KT8 9DU
> >
> >
>
>
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[marketing] Re: OOO 3.3

2011-01-31 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 31/01/11 16:24, Rev JP Webb (Work) a écrit :

Hi,

>  
> I used openoffice 3.0 but I seriously need a proper MS publisher
> replacement. Draw does not cut the mustard and Scribus is not user friendly.
> Until the open source movement comes up with something comparable to
> publisher I am afraid I will have to stick with Microsoft (as do many others
> I know who need a simple but effective dtp application).

It might help all of us more if you gave details as to why Draw doesn't
"cut the mustard". Which specific functionality did you find lacking ?

Personally, I actually quite like Scribus, but yes, it has an interface
which takes some getting used to.


Alex


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Re: [marketing] OOO 3.3

2011-01-31 Thread Ian Lynch
On 31 January 2011 15:24, Rev JP Webb (Work)  wrote:

> To whom it may concern
>
> I used openoffice 3.0 but I seriously need a proper MS publisher
> replacement. Draw does not cut the mustard and Scribus is not user
> friendly.
>

Try Inkscape. For flyers, leaflets etc  - I did the colour covers for our
assessors handbook in it.

Personally I would much rather use Inkscape to do the covers and Writer for
the text inside than use a DTP program of any type. You have to learn how to
use Inkscape and GIMP together to get the best of them but for graphics,
labels etc I can't think of much they can't do pretty efficiently. If you
want turnkey wizards for layouts you are going to be disappointed but then
again, I would always want a one off individual layout rather than one which
screamed - he did this in Publisher! If you are publishing colour magazines
with irregular text flow around graphic objects on many paged multi-column
 documents then you probably need something like Quark Express not MS
Publisher in any case. Then you are into a lot of Euros ;-).

Until the open source movement comes up with something comparable to
> publisher I am afraid I will have to stick with Microsoft (as do many
> others
> I know who need a simple but effective dtp application).
>

Well it all depends on whether someone with the skills and inclination or
the funds agrees with you. Personally it doesn't bother me because I can do
all I need for my company using existing tools. What you need is to get all
those that have a need to get together and do something about it. I don't
see it as being a high priority for the OOo community because there are many
other things that are more important and there are limited resources.

Yours
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Rev Paul Webb
>
> East Molesey
>
> Surrey
>
> KT8 9DU
>
>


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Re: [marketing] OOO 3.3

2011-01-31 Thread Rudolph Barnard
Hi Paul,
Try PHP, I'm a Web Site Developer, & it works for me.
Regards

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Rev JP Webb (Work)
wrote:

> To whom it may concern
>
> I used openoffice 3.0 but I seriously need a proper MS publisher
> replacement. Draw does not cut the mustard and Scribus is not user
> friendly.
> Until the open source movement comes up with something comparable to
> publisher I am afraid I will have to stick with Microsoft (as do many
> others
> I know who need a simple but effective dtp application).
>
> Yours
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Rev Paul Webb
>
> East Molesey
>
> Surrey
>
> KT8 9DU
>
>


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[marketing] OOO 3.3

2011-01-31 Thread Rev JP Webb (Work)
To whom it may concern
 
I used openoffice 3.0 but I seriously need a proper MS publisher
replacement. Draw does not cut the mustard and Scribus is not user friendly.
Until the open source movement comes up with something comparable to
publisher I am afraid I will have to stick with Microsoft (as do many others
I know who need a simple but effective dtp application).
 
Yours 
 

Paul 

 

Rev Paul Webb

East Molesey

Surrey

KT8 9DU