Re: [marketing] 1. Open-Source-Treffen in Munich
hello Peter! the guy has been contacting me off-list, as I was the first one who has been answering him. Looks like, he was overwhelmed by the unexpected number of emails he was receiving. As this seems to be his first appearance on a mailing list, he did not understand some of the features, e.g. getting back his own mails. Worst for him, as I understood it, some shady characters have been evaluating his email address using Google, got his phone number and are now annoying him with advertising services related to OOo. I would not be surprised, if he has been paying money for OOo at one of these dubious vendors, who exploit OOo. According to him, he also didn't initiate his subscription to the mailing list. So, my conclusion is, that he is a victim of inappropriate businesses (plural!) around OOo. I'm currently in a calm discussion with him and I want to find out the real case behind it. We have to get a grip on these people who are doing business at the expense on OOo's good reputation, driving some people, like this guy, real mad. never thought about this. is this a more or less single incident or a serious problem? any info on that? I'll be back, if I make any interesting findings. that would be very interesting, indeed. its great that you talk to him and explain the whole thing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [dev] Re: [marketing] extending the OpenOffice BugBounty Programm
good idea with the bounty program! personally, with a view to fix more bugs, i think the below is counter-produktive: 'To be discussed:' Sorry, professional software developers or existing contributors are not eligible for the Programme. 'or' People working on OpenOffice.org code development fulltime are not eligible for participation. best, On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:23:24 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: John McCreesh wrote (6-2-2009 23:00) I would suggest contacting the folks at FOSDEM and getting them to photocopy and handout leaflets tomorrow... Since we are not finished yet ... But it's a good idea to announce it ... be aware, coming soon ... I'll do something for that. Thanks for the idea, John, Cor -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [Marketing] Merchandise for using OO templates
hello Bernd, Seriously where´s the point there? What did they do so great for OOo? you are absolutely right - from a moral perspective, there are lots of people who would deserve the (merchandise) funds more in exchange for their work. but its merchandise (and not reward/remuneration) funds we are talking about. so its not so much about rewarding for what someone did for OOo, but more about promoting OOo. in this respect, one important, general question is whether and to what extent the channeling of funds/T-shirts on the user/customer (who have not done much for openoffice) side - as opposed to developers/suppliers - negatively influences the incentives of the suppliers to continue with their investment of time and knowledge. we believe the majority of suppliers/contributers understand and accept the reward for people who have not done much - given that the reward is limited (a t-shirt) and that that linking t-shirts to writing thesis with OOo helps the "cause" we see a couple of advantages of this "user/student focussed reward": first, and most importantly, students hear about "openoffice" and (at least) get to know that it exists: system administrators and other people like developers know that OOo exists and - for their own reasons - already contribute towards it. in addition, and this is also not to be underestimated, students see that open office is not just a geek thing but it has corporate backing and has funds available for t-shirts. for many of them open source is still a "grass roots" geek thing, hobby project. further, but certainly not least, it shows students that there are useful templates outthere and even video tutorials on how to use those templates. the effect of this "thesis promo package" and the overall professional image that it comes along with should - iov - not be underestimated. it might also be a good idea to link t-shirts to (user side) OOo course participation. finally, giving t-shirts for handing in OOo thesis also links the reward to something useful, productive (writing a thesis) and valueable (to the OOo community) as the user needs to spend a couple of months with OOo. from the user's perspective, the individual learns how to use openoffice (writing a thesis takes a couple of months). however, we dont expect many students to write their thesis with OOo merely because they get a t-shirt. in practise, most students who would get t-shirts under this "thesis promo package" already use OOo. still, the overall effect on the customer/student side would - iov - be considerable and it would reward loyal OOo users. regarding the absolute costs, we dont believe thousands of people will write their thesis with openoffice because of the t-shirt. VN is a student community /numbers of t-shirts, we made the experience that - quite frankly - not many people know about openoffice (most of them have not even heard about the GPL/GNU and, to our surprise, most of them do not even know about creative commons which should be "closer" to the "non-techie" as it covers music and games). if one wants to limit it down, one can restrict it to dissertations and use of the templates by Matthias and Matthias. generally, our take is that its cheap marketing, increases brand awareness and - in practise - rewards loyal openoffice user (most likely those user who already use openoffice will submit their thesis) and we think that channeling funds/t-shirts for this specific purpose, does, in our view, make a lot of sense and stands a detailed cost analysis. -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Merchandise for using OO templates
Hello, There are (at least) three templates (http://www.vodes.net/rev/Open-Source/OO-Course/OO-Thesis-Template/) available for students who write their thesis/longer papers. How about rewarding the students who use those templates with a T-shirt or another merchandise? Our foundation can take over the distribution in university cities in Austria, Prague, Stockholm and Ghent/Belgium. We also have "trusted" (but informal) contacts (i.e. students) in various other (primarily) European cities. -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds
where we can present how and to who we would distribute the merchandise? Not as of now. But feel free to insert a new paragraph "distribution" into the main wiki page. done. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds
Hello Florian, good to see that you are pushing this thing forward. So does this mean that the merchandise is only going to NLC projects Basically, it can go to everyone who is able to coordinate and deliver, but I guess 1-3 persons per country are enough. is there a place (other than here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:MarketingCampaign_Q3-2007) where we can present how and to who we would distribute the merchandise? best, -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:38:22 +0200, Florian Effenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: please add your idea to the Wiki so we have it available for further reference! done. -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: Merchandising from Sun funds
Is there anyone in the project that has an institution or institutions in their area that fits that description. Cheers GL Alan mentioned South Africa: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=25654 -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: Merchandising from Sun funds
Hi Nik, My concern is that OOo will come off looking less idealistic and more Media-hungry than it is, that people will see-right-through this as an attempt to attract attention and not actually help the kids. about "selfish" media hungriness and "actually helping the kids" (students), as mentioned in the other posting, thats why we advocate the merchandise funds to be used in conjunction with OO courses where the kids/students learn something useful too - something that is useful for them (and not only OO). and with a serious committment regarding this focus on usefulness for the student, i believe "media hungriness" can be excused too. -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: Merchandising from Sun funds
Hej Alejandro and all others, Good to see that there is a solid discussion going on - to get different perspectives and to do some open, liberal and creative brainstorming what could be done. If it was up to me to fund a campaing to market OOo to poor people, I would have drop it in a beat. I preffer OOo to win in the enterprise than in the rural regions on a very isolated area. Once we got the enterprise, then I will think to go to the more general population, and after that i will think on rural areas in first world countries and after that I will think of targeting third world countries and after that I will think on poor people. at the outset, i dont think anyone here advocates handing out t-shirts to poor kids who have never seen a computer. now about the poor people/enterprise focus, of course it would be more valuable to win the enterprise market (as opposed to people in rural areas in third world countries) and have them use openoffice and the strategy you outline makes a lot of sense. but this enterprise market is also highly competitive and millions/billions of dollars are spent there with Google and Microsoft being active. With this very small, particular marketing campaign we are talking about here, i believe, its effect and value to openoffice and its impact would be higher in poorer, second world countries (where there is an infrastructure in place, of course) because the market there is less competitive and the effect of each dollar spend is - imho - higher (the returns are perhaps lower too; though not necessarily because i believe making a university becoming a dedicated open office user is of higher value than a small company). to me, spending money/merchandise in conjunction with education in developing countries has the advantage that it increases brand awareness there with the potential to get some positive PR out of it as well (especially the latter is not possible when focussing on enterprises). also, education and universities in particular have the other advantage that user (student) fluctuation is higher as compared to companies and more people get to know openoffice. It doesn't sound smart to waste limited resources on a 'feel good idea' but not really a targeted goal in mind. totally agreed. but focussing on education in (second world) countries is a targeted goal and one that makes some sense (to me). -- Coreteam VN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds
Box tokens. thats a really good idea as well as it increases incentives of "box owners" to co-operate. if the big ones dont wanna participate, there is a whole lot of unknown brands distributed through the low cost wal-marts and aldis (european version). its not even restricted to cereals - anything that is in a supermarket and has a certain box size can carry the message/token/cd. -- Coreteam VN Gartengasse 21 8010 Graz AUSTRIA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds
putting it in cereal boxes is really an excellent way to get it to the attention of people as "average jane/joe" sees it in the supermarket. this is a top spot and worth lot. regarding the actual use of the cd, perhaps its not that effective as people buy cereal to eat and not to install a computer software. so from a usage perspective, CDs would perhaps better be used in context with education. to stimulate actual use of the CD in the cereal boxes, additions of CC music or videos might be something (http://www.linuxelectrons.com/news/linux/11085/fedora-creative-commons-team-deliver-livecontent-distribution) On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:34:49 +0200, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like the Kellogg's idea for the CDs - has it been raised before - and if so - what were the pros/cons? Andy On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:29:20 -0500, "Alexandro Colorado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:51:38 -0500, CTVN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: good idea regarding the developing countries. rather than just handing t-shirts out (btw, to who - the fastest, strongest or the ones with the best connections?!?), its perhaps better to give them as prizes for the best participants (or all who pass...) in an openoffice course. apart from being more valued by the person who gets the shirt as (s)he has earned the t-shirt (rather then been given too), its also good way to bring young people to the openoffice/computer where they learn something useful. the issue with third world countries is the distribution channels. You really need to have a good distribution channel strategy since most of the people you want to get at are in remote locations. Now also you can join with organizations that specialized on delivering goods to this communities. There is the food bank which usually already have this distribution channel in place. Personally I think the best distribution channel is to ship OpenOffice.org CD's on Cereal boxes. Meaning go to Kelloggs or Nestle and distribute your product with both of the logos and make it kid's friendly and you will have OOo all over the country in no time (regardless if its first or third). Along those lines, I dont think we need to go to the poorest of the poor to 'show them the light'. I also think that just supporting small schools and putting them on the map can be a great enablers to 'an outside world'. Which is something that I learn from other initiatives such as the ingots. Can we get students of rural colleges interested in learning about technology. Make a google summer of code would be great for them if they only had the chance. Basically there are more motivators than just getting physical goods. The trick is how to get the message to them. if there are some t-shirts left, we could also use a couple of them to equip student (soccer) teams. at this point, we are primarily active in sweden, austria and the czech republic. On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:13:37 +0200, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 to Ian's idea. Though not sure if a developing country is necessarily the best place to put the t-shirts. Charities in the UK, Europe & America - coupled with an installation of OOo by local volunteers may get a broader range of press publications. We can either go for the unilateral BIG marketing push with this, or the bilateral smaller effort - that gets multiple mentions across a more personalized media - which is turn has the chance to generate the big story. Andy On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:04:46 +0100, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 02:58 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: We are tossing a very small stone in a very large pond I would stick with just the T-Shirts, but again that would depend on our targets. Let's first define our demographic Decide locations Establish the message we want to deliver Figure out how best to measure the success of the campaign Then decide what type of merchandise delivers the message best to our proposed target audience while delivering a measurable result. Why not give them to a group of children who would really benefit eg in a developing country. "OOo community puts shirts on the backs of 2000 children!" Take a photograph and then try and get that photograph into the mainstream press. That way the kids benefit and more people see the OOo name than would just from a T shirt promotion. Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications www.theINGOTs.org You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [Marketing] Merchandising from Sun funds
good idea regarding the developing countries. rather than just handing t-shirts out (btw, to who - the fastest, strongest or the ones with the best connections?!?), its perhaps better to give them as prizes for the best participants (or all who pass...) in an openoffice course. apart from being more valued by the person who gets the shirt as (s)he has earned the t-shirt (rather then been given too), its also good way to bring young people to the openoffice/computer where they learn something useful. if there are some t-shirts left, we could also use a couple of them to equip student (soccer) teams. at this point, we are primarily active in sweden, austria and the czech republic. On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:13:37 +0200, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 to Ian's idea. Though not sure if a developing country is necessarily the best place to put the t-shirts. Charities in the UK, Europe & America - coupled with an installation of OOo by local volunteers may get a broader range of press publications. We can either go for the unilateral BIG marketing push with this, or the bilateral smaller effort - that gets multiple mentions across a more personalized media - which is turn has the chance to generate the big story. Andy On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:04:46 +0100, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 02:58 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: We are tossing a very small stone in a very large pond I would stick with just the T-Shirts, but again that would depend on our targets. Let's first define our demographic Decide locations Establish the message we want to deliver Figure out how best to measure the success of the campaign Then decide what type of merchandise delivers the message best to our proposed target audience while delivering a measurable result. Why not give them to a group of children who would really benefit eg in a developing country. "OOo community puts shirts on the backs of 2000 children!" Take a photograph and then try and get that photograph into the mainstream press. That way the kids benefit and more people see the OOo name than would just from a T shirt promotion. Ian -- New QCA Accredited IT Qualifications www.theINGOTs.org You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Coreteam VN Gartengasse 21 8010 Graz AUSTRIA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OO presentation in context of Free Software Day
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:42:52 +0200, Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello! BTW, this is a public list... Hello, We know. We thanked you personally because the link was really interesting. In this respect, we made a simple OO thesis template, a video tutorial on how to use it and we give once in a while a crash course on how to customize the thesis template (see links below). That's pretty good. Have you considered giving the template to our Docs project? It houses templates, among other things, in all languages--or at least links to those other languages. See http:// documentation.openoffice.org/ . Yes, someone has asked for permission to publish it there. We welcome this of course. Regarding the Free Software Day and a presentation on OO, we can offer a promotion channel to reach students at Stockholm university. In particular: 1) advertising space to promote the Free Software day and OO lecture on our announcement board (right in front of main SU library) 2) access to a well equipped lecture room at SU for a presentation/ lecture on a OO topic that is of interest to students from SU 3) participation in the ProFun games (with soccer) to promote "OO Sweden"/Free Software day among sport loving students (e.g. team OO Sweden wearing t-shirts with the logo of OO Sweden or the Free software day >>> participants should be students from either KTH or SU because the university pays for the hours at the sports facility) (possibly, depending on the deadline) 4) announcement of the event in Gaudeamus (the official student magazine delivered to the homes of people) The proposals above are the things that we can offer at any rate. If you have other ideas how we can help, dont hesitate to come forward. Well, we don't spend money on advertising. We do accept contributions from the community to further the community's goals--and that could mean your goals, too. I mean: if you want to donate the space and time and energy, super: we will all benefit. Or did I misinterpret your message? We dont expect money for this. If there is interest in giving a lecture at SU (can also be about copyright laws, GPL/GNU v3), we can assist in providing the room and make some promotion etc. We hope that there is some co-operation (feedback and constructive critisism) regarding the template and video tutorial we prepared. Before we translate the audio track of the video tutorial, we would like to have some expert opinions on the content of the video tutorial. You should really consider then having this discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I'm cc'ing Frank Peters, co-lead of the project, to assist you. thx for the info. ProFun Games: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/PFG/PFG_GEN/PFG_GEN_EN/ ProFun Games Videos: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Videos/PFG/ stockholmvideos/ Well, getting back to promoting the use and development of OOo among university students, I'm quite interested. Use is easily accomplished, or at least making OOo in SV available, is. Development is more complicated, and requires commitment and real interest. But it's a lot more rewarding. I'd be happy to discuss with your team either angle. We want to bring in students from around the world to help develop OOo--including extensions, templates, core code. Our efforts focus on the template and the production of multi-language tutorials regarding its use. However, we believe the template is general enough (basically for any paper requiring a table of content) as to be of interest also to non students. Coming back to the promotion, we believe the ProFun Games are en effective way to promote OO/Sun in student circles and associate performance with OO/Sun. In addition, participation of a Team OO/Sun in the PFG would also do away with a common misbelief that OO is a hobby driven project. In particular, we can offer to approach good soccer players (who use OpenOffice) wearing looking T-shirts with the OO/Sun logo. The highlights will be recorded and put on video platforms. If there is interest in this respect, please let us know. -- Core Team VN Stockholms Universitets Studentkar Box 50006 10405 Stockholm Sweden - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] OO presentation in context of Free Software Day
Hello, Thx Louis for this useful information. We are a student association at Stockholm university and one of our goals is to promote open source among students. In this respect, we made a simple OO thesis template, a video tutorial on how to use it and we give once in a while a crash course on how to customize the thesis template (see links below). Regarding the Free Software Day and a presentation on OO, we can offer a promotion channel to reach students at Stockholm university. In particular: 1) advertising space to promote the Free Software day and OO lecture on our announcement board (right in front of main SU library) 2) access to a well equipped lecture room at SU for a presentation/lecture on a OO topic that is of interest to students from SU 3) participation in the ProFun games (with soccer) to promote "OO Sweden"/Free Software day among sport loving students (e.g. team OO Sweden wearing t-shirts with the logo of OO Sweden or the Free software day >>> participants should be students from either KTH or SU because the university pays for the hours at the sports facility) (possibly, depending on the deadline) 4) announcement of the event in Gaudeamus (the official student magazine delivered to the homes of people) The proposals above are the things that we can offer at any rate. If you have other ideas how we can help, dont hesitate to come forward. Relevant Links: Thesis Template tutorial: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Open-Source/OO-Course/OpenOffice-Thesis-Template/ Thesis template: http://www.vodes.net/rev/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,3/Itemid,84/ Other video tutorials: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Open-Source/OO-Course/OpenOffice-Tutorials/ Please help us make better tutorials and provide us with some feedback (what is good; what is bad; what should be included) on the BT forum: http://www.vodes.net/rev/btforum/index.php?topic=157.0 ProFun Games: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/PFG/PFG_GEN/PFG_GEN_EN/ ProFun Games Videos: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Videos/PFG/stockholmvideos/ If there is interest, please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, -- Core Team VN Stockholms Universitets Studentkar Box 50006 10405 Stockholm Sweden - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Video tutorials in many languages
hello, This is in response to the thread "Video tutorials in many languages" (http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=25252) . We tried to reply to this thread, but when logged in there was no "reply" button. Good to see that there are a couple of people interested in making video tutorials for OO. Our foundation made three video tutorials (http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Open-Source/OO-Course/OO-Tutorials/) primarily intended for students. However, we think the tutorials are useful in other, more general, instances as well. Tutorials: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Open-Source/OO-Course/OO-Thesis-Template/. Feel free to tell us whats good and bad about the tutorials on http://www.vodes.net/rev/btforum/index.php?topic=157.0. Our experiences: For the three tutorials we made, we used camstudio (http://www.camstudio.org/; Windows only unfortunately) and we can recommend it without hesitation. The problem we witnessed related to the resolution because of compression that google (and i guess youtube.com) does and the video gets blurry after being uploaded. This is of particular importance because people need to see excatly where people click. In part to remedy this, we added a .torrent file which allows people to get a high quality version of the customising thesis template. At this point we are experimenting with Swish (a program which allows for making flash animations) and audacity. We take screenshots (there are only a few) and add the soundtrack recorded with audacity. We are quite happy with the results - in particular with the legibility and size. Have a look here: http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/Background/BT/Voding/ (12 minutes of good audio quality and legible animations compressed to 3.88 mb). Its a bit time consuming to make a tutorial that way but if the tutorial is made well its an effort worth while. Plus, the animation is easy to modify if one has the indivual pictures. We like it better than WINK because of the flexibility it allows us. Offer to help: We would like to help in any reasonable and thought through effort to make video tutorials for openoffice (see below how we can contribute). Indeed, we see localisation as a key benefit of video tutorials. As for "thought through", I think one should not make a video tutorial for the sake of making a tutorial. As Florian points out, its quite some work and the purpose of a tutorial is still to teach something and not to produce a video. In addition, in many cases this teaching purpose is reached and even more userfriendly and less time consuming simply by writing it down in good old written words. Ive seen all too many video animations that could have been explained in simple written terms. In this respect, the existing OO guide is really comprehensive and it answer quite a lot of questions on how to do things. So it might be useful to have a discussion first on what should be explained and when tutorials are actually better than the existing written documents. I think an excellent way to figure out what is really needed is to "let money decide" (see point 4 below). When is a video tutorial really useful? Still reading this, despite the use of the term "money"? Good. :) Any suggestions when video tutorials are more helpful than written text? To me it seems that they have an edge over written text when it comes to explaining more complex things (like how to use a template) and to "put explained things into context". Regarding localisation, i really like John's idea with subtitles. Its not only rather easy to implement for translators and video editors, but it also brings the huge benefit of being forced to keep the text (to be translated) to the bare essentials. In this respect, aegissub and virtualdub are good programs which allowing for inserting subtitles in .avi easily. How we can contribute: 1) Distribution of video tutorials relevant for students on VN multi-media publications 2) Assistance in localisation (taking care of adding subtitles or adding mp3 soundtracks) 3) Making an improved version of the customising thesis template tutorial (hope there is some concrete critisism) 4) Providing a fund raising platform for creators (Voding option list): http://www.vodes.net/rev/en/voding/(E)-Open-Source/(E)-Tutorials-(OpenOffice)/ As for 1), we can offer adding of useful tutorials on our VN publications (multi-media CD/DVD ROMS intended for students. Among other things, the publication includes video highlights of the events and a section on writing a thesis with OpenOffice. We add the current version of OO, the OO guide, thesis templates and useful video tutorials) Money for creator: As for 4), perhaps companies would chip in some money for the making of a compilation of useful video tutorials? In this respect, perhaps one can get a list of things that are needed the most? one can put them on t
