Re: [marketing] MicroSoft's claims against Oracle's OOo
Well, It's certainly a great new for all of us. It doesn't mean anything. It does mean "We will, we will rock you!". And OOo rocks! Chao - Original Message - From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [marketing] MicroSoft's claims against Oracle's OOo Yeah Alexandro agree with you - At least MSFT does honor the '.org' in OpenOffice.org Also it considers the OOo product a formidable competitor! (that's why the direct comparison) I feel OOo marketing is becoming more & more effective. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Alexandro Colorado To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 4:18 am Subject: Re: [marketing] MicroSoft's claims against Oracle's OOo On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM, wrote:> We got stiff competition folks.>> Check out the website dedicated to Oracle's OpenOffice from MSFT.>> Do you think its a fair comparison?>> Shows OOo marketing is doing a great job.>At least MSFT does honor the '.org' in OpenOffice.org>> Keep it up Guys! Good luck!> Paul>> Here is the text:>>> www.whymicrosoft.com/openoffice>>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article_comments.php/3903621/2/Goodbye-OpenOffice-Nice-Knowing-You.htm>> By Raja Noori September 15 2010 6:12 PMPDT> Thank you Serdar for using Office 2010. I am an Office Product Manager @> Microsoft. Would like to share this link with your readers that outlines why> Office 2010 is a better choice over Open Office:> www.whymicrosoft.com/openoffice>> Also, please note that Office 2010 is available for a 60 days trial period> and can be downloaded from here: www.microsoft.com/office>> -> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org>>-- *Alexandro Colorado**OpenOffice.org* Españolhttp://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Input for the OpenOffice.org appreciated
Hi, What about the Openoffice.org Conference2010,and the 10th Anni. As well as the expecting new release. Cheers Chao - Original Message - From: "Kay Koll" To: Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:52 PM Subject: [marketing] Input for the OpenOffice.org appreciated > Hi, > > I am currently preparing the June edition of the newsletter. Any input, > especially from from the Community projects, is much appreciated. > The newsletter is being received by more than 100,000 readers, so it is > an excellent opportunity to present you activities. > > I do not want stress the mailing list with a draft version, just drop me > a line I will a be happy to send you the latest draft. > > Regards > > Kay > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >
Re: [marketing] Can someone please direct me?
Hi Paul,
Seems that you went to the wrong place to ask the question.
Personanlly, I think the component registration is failed,
try to reinstall it, if you are the developer, try if the the component message
is already correct registerd into the rdb.
Cheers
Chao
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Subject: [marketing] Can someone please direct me?
Hi,
Can someone please direct me to the right place where I can solve this
bug of OOo:
OpenOffice extension gdocs_2.2.0 does not work any more and gives the
error:
(com.sun.star.registry.CannotRegisterImplementationException)
{{Message="",Context=(com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @0}}
Please help,
Thanks Paul
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Re: [marketing] Online Open Office
IMHO, technically, the online OOo is applicable. There are 2 different methods to make it happen, one is the OOo run on server, it accept the request which is much more problem prone. Another is the OOo has already installed on the computer no matter the user knows or not, when required, the OOo will automatically embeded into the browser to meet the needs. the later one is surely good enough. Cheers Chao > On 05/19/2010 12:31 AM, Andy Brown wrote: >> I think your missing a big security problem here. Going C/S will open >> up all kinds of security holes... > > Andy, a browser is an HTTP / HTTPS client connecting to an HTTP server. > Unlike many client-server architectures, HTTP is stateless, which adds > a lot of complexity and errors trying to hack a stateful interface on > top of it. > > /Lars > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >
Re: [marketing] OT OpenOffice vs. OpenOffice.org (was: Re: [marketing] Color)
>> Naming issue again. It makes no sense arguing somehow. Name is a name >> anyway. People actually don't care about the names, if it changed, may cause >> confusing or unconfortable. Let's please focus on the office suit itself > >instead of those ichiness. >> >Wow people don't care about the name... seems you never study branding in >marketing. Most of the time the brand "Google" can make an office suite >matter more than when it was called writley. Well, I never study, but how much end users do? You can teach me the branding thing in marketing. However, people may have the conversation like this "OpenOffice " "NO, OpenOffice.org" "What???" "I mean OpenOffice.org" "What ever." IMHO, no offence. Chao > > >On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Ben Pracht wrote: > > > I still say it'd be better to use something other than .org, even if it > > meant a name change to something close but not trademarked. I don't > think > > names are a light issue either, especially since really, that's the first > > exposure someone's going to have to the product. > > > > Ben > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Christoph Noack > >wrote: > > > > > Hi Ben, > > > > > > I know that this sometimes is a bit ... strange. Especially since > nobody > > > really cares about the proper naming (e.g. in the press). However, here > > > is the reason: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html#4 > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Christoph > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2010, 15:59 -0500 schrieb Ben Pracht: > > > > There's something that's bothered me since I started using OpenOffice > > > which > > > > I wish also got changed, which was the use of OOo or appending .org > at > > > the > > > > end of it. The first one reminds me of the acronym for Out of > Office, > > or > > > > some sort of impolite personal accident. Appending .org seems > > > superfluous. > > > > It's also easier to roll off your tongue if you can just say > OpenOffice > > > or > > > > something like that. I'd suggest the next time branding issues come > up > > > in a > > > > somewhat major way to take up investigating this. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christoph Noack < > > christ...@dogmatux.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Sophie, hi Miroslav! > > > > > > > > > > Miroslav, you asked for the colors in the ODF icons. As I > understood > > > > > Sophie, there might be a chance to improve the usability and > branding > > > of > > > > > the currently ODF-only icons. Personally, I don't know ... there > have > > > > > been many questions, but no real comment by one of the team > members. > > So > > > > > if this is important to you (as it is to me), please follow > Sophie's > > > > > hint to join the branding effort and help us to drive that topic. > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, there has been a request by Bernhard to the > > Community > > > > > Council. He asks why there hasn't been any community involvement > with > > > > > regard to the ODF icons ... currently there are (slow) discussions > > > going > > > > > on. [1] > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Christoph > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Agenda > > > > > (2010-04-29#2< > > > > > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Agenda%0A%282010-04-29#2 > > >Missing > > > OOo desktop presence) > > > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2010, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Sophie: > > > > > > Hi Miroslav, > > > > > > Miroslav Mazel wrote: > > > > > > > We've been discussing the omission of color pretty thoroughly > > since > > > > > > the OOo > > > > > > > branding was changed, but it seems that it lead to... nothing. > Is > > > > > > the lack > > > > > > > of color in application icons and file icons final? Could we > have > > > an > > > > > > > official vote on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not final and if you want to follow/help on this, the > > > > > > discussions happen on the branding list > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > OpenOffice.org Español > http://es.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OT OpenOffice vs. OpenOffice.org (was: Re: [marketing] Color)
Naming issue again. It makes no sense arguing somehow. Name is a name anyway. People actually don't care about the names, if it changed, may cause confusing or unconfortable. Let's please focus on the office suit itself instead of those ichiness. Chao >On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Ben Pracht wrote: > I still say it'd be better to use something other than .org, even if it > meant a name change to something close but not trademarked. I don't think > names are a light issue either, especially since really, that's the first > exposure someone's going to have to the product. > > Ben > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Christoph Noack >wrote: > > > Hi Ben, > > > > I know that this sometimes is a bit ... strange. Especially since nobody > > really cares about the proper naming (e.g. in the press). However, here > > is the reason: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html#4 > > > > Cheers, > > Christoph > > > > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2010, 15:59 -0500 schrieb Ben Pracht: > > > There's something that's bothered me since I started using OpenOffice > > which > > > I wish also got changed, which was the use of OOo or appending .org at > > the > > > end of it. The first one reminds me of the acronym for Out of Office, > or > > > some sort of impolite personal accident. Appending .org seems > > superfluous. > > > It's also easier to roll off your tongue if you can just say OpenOffice > > or > > > something like that. I'd suggest the next time branding issues come up > > in a > > > somewhat major way to take up investigating this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christoph Noack < > christ...@dogmatux.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Sophie, hi Miroslav! > > > > > > > > Miroslav, you asked for the colors in the ODF icons. As I understood > > > > Sophie, there might be a chance to improve the usability and branding > > of > > > > the currently ODF-only icons. Personally, I don't know ... there have > > > > been many questions, but no real comment by one of the team members. > So > > > > if this is important to you (as it is to me), please follow Sophie's > > > > hint to join the branding effort and help us to drive that topic. > > > > > > > > In the meantime, there has been a request by Bernhard to the > Community > > > > Council. He asks why there hasn't been any community involvement with > > > > regard to the ODF icons ... currently there are (slow) discussions > > going > > > > on. [1] > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Christoph > > > > > > > > [1] > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Agenda > > > > (2010-04-29#2< > > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Agenda%0A%282010-04-29#2 > >Missing > > OOo desktop presence) > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2010, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Sophie: > > > > > Hi Miroslav, > > > > > Miroslav Mazel wrote: > > > > > > We've been discussing the omission of color pretty thoroughly > since > > > > > the OOo > > > > > > branding was changed, but it seems that it lead to... nothing. Is > > > > > the lack > > > > > > of color in application icons and file icons final? Could we have > > an > > > > > > official vote on this? > > > > > > > > > > This is not final and if you want to follow/help on this, the > > > > > discussions happen on the branding list > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Hi Peter, Thanks indeed for the information. And I accept the suggestions to vote for attending next time. Cheers Chao > Hi Chao, > > Chaosun wrote: >> Hi Peter and all >> >> Which number are you using to access the confcall? cuz Florian didn't notice >> the access NO in China, so I only tried Skype couple of times. Eventually >> couldn't get connected. > > I was using 'Skype Out' which allows you to dial usual phone numbers. > Finally I have been connecting to the number in the US, which costs > about 3 Euro Cent (0.3 RMB) per minute. Most of the time I'm using Jajah > (http://jajah.com/) for International phone calls, which is at about the > same prices as Skype Out, but my the connecting of my mobile phone was > quite unstable that night. Jajah is a Internet calling service, so you > get connected through a normal phone line rather than VOIP. What I like > best is they have a good WAP page for mobile browsing, hence I can > connect myself with on-board tools anywhere. > >> I do agree with Peter's suggestions, we really need the alternative way to >> support the primary confcall. And please consider the members in China. it >> seems we are out of this all the time. > > As the others already said, please vote, if you intend to join. > > Best regards, > Peter > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
>Hello Chaosun, > >My apology for the copy/paste mistake on the last >email to the Mailing list. > >Drew > > Hi Drew, That's OK, never mind! Cheers, Chao
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
>> Hi Peter and all >> >> Which number are you using to access the confcall? cuz Florian didn't notice >> the access NO in China, so I only tried Skype couple of times. Eventually >> couldn't get connected. >> I do agree with Peter's suggestions, we really need the alternative way to >> support the primary confcall. And please consider the members in China. it >> seems we are out of this all the time. >> >> Chao > > Unfortunately not many people in china voted on the Doodle list. Also > is completely opposite schedule from America. > > So far most of the people in the doodle alert where from Europe except > for 2 from america and 1 from asia. > -- > Alexandro Colorado > OpenOffice.org Español > "Support this 31st March - Document Freedom Day " > http://www.documentfreedom.org > Well, I didn't vote, because I do understand the 7 or 8 hours time difference made people in China quite awkard. And I don't think if I listed on that list will change the schedule, it's better to suit you guys. I certainly try my best to attend it at 10 in the night. I am not making any argument here, I am just saying that as Peter said before, if we could find a better way to do this, considering the poor connection, things could be better. Cheers Chao
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Hi Peter and all Which number are you using to access the confcall? cuz Florian didn't notice the access NO in China, so I only tried Skype couple of times. Eventually couldn't get connected. I do agree with Peter's suggestions, we really need the alternative way to support the primary confcall. And please consider the members in China. it seems we are out of this all the time. Chao
Re: [marketing] OOo Branding
I am definitely one of the advocate of Peter's thought as follow: > Well, I had a peek of following more than 30 OOo mailing lists a while > ago and I was really happy that special topics were discussed on special > lists as my job was to keep up with the 'big picture' of the whole OOo > community. In the end it doesn't really matter if you're getting a > hundred mails from one or several mailing lists. Having several lists > even makes the live of the intensive follower easier as one can apply > pre-sorting of the Inbox using filters. The real issue I see is > transparency, as it sometimes hard to know about the sheer existence of > some specialized mailing lists. > transparency is of course the issue,can't admit of doubt. the efficiency is another issue as I think. Cheers Chao
Re: [marketing] Usage of the name openoffice
Sure, OpenOffice.org and openoffice are tatally different things. > Hi Andreas, > > andreas.moro...@sb-brixen.it wrote (29-01-10 07:51) >> I discovered today that Siemens sells a Unified Communication system ( >> phone exchange ) called HICOM openoffice. >> >> Is this ok ? > > No, it is not, because the Dutch firm OpenOffice is trademark holder for > the EU. (This of course is something different than OpenOffice.org) > > Best regards, > Cor > > -- > >> Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org << > > Cor Nouws > - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact > - Community Council member > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >
Re: [marketing] recording of Marketing ConfCall available
Hi all, Just heard through the recording of the ConfCall. a.. spending the marketing budget wisely I would say that depends on how much budget we have. If it abound, then we should define what are the prerequisite issues. If they are all must, then we close the issue. However,like the OOoCon stuff, personally I think we need more sponsors, and those sort of things are what the marketing guys should do. For instance, we could conbine the OOoCon2010 and the 10s anni together to ask more donations.Or we could simply get rid of the anni due to the budget doesn't meet. a.. OpenOffice.org videos We can have at least a series of official videos, taking the Mac ad. as example."I am a PC, I am a Mac".we can do something like "I am OOo".Of course the objective is to drag morea and more people in. Besides that, we could encourage people to take their own vedios, send them some souvs as the feedback. a.. future of the marketing blog No comment. Cheers Chaosun
