Re: [marketing] Taking advantage of the advertising downturn
Richard Rothwell skrev: Hi, Given the current downturn in TV and press advertising in the UK (and probably most of the rest of the world), is it possible to raise enough money to fund a small ad campaign for OO.org? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/3437837/TV-advertising-now-cheapest-on-record.html: Researchers calculated that the cost of 30 seconds of television advertising now costs just £4.81 per thousand adults. - and that was last November. Alternatives include cinema and press, which are possible. Am I being absurd? Is this possible? Is it impossible to raise, say £10k for such a project? I'd put in £100 if 100 others did - something like pledge bank? Many of the money used for tv commercials is creating the commercial it self. I have an idea to just use Impress and save it as a Macromedia Flash which is just filmed from a computer visiting the website where the commercial is. First in a small browser window which is later enhanced to most of the screen showing the zooming of a Flash presentation to the actual window size This is created only using the presentation application OpenOffice.org Impress - exported as a Flash file - uploaded at a webpage - which is filmed by a camera OpenOffice.org is a full office suite with the textwriter spreadsheet drawingtool and database Get it for free at OpenOffice.org OpenOffice.org (zoom the windows to almost nothing) No sound at all which will attract the viewer because they are used to loud commercials so they be concerned that there suddenly is no noise in an advertising block. Just my idea to do it - cheap. -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Project Owner ##== Requirements Project Management Tool c...@openoffice.org Design/model Subproject Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard skrev: I have put online my slides, and the patches I commented there : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/FOSDEM2009 Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files? Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash player - but who doesn't)? Great introduction to get into the source code. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool c...@openoffice.org Design/model Subproject Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] after FOSDEM 2009
eric.bachard wrote: Claus Agerskov a écrit : eric.bachard skrev: Why don't you export the presentations as Macromedia Flash (.swf) files? Because I'm a Linux user on platforms since a long time (more than 10 years) and it was badly working since a long time (e.g. on Linux PowerPC), so I don't have the habits to export in such formats :-) Nevertheless, if someone want to export them as MacroSomething ( tm, propriatory, Adobe), no problem for me. Really :-) Would you have the Flash-versions along the others? Then I will send them to you so you can upload them. Then all can see them directly in their browser (if they have a Flash player - but who doesn't)? Me ? :p Sorry, but that's true : I don't use flash at all .. I didn't either until two years ago - also a Linux-user (since 1998). The Flash-version zooms so it fits the size of the browser window or frame. And you just click at the slide to go to the next. Very smart if you want a presentation on your website. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool c...@openoffice.org Design/model Subproject Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] video contest idea / chat meeting?
Rosana Ardila Biela skrev: Hi all, Sorry for getting back to you so late. I think there is interest in the contest and I agree with Alexandro that it could be a marketing strategy itself. I think we could work generally on a video/multimedia strategy for OOo, not only with the contest. In the next months I will be also working on videos for OOo, when I have more details I'll ask you for your feedback. I would like to propose a OOo video strategy chat. It would be great to have a live chat, so we can brainstorm and get working. Is anyone interested in joining me? I'm kind of a newbie, so maybe you can tell me which IRC channel fits best for this and what time is the best for all. I would suggest early next week as a date for the chat. Back in 2002 at GUADEC in Sevilla some of the active from OpenOffice.org said some catching lines to a digital camera. I don't remember who had the camera but Stefan Taxhet, Danese Cooper, Zaheda Bhorat and myself was some of the ones who said quotes to and got filmed. Maybe we should plan to film a similar video for the next OOoCon. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool c...@openoffice.org Design/model Subproject Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Jacqueline McNally wrote: The OpenOffice.org project guidelines suggest communications of these types of decisions privately, and I remember you yourself said praise on-list and critique off-list. Yes critique - but telling MarCons to leave their position is not critism but kicking them out. I disagree with this approach when it comes down to the situation we have at hand. You don't know what the situation will be - some will leave without saying nothing at all others (like Ryan) will say goodbye in a quiet way and I would have fought if it was me. OpenOffice.org is an open source project and you cannot use the usually business or corporate way to manage situations. Kicking people off the projects without taking an open discussion and hearing what the rest of the project members have to say is not the open source way - not if it have to succeed in the long run. If you only criticise off list then only the one who is criticised will see what is criticizable so the rest of the project members does not learn from it. And the rest of the project members can't respond if your critism is wrong. You can view criticizable behavior as a bug - and in open source projects bugs are discussed openly. I will only now consider public critique to Ryan at his request. When you become a member of an open source project you will be a target of public critic - escpecially from you peers. The Project Leads are responsible for the recruitment of and liaison with MarCons. Usually, potential candidates contact us, as two did earlier this week. The What Do MarCons Do? is a minimum, and I'm happy to say that most of the MarCons exceed these requirements. And where did Ryan not meet the What Do MarCons Do?? http://ooosmp.homelinux.org/GoalsandObjectives/MarketingProject The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Major Deployments of OOo
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, [iso-8859-15] Lars D. Noodén wrote: How should we do alternate links if there are multiple articles covering the same deployment or shoud we not worry. e.g. http://europa.eu.int/idabc/en/document/3434/469 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/23/ms_holland_talks_off/ Use sublist (two asterix) for each. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] You cannot sell your license to use Microsoft Office to others
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, RicMedia (Richie Brereton) wrote: ... I have since sold my copy of MS office to some poor fella. If you had read the End User License Agreement for Microsoft Office you would know that you cannot sell your license to others. So the poor fella is now a software pirat in the eyes of BSA and Microsoft. All the other things you write about is great though. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] CompareOffice - another OOo clone...
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to make the list a little bit longer, here's another OOo clone packaged with manuals and sold: http://www.comparesoft.com/compareoffice.html If it is based on the OpenOffice.org 2.0 source code then it is under the LGPL. It is interesting to see if they have the right license for the suite. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Templates
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Eric Peterson wrote: Is there a reason that the templates aren't included when you download the program? To keep the downloadable file at a reasonable size. I think it is something end users would look for? Maybe there should be an easy way to install templates and add-ons as part of the install - maybe an extended option. Most people I talk with use the wizards and templates in Word to create most new documents. Most users I know use existing documents instead of templates. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Templates
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Rodney wrote: When you open MS Office, you are presented with a wide range of templates and wizzards that make the building of useful pages easy. In OO we could use a resume page in writer, financial calculations in calc, presentation designs in impress and asset control in Base. The more prebuilt templates the easier to use this is and this will increase your install base by work of mouth advertising. Have you looked at File - Autopilot? The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Install sizes?
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote: There was a study on this done some time ago basically show the installer size, the memory consumption size and so on. Problem it's in spanish. The URL is the following: http://es.openoffice.org/files/documents/73/2804/prousuarios_II.sxi The actual data is on slide 3 Here is the data from slide 3 (ASCII formatted): Requerimientos de memoria RAM (Mb) MsOfficeOpenOffice.org --- Módulo base N/D 45 Módulo base Excel 22 3 Calc Word16 2 Writer Power Point 25 4 Impress Paint 6 2 Draw Front Page 14 2 Writer html Access 10 3 Base --- Total 93 61 === The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov #=== Analyze OpenOffice.org Content Developer Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Stuck at document recovery
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Dark Magician wrote: Hi I am an Ubuntu 5.1 user. There is no Ubuntu 5.1. The version number system used by Ubuntu is years without the leading 200 following by a period followed by two digits for the month. So your Ubuntu is either 5.04 or 5.10. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Is Massachusetts' OpenDocument decision on the rocks?
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Deepankar Datta wrote: Two good reads http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2057 http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/10/25/galvin_attacks_software_proposal/ Quote from the last article: Microsoft so far has refused to make its Office software compatible with OpenDocument. The company has attacked Quinn's plan, saying it will impose unnecessary costs on state government. I don't know the source for Microsofts attack where they say implementing the OpenDocument format will impose unnecessary costs. As I see it it is Microsoft who is imposing unnecessary costs on state government. And here is why: Microsoft will impose their own Microsoft Office Open XML Format in Microsoft Office 12 which is planned to be released in 2006. This format will not be under a license that OpenOffice.org can use and therefore Microsoft impose offices who would otherwise use OpenOffice.org to migrate which is a significant cost. If Microsoft chose OpenDocument as one of their supported formats for both reading and writing then the offices using Microsoft Office today could still be using Microsoft Office (the new version 12) so they would not have higher costs than migrating to Microsoft Office 12 only with the Microsoft Office Open XML Format. So as long as Microsoft Office is not supporting the OpenDocument format then Microsoft is imposing unnecessary costs on state government. I hope anyone within OpenOffice.org Marketing know who could rewrite this to correct English and give it to the right sources so it is heard that it is Microsoft who impose - not the choose of OpenDocument - unnecessary costs. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov #=== Analyze OpenOffice.org Content Developer Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OpenDoc plug-in for MS Office users
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Deepankar Datta wrote: http://ooonewsletter.blogspot.com/2005/10/opendoc-plug-in-for-ms- office-users.html The short name of the format is OpenDocument. OpenDoc is another format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc So please use the correct short name. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OOo and Java
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Nicu Buculei wrote: (iii) you do not distribute additional software intended to replace any component(s) of the Software This is almost the case when you are dealing with non free software. so it MAY or MAY NOT be distributed along with a version of OOo built with GCC 4/GCJ? Do you need JRE when OOo is built with GCC 4/GCJ? The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Daniel is hired by Microsoft
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Daniel Carrera wrote: I was hired as a technical writer for Microsoft's Office division. I showed them my OOoAuthors work as a portolio, and they liked it. John Durant was impressed by my Styles chapter. I will be working on the Microsoft Office Developer Center: http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/ Is that the same center at Microsoft where Linus Thorvalds, Richard M. Stallman and Eric S. Raymond also starts today April 1st 2005? The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] openoffice's clone in france...
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: I think that Sophie Gautier has been talking to them for some time now. Besides, they have the right to do that, even though it's not very ethical... Why is that not very ethical? It is my opinion that creating specific office suites based on OpenOffice.org is a good thing so long the comply with the licenses and doesn't change the fileformat or API if they release their suite as closed source software. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] OOo and Java
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Jacqueline McNally wrote: There are many community members quoted in the article so it may be raised on [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a marketing pov how do or will you respond to the issues raised in the article and added as comments? I see it as a problem that you have to install Java to run some of the things that is important for new users like running the database and the Writer wizards. When a new user has installed OOo then they might face that it is not working properly and gets error messages because an Java Runetime Environment isn't installed. Then they will not see OOo as a whole suite but a suite missing some key features when installed. It is also a problem that you can't sell OOo as a free solutions where you don't have to depend on one single company - one of the key features of Open Source. You are not depended on a single company strategy like putting fees on the runtime environment. I will suggest Sun to either license the Java Runtime Environment under a true Open Source and Free Software license or recode the parts of OOo which are depending on Java. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Re: [discuss] Is Java the most widespread Internet language?
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Justin Clift wrote: Lars D. Noodén wrote: I would agree with Claus' suggestions and prefer the definition a widespread platform independent language Widespread is just too hard a metric to define, though I think Perl is still probably most common and wide spread, and distracts from the main point which is less controversial. Hmmm... how about a widespread language aiming for platform independence? Java's definitely not platform independent (ie. try running it on *BSD... big problems). English is not my mother tongue but as I understand it then independent means you are not depended on one platform like Sun Solaris but can use other platforms - not all platforms. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Fwd: OOo 2.0 flash demo
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Mike Williams wrote: We need to know what the most important things are to include: + Writer + Calc + Impress + Draw + Base + OpenDocument Base is something that many users has asked for. OpenDocument is the first open standard for office application document which is standard format for at least three office suites (StarOffice, OpenOffice.org and Koffice) and is recommanded by EU. The most enjoayble greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Conference MP3's ?
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Daniel Carrera wrote: Okay, I got the MP3s. Thanks! Why not upload the mp3s at the OpenOffice.org webserver so all can listen to them? The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus AgerskovKan jeg, så kan du også Helper/HjælperHenrik Dahl i DRs Rabatten om OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ooo.chbs.dk/ http://da.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]