[Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Jonathon Blake
All:

I'
This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo
project a Christmas present:

i): Jacqueline McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ii) : Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

The Christmas present I ask of them

Their _immediate_ resignation from _all_ FLOSS projects that they are
currently involved in.

The reason:

Their messages have repeatedly demonstrates an intolerance and
abhorrence of the bazaar model, that is required for a FLOSS project
to be success full.

xan

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Re: [Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Steven Shelton

Jonathon Blake wrote:

All:

I'
This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo
project a Christmas present:

i): Jacqueline McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ii) : Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

The Christmas present I ask of them

Their _immediate_ resignation from _all_ FLOSS projects that they are
currently involved in.
  


ENOUGH.

This crap has gone on long enough. If you want to wage personal little 
battles with others, do it off-list. I'm tired of wading through 800 
messages of third-grade tantrums and name-calling to find the one 
message actually related to the project. We're all big boys and girls 
around here and we should be able to handle these kinds of disagreements 
in a mature manner. Quite frankly, this kind of public whining irritates 
me more than any of the allegations aimed at either Louis or Jacqueline 
at this point, even if they were true. (And, to be honest, I couldn't 
care less if they are or not.)


So grow up, take it off list, and stop spamming me with this crap.

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Re: [Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts

Hi,

On 2005-12-21, at 13:55 , Steven Shelton wrote:


Jonathon Blake wrote:

All:

I'
This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo
project a Christmas present:

i): Jacqueline McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ii) : Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

The Christmas present I ask of them

Their _immediate_ resignation from _all_ FLOSS projects that they are
currently involved in.



ENOUGH.


Indeed. Thanks. As our mail list guidelines point out, these lists  
are for OOo use and collaboration, not for personal tirades.


In case you are curious about which guidelines I refer to, see http:// 
www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html


Cheers,

Louis



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Re: [Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts

Jonathan,


On 2005-12-21, at 13:29 , Jonathon Blake wrote:


All:

I'
This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo
project a Christmas present:


It's nice to be thought of at this time of year with such warmth, but  
the rule of a project like OOo is that we do not use the lists for  
our own personal grievances.  As Steve Shelton pointed out on  
Marketing, ENOUGH.  We have had enough of personal attacks,  
misrepresentations, tantrums, distractions, and other generally  
unpleasant behaviour on that list.  And enough is enough.


Best,

Louis

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Re: [Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Eric Renaud

Adam Moore wrote:


I'll say that this may have not been the best post, but can you point
us to where we take our grievances? Maybe it will help us keep posts
like this off of this list and directed to the right place.
 


Grievances should be directed to the Community Council.

Personal attacks should be directed only at the intended victim.  Not 
doing so creates collateral that is messy and

really turns people off to constructive forums.


On 12/21/05, Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Jonathan,


On 2005-12-21, at 13:29 , Jonathon Blake wrote:

   


All:

I'
This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo
project a Christmas present:
 


It's nice to be thought of at this time of year with such warmth, but
the rule of a project like OOo is that we do not use the lists for
our own personal grievances.  As Steve Shelton pointed out on
Marketing, ENOUGH.  We have had enough of personal attacks,
misrepresentations, tantrums, distractions, and other generally
unpleasant behaviour on that list.  And enough is enough.

Best,

Louis

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Re: [Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts

Hi Adam,


On 2005-12-21, at 15:35 , Adam Moore wrote:


I'll say that this may have not been the best post, but can you point
us to where we take our grievances? Maybe it will help us keep posts
like this off of this list and directed to the right place.


Sure.
If any user has problems with the project (OOo big or small;  
individual or overall stuff), then the Council is always there to  
hear the user.  You can send things to [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
or directly to me or Laurent Godard, if you'd rather send them to  
him.  (He's laurentgodard at openoffice.org).  You can, also, if you  
like, send comments to the other council members. I just updated  
their email addresses. You can expect fair and reasonably quick  
responses to all submissions, though keep in mind it's holiday season.


Cheers,

Louis





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Re: [Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Adam Moore
I'll say that this may have not been the best post, but can you point
us to where we take our grievances? Maybe it will help us keep posts
like this off of this list and directed to the right place.

On 12/21/05, Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jonathan,


 On 2005-12-21, at 13:29 , Jonathon Blake wrote:

  All:
 
  I'
  This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo
  project a Christmas present:

 It's nice to be thought of at this time of year with such warmth, but
 the rule of a project like OOo is that we do not use the lists for
 our own personal grievances.  As Steve Shelton pointed out on
 Marketing, ENOUGH.  We have had enough of personal attacks,
 misrepresentations, tantrums, distractions, and other generally
 unpleasant behaviour on that list.  And enough is enough.

 Best,

 Louis

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