Re: [Marketing] new download page (again)

2006-03-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I've just noticed something else. The "Select your operating 
system" dropdown list includes FreeBSD, but if I go to the System 
Requirements page, 
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html, there 
is nothing listed there for FreeBSD.


--Jean

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Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Chad Smith
On 3/8/06, Bruce Byfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> For that matter, people whom I've urged to try OOo have asked me what
> "JRE" means.marketing.openoffice.org
>

How about a separate link to Java?  No "with or without JRE".

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Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 06:39 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

> However, I still have one problem with the dropdown lists in the 
> expanded "Download OpenOffice.org" section of the page. The 
> choices for Windows are "Windows (incl. JRE)" and "Windows 
> (without JRE)". (And similar choices for Linux, etc.) It is not 
> clear to me, and I'm sure it will be equally unclear to the 
> average user, which one of these should be chosen if I already 
> have JRE installed on my computer. Does "(incl. JRE)" mean the 
> download includes JRE, or the download is for a Windows system 
> that already has JRE on it?

For that matter, people whom I've urged to try OOo have asked me what
"JRE" means.

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Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Steven Shelton

Chad Smith wrote:

(a)

incl. JRE means the download includes the JRE - therefore, if you do not
have the JRE - this is the one you choose.

Without JRE means the download is without a JRE - therefore, if you already
have (or do not want) the JRE - this is the one you choose.

Maybe we could change it to be:

Windows (JRE included)
Windows

or

Windows (with JRE)
Windows (without JRE)

or would we still run into the same problem?  Anytime you say something as
short as possible - you leave yourself open for misunderstanding, especially
when you get in to implied negatives, double negatives, many ways to look at
it, etc.  No?


I think "Windows (with JRE)" and "Windows (without JRE)" would be just 
as confusing: do you mean the package includes the JRE, or is it for 
Windows already running the JRE?


The Windows (JRE included)" is a good improvement, I think.

I'd also like to see some upgrade information on the installation (or 
even download) page. For instance, can I just install the new version 
over 2.0.1, or do I need to uninstall/reinstall?


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Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Chad Smith
On 3/8/06, Jean Hollis Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Please (a) tell me the answer, and (b) add something to the page
> to make it unambiguous.



(a)

incl. JRE means the download includes the JRE - therefore, if you do not
have the JRE - this is the one you choose.

Without JRE means the download is without a JRE - therefore, if you already
have (or do not want) the JRE - this is the one you choose.

Maybe we could change it to be:

Windows (JRE included)
Windows

or

Windows (with JRE)
Windows (without JRE)

or would we still run into the same problem?  Anytime you say something as
short as possible - you leave yourself open for misunderstanding, especially
when you get in to implied negatives, double negatives, many ways to look at
it, etc.  No?

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http://www.gimpshop.net/
http://www.whatisopenoffice.org/
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Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber

Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
If you've tried to download OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 (you know, the one  
with the magical dictionaries), you may have noticed a new download  
page. And if you did, you'll have noticed how clean, how nice, how  
usable it is.

[snip]

We'll continue to update and enhance it as needed


Indeed, that page is a huge improvement. My thanks also to all 
who worked on it.


However, I still have one problem with the dropdown lists in the 
expanded "Download OpenOffice.org" section of the page. The 
choices for Windows are "Windows (incl. JRE)" and "Windows 
(without JRE)". (And similar choices for Linux, etc.) It is not 
clear to me, and I'm sure it will be equally unclear to the 
average user, which one of these should be chosen if I already 
have JRE installed on my computer. Does "(incl. JRE)" mean the 
download includes JRE, or the download is for a Windows system 
that already has JRE on it?


Please (a) tell me the answer, and (b) add something to the page 
to make it unambiguous.


Trivial copy-editing note: there are spaces missing after two of 
the commas in the second paragraph.


--Jean

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Re: [Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 09 March 2006 06:31, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
> All,
>
> If you've tried to download OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 (you know, the one
> with the magical dictionaries), you may have noticed a new download
> page. And if you did, you'll have noticed how clean, how nice, how
> usable it is.

Hi Louis,

Just had a look. The british English (English English?) download page has at 
least three spelling errors. How do I help by correcting this type of thing 
on the web site?

Mike Williams

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[Marketing] new download page

2006-03-08 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts

All,

If you've tried to download OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 (you know, the one  
with the magical dictionaries), you may have noticed a new download  
page. And if you did, you'll have noticed how clean, how nice, how  
usable it is.


Our thanks must go to Maarten Brouwers, who in the space of about two  
days designed it. Sure, he had lots of help from the website team,  
including Chad Smith, Kay Schenk, Christian Lohmaier, Dough Thompson,  
and James, of 8daysaweek, but he's the one who mainly did it.


Thanks.

We'll continue to update and enhance it as needed, including adding  
the German project's server randomizer.


Meanwhile

Thanks to the developers and many, many other contributors who have  
made OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 great. My own personal thanks to Éric  
Bachard and the Mac OS X team for the fantastic and really beautiful  
Mac OS X (X11) version. It's super.


Cheers,

Louis

 

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