Re: [Marketing] the beginning of the end for closed documents
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 08:54 +0100, Claus Agerskov wrote: > No - the beginning of the end for closed documents started with the future > development of the OpenOffice.org 1.0 XML format moved to the independent > standardization organization OASIS in December 2003 or the release of > OpenDocument 1.0 in May 2005. > > Microsoft would never had picked the "open" way if they wasn't under > pressure from OpenDocument as a future open ISO standard. And why choose to produce a different standard for the sake of it if they don't intend to use it to lock people in at some time in the future? OOo marketing needs to ensure people understand two things very clearly 1. MS did not initiate open file formats, OOo did 2. MS have shown they are not trustworthy in these matters time and tiome again. They say one thing and do another or at the last minute make minor changes that have major effect hafter milking the PR. We need to challenge that every step of the way. -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] the beginning of the end for closed documents
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 23:19 -0500, Steven Shelton wrote: > > Sadly, I'm skeptical, but if they do actually follow through, then I say > good for them and I'll have to give them some props for doing the right > thing. I'd say given the track record on similar issues in the past I'd have thought anyone with a brain would not only be sceptical but down right suspicious. Especislly when they try to make it out as if its some great MS idea and favour to the world. Look at them breaking HTML, Java etc. What is to stop them getting a standard ratified and then adding an extension to lock it in to MSO whenever a file is opened or saved? What is the motivation behind inventing a different yet functionally almost identical standard to the one that already exists and was backed by every other player? If they intend to be truly open that doesn't make any sense at all. -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] the beginning of the end for closed documents
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Chad Smith wrote: > Microsoft to standardize Office formats > > http://news.com.com/Microsoft+to+standardize+Office+formats/2100-1012_3-5965443.html > > From the article: > > "Moving to standard as an open standard will place a level of trust on the > technology that will give people the confidence to get behind it," said Alan > Yates, general manager of Microsoft's information worker strategy. "We look > forward to the day when people look at this as a milestone, as the beginning > of the end for closed documents." No - the beginning of the end for closed documents started with the future development of the OpenOffice.org 1.0 XML format moved to the independent standardization organization OASIS in December 2003 or the release of OpenDocument 1.0 in May 2005. Microsoft would never had picked the "open" way if they wasn't under pressure from OpenDocument as a future open ISO standard. The most enjoyable greetings -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject http://ooo.chbs.dk/ Implement http://oopm.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] the beginning of the end for closed documents
Chad Smith wrote: Microsoft to standardize Office formats http://news.com.com/Microsoft+to+standardize+Office+formats/2100-1012_3-5965443.html >From the article: "Moving to standard as an open standard will place a level of trust on the technology that will give people the confidence to get behind it," said Alan Yates, general manager of Microsoft's information worker strategy. "We look forward to the day when people look at this as a milestone, as the beginning of the end for closed documents." -- What do you all think? Sadly, I'm skeptical, but if they do actually follow through, then I say good for them and I'll have to give them some props for doing the right thing. -- Steven Shelton Twilight Media & Design www.TwilightMD.com www.GLOAMING.us - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] the beginning of the end for closed documents
Microsoft to standardize Office formats http://news.com.com/Microsoft+to+standardize+Office+formats/2100-1012_3-5965443.html >From the article: "Moving to standard as an open standard will place a level of trust on the technology that will give people the confidence to get behind it," said Alan Yates, general manager of Microsoft's information worker strategy. "We look forward to the day when people look at this as a milestone, as the beginning of the end for closed documents." -- What do you all think? -- - Chad Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/ Because everyone loves free software!
