Re: [Marketing] Website Upgrade Marketing Input - download counting widget

2007-12-16 Thread Italo Vignoli

Benjamin Horst wrote:

I don't want us to not do something cool, because we can't yet do it 
perfectly. Let's start, and then refine as we can.


In Italy, since I've started announcing the download numbers, these have 
started to increase quite steadily.


I have created a Google Calendar where I publish daily the number of the 
downloads of the Italian version. I know this is not a high level 
solution, but it's what I'm able to handle.


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Re: [Marketing] Website Upgrade Marketing Input - download counting widget

2007-12-16 Thread Benjamin Horst

Indeed the link reads as you say. That's funny!

However, there is a functional RSS feed provided by Mozilla (look in  
the top right on the linked page). From an RSS feed, we can make  
widgets, so I think we will be fine if we can generate a feed.


I know any serious statistician will find our ways of measuring  
downloads to be inconclusive, but as long as we have a consistent  
methodology, we'll still be able to use the information. And end  
users will find it valuable even if they know it's not perfect.


We have a statistics project and a page listing estimated downloads  
(I don't know when it was last updated, it may be falling behind).  
For now, let's just use that number and make it into an RSS feed and  
widget tool. We'll worry about the next step later.


I don't want us to not do something cool, because we can't yet do it  
perfectly. Let's start, and then refine as we can.


-Ben

On Dec 16, 2007, at 3:09 PM, John McCreesh wrote:


On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 12:51 -0500, Benjamin Horst wrote:

An idea for a small component that I think should be a part of the
new webpage:

An OOo downloads counter. Build it as a widget that can be syndicated
to lots of other sites too. (Just like our friends at Firefox have
done: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/15143)


Which reads:

"Our community has created a number of tools to enable you to  
syndicate

this number with ease through a variety of mediums:

Sorry, these all broke."

?

I wish we had an accurate way of recording downloads / users ...

John

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Re: [Marketing] Website Upgrade Marketing Input - download counting widget

2007-12-16 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 12:51 -0500, Benjamin Horst wrote:
> An idea for a small component that I think should be a part of the  
> new webpage:
> 
> An OOo downloads counter. Build it as a widget that can be syndicated  
> to lots of other sites too. (Just like our friends at Firefox have  
> done: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/15143)

Which reads:

"Our community has created a number of tools to enable you to syndicate
this number with ease through a variety of mediums:

Sorry, these all broke."

?

I wish we had an accurate way of recording downloads / users ...

John

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Re: [Marketing] Website Upgrade Marketing Input - download counting widget

2007-12-16 Thread Paul F. Olson

On 12/16/2007 12:51 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote:
An idea for a small component that I think should be a part of the new 
webpage:


An OOo downloads counter. Build it as a widget that can be syndicated to 
lots of other sites too. (Just like our friends at Firefox have done: 
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/15143)


Other sites and blogs, like those of many of us and our friends, can 
display the widget to help spread awareness of the popularity of OOo 
downloads much more broadly. As people see how popular we are already, 
they'll be more comfortable giving OOo a try.


Nice idea!

Paul


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Re: [Marketing] Website Upgrade Marketing Input - download counting widget

2007-12-16 Thread Benjamin Horst
An idea for a small component that I think should be a part of the  
new webpage:


An OOo downloads counter. Build it as a widget that can be syndicated  
to lots of other sites too. (Just like our friends at Firefox have  
done: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/15143)


Other sites and blogs, like those of many of us and our friends, can  
display the widget to help spread awareness of the popularity of OOo  
downloads much more broadly. As people see how popular we are  
already, they'll be more comfortable giving OOo a try.


-Ben

On Dec 15, 2007, at 11:53 PM, teja wrote:


Hey Guys,

How about this:

"Open Minds, Open Solutions"

Thanx and regards,
Tejesh
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All,

The Web-Dev team are in discussions about a new home page.

Louis has asked that the guiding principle for it to be "Increase  
Downloads"
Given the less than successful result of our last campaign, it's  
easy to agree

with the sentiment.

I gave the whole thing a lot of thought and came up with a few  
issues, which I
have already stated but I'll state again here so we're all on the  
same page.


One:  The step from Click through to Download is too big
Two:  The home page is not geared toward turning the casual arrival  
into a

downloader
Three: The Homepage is geared too high in terms  User sophistication
Four:  The home page is somewhat confused as to it's target audience

I agree with Louis about the portal.openoffice.org and that the  
content that

is at present on the home page would best be at portal.

This leaves www.openoffice.org to be an index or set of signposts  
that reflect

the needs of our Users

We identified 3 major groups

1)  Curious arrivals This arrival came here out of mild
curiosity, he clicked a link in a Google ad or a context ad or a  
Keyword.
There is no intention to download. His motivation is curiosity The  
answer
to his "What Now " question is on the button marked "I want to  
learn more

about OpenOffice.org"

2) Informed arrivals, they know what they're here for they clicked  
on a link

deliberately to come to OOo. they could be either First Timers or
Upgraders or Users needing help

3) Cognoscenti, They are active community members and
have been to the point where they know their way around. They don't  
require
big buttons or graphics just text links that are in familiar places  
and in
fact they don't come here often preferring to link directly to  
their place of

interest.

However all of these groups have needs that overlap so in terms of the
navigation from the Homepage we needed to look at the demographics  
in terms

of needs or wants.

Using that criteria I identified Four major Demographics amongst  
our site

visitors:

1) Casual arrivals
2) Upgraders
3) Users Requiring help
4) Developers and potential contributors

In group 1 are pretty much all of the people who clicked on our  
Google ads.

They don't really have a reason to be here other than some level of
curiosity

In group 2 we have our regular downloaders who return for each new  
version as
it is released.  These people want to get to the download button  
quickly


Groups 3 and 4 are self explanatory.

It's obvious that close to  ALL our increase in downloads is going  
to come

from Group 1 while Group two keeps things ticking over.

With all of the above in mind

I suggested using action statements
Four at this stage but I can think of perhaps two more but no more  
IMHO


The action statements are aimed at each of our demographics and  go  
like this


"I want to learn more about Openoffice.org"  Target = Casual  
Arrivals. link to

why.openoffice.org
"I want to download OpenOffice.org now" Target = Upgraders link to
download.openoffice.org
"I want help with OpenOffice.org" Target = Group 3 link to
support.openoffice.org
"I want to help OpenOffice.org" = Group 4 link to  
contribute.openoffice.org


I've coded up a simple demo here

http://ooogear.co.nz/splash_prop.html which is a coded version of  
an idea from

Ivan M on the Art List.  This is minus all trimmings

This is another treatment done by me from a version modified by  
Ivan of a

Nikash original.  :)  A very opensource piece of art

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/mwiki/images/5/52/Siteconcept2.png


There has been a lot of discussion on both the art and WebDev list.

Mostly around the idea  of using the action statements

I'm trying to come at it from a marketing/sales POV

For the Casual arrival the learn more takes them to the Why page.  
My assertion
is that once having read the info in the Why page the step to the  
download is

a considerably smaller one for a casual arrival.

We know that we're getting the landings, we just are not turning  
that into

downloads.  I think this will go a long way toward doing that.

This needs input from Marketing people.  At present I'm the only