Re: Hangout summary?

2014-07-10 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Hangouts don't contain any decision nor precise deep analysis on topics or 
work to be done: they are discussions to let people think, share concerns. 
They are recorded, to be able for anybody to hear discussions back and 
eventually write down something if some points starts to give sufficiently 
precise ideas on a proposal which can be followed by concrete developments.

To me, these Hangouts are like discussions during an ApacheCon conference: 
they are discussions, which are good to let people know each other, share 
ideas. But the work to define a plan is still to be done.

I don't know when something like a plan will happen, or even if it will ever 
happen. But discussions are good.
But when a plan on a topic will be done, yes, it will have to be written down 
to be worked on not only by people who listened to the Hangout (live or 
recorded): my hope is that it will be easier to write something because a part 
of the concerns will have been already shared.

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 9 juillet 2014 14:16:06 Olivier Lamy a écrit :
 I don't really mind participating.
 I just want to be able to read what happened in an async way (notes in
 our wiki or in the web site).
 As it I'm able to react on something I will read (even if I don't
 participate in this hangout or in an irc discussion)
 
 IMHO a lot of people are in the same state.
 
 Olivier
 
 On 4 July 2014 07:52, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote:
  On 4 Jul 2014, at 9:33, Robert Scholte wrote:
  If I'm correct, following have joined at least 2 times or are Maven PMC
  22:00-23:00 (CEST) Robert Scholte, Hervé Boutemy, Karl-Heinz Marbaise,
  Mark Struberg
  21:00-22:00 (IST) Stephen Connolly
  
  The current time for me is 8am Friday - with a 30-40 minute drive to the
  office before hand ( in order to start work at 9:15ish ).
  
  Any earlier would be harsh for me, but better for any .au folk.
  
  Mark
  
  
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Re: Hangout summary?

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Struberg
I can join pretty much every time from 9:00to 23:00 CEST. Just have been on a 
conference last week.

LieGrue,
strub



On Thursday, 10 July 2014, 8:44, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 



Hangouts don't contain any decision nor precise deep analysis on topics or 
work to be done: they are discussions to let people think, share concerns. 
They are recorded, to be able for anybody to hear discussions back and 
eventually write down something if some points starts to give sufficiently 
precise ideas on a proposal which can be followed by concrete developments.

To me, these Hangouts are like discussions during an ApacheCon conference: 
they are discussions, which are good to let people know each other, share 
ideas. But the work to define a plan is still to be done.

I don't know when something like a plan will happen, or even if it will ever 
happen. But discussions are good.
But when a plan on a topic will be done, yes, it will have to be written down 
to be worked on not only by people who listened to the Hangout (live or 
recorded): my hope is that it will be easier to write something because a part 
of the concerns will have been already shared.

Regards,

Hervé


Le mercredi 9 juillet 2014 14:16:06 Olivier Lamy a écrit :
 I don't really mind participating.
 I just want to be able to read what happened in an async way (notes in
 our wiki or in the web site).
 As it I'm able to react on something I will read (even if I don't
 participate in this hangout or in an irc discussion)
 
 IMHO a lot of people are in the same state.
 
 Olivier
 
 On 4 July 2014 07:52, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote:
  On 4 Jul 2014, at 9:33, Robert Scholte wrote:
  If I'm correct, following have joined at least 2 times or are Maven PMC
  22:00-23:00 (CEST) Robert Scholte, Hervé Boutemy, Karl-Heinz Marbaise,
  Mark Struberg
  21:00-22:00 (IST) Stephen Connolly
  
  The current time for me is 8am Friday - with a 30-40 minute drive to the
  office before hand ( in order to start work at 9:15ish ).
  
  Any earlier would be harsh for me, but better for any .au folk.
  
  Mark
  
  
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Site Plugin version 3.4 (take 2)

2014-07-10 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
here is my +1

Regards,

Hervé

Le lundi 7 juillet 2014 21:24:10 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 We solved 13 issues:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11146styleName=H
 tmlversion=19228
 
 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=11146sta
 tus=1
 
 Staging repo:
 http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1038/
 http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1038/org/apache/mave
 n/plugins/maven-site-plugin/3.4/maven-site-plugin-3.4-source-release.zip
 
 Source release checksum(s):
 maven-site-plugin-3.4-source-release.zip sha1:
 1829a518c037334b4fd6bde40b33a34344ff1af6
 
 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-site-plugin-LATEST/
 
 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
 Vote open for 72 hours.
 
 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Source Plugin version 2.3

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Scholte

I'll test it tonight

Robert

Op Thu, 10 Jul 2014 06:49:48 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise  
khmarba...@gmx.de:



Hi,

really no one?

kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
  Hi,


We solved 5 issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11147version=18848


There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MSOURCES%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC


Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1040

http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1040/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-source-plugin/2.3/maven-source-plugin-2.3-source-release.zip


Source release checksum(s):
maven-source-plugin-2.3-source-release.zip
  sha1: 351db6ba2fec1e27bf60ed0a5e7683ca3ab925c0

Staging site:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-source-plugin-LATEST/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

[ ] +1
[ ] +0
[ ] -1

Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Source Plugin version 2.3

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Scholte

+1

Op Tue, 08 Jul 2014 22:09:19 +0200 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise  
khmarba...@gmx.de:



Hi,

We solved 5 issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11147version=18848

There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MSOURCES%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC

Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1040

http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1040/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-source-plugin/2.3/maven-source-plugin-2.3-source-release.zip

Source release checksum(s):
maven-source-plugin-2.3-source-release.zip
  sha1: 351db6ba2fec1e27bf60ed0a5e7683ca3ab925c0

Staging site:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-source-plugin-LATEST/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

[ ] +1
[ ] +0
[ ] -1

Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Source Plugin version 2.3

2014-07-10 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1

Regards,

Hervé

Le mardi 8 juillet 2014 22:09:19 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 We solved 5 issues:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11147version=188
 48
 
 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MSOURCES%20AND%20status
 %20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC
 
 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1040
 
 http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1040/org/apache/mave
 n/plugins/maven-source-plugin/2.3/maven-source-plugin-2.3-source-release.zip
 
 Source release checksum(s):
 maven-source-plugin-2.3-source-release.zip
   sha1: 351db6ba2fec1e27bf60ed0a5e7683ca3ab925c0
 
 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins-archives/maven-source-plugin-LATEST/
 
 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
 Vote open for 72 hours.
 
 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1
 
 Kind regards
 Karl-Heinz Marbaise
 
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Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Scholte

Hi

during the hangout we discussed about plugins depending on configuration  
of another plugin, or in other words: sharing configuration.


For instance:
The values for
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-compiler-plugin/compile-mojo.html#source  
and

http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-compiler-plugin/compile-mojo.html#target

must be the same for
http://mojo.codehaus.org/aspectj-maven-plugin/compile-mojo.html#source and
http://mojo.codehaus.org/aspectj-maven-plugin/compile-mojo.html#target

http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-pmd-plugin/pmd-mojo.html#targetJdk

and somehow with the  
http://mojo.codehaus.org/animal-sniffer-maven-plugin/check-mojo.html,  
although
it's probably hard to map this to the signatures  
http://mojo.codehaus.org/signatures/


and there are probably more

The easiest way to keep these parameters in sync is by introducing a  
property and to use that per plugin.
However, by using a property is has become an exposed variable. Something  
which can be set from commandline and that's not always what you want.
Ideally a user should configure this only once either in a plugin or with  
a preserved pom-element.
As said by Jason, plugins shouldn't be aware of each other. Also if the  
m-compiler-p has multiple execution blocks, it's quite impossible to solve  
this.
So extending the pom model for these kind of parameters makes sense as  
long as it stays language independent.


thanks,
Robert

Op Mon, 07 Jul 2014 15:43:06 +0200 schreef Jason van Zyl ja...@takari.io:


Here's the link for this week:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/c0kc3ecm0sndjj8evs7i1ijnk0g

I'll have a follow up on the POM Evolved proposal and I'd like to talk  
about how to test all our plugins in preparation against the latest  
version of Maven so we can start seeing all the deprecation in core. As  
per usual the floor is open to other topics.


Thanks,

Jason

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[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Site Plugin version 3.4 (take 2)

2014-07-10 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Hi,

The vote has passed with the following result:

+1 (binding): Kristian Rosenvold, Robert Scholte, Hervé Boutemy
+1 (non binding): Michael Osipov

I will promote the artifacts to the central repo.


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Re: Hangout summary?

2014-07-10 Thread Manfred Moser
PST 

Igor Fedorenko wrote on 08.07.2014 23:21:

 I will be in GMT+4 timezone until the end of the summer, then go back to
 my normal GMT-4.
 
 --
 Regards,
 Igor
 
 
 On 2014-07-04, 1:33, Robert Scholte wrote:
 Hi,

 Just to give Olivier a chance to join, let's collect the local times of
 the current joiners and try to find a timeslot when it's not midnight:

 If I'm correct, following have joined at least 2 times or are Maven PMC
 22:00-23:00 (CEST) Robert Scholte, Hervé Boutemy, Karl-Heinz Marbaise,
 Mark Struberg
 21:00-22:00 (IST) Stephen Connolly

 unknown, please complete
 Jason van Zyl
 Igor Fedorenko
 Manfred Moser
 Mark Derricutt
 Emily Blades

 thanks,
 Robert


 Op Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:48:13 +0200 schreef Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org:

 Hi
 Hangout time is a pain for me and I probably don't have time to
 participate.
 But I'm interested to read a summary ( mail or wiki page ) on what
 happend.

 Is there any?

 Cheers
 --
 Olivier

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Feature Request - Option to log projects as groupId:artifactId instead of just artifactId

2014-07-10 Thread Alexander Pruss
Hello Maven developers,

I'd like to discuss a potential new feature. I've been working on an internal 
build tool for my company and have stumbled on the following usecase. I need to 
execute two maven commands of the following form, with different goals and 
projects:

mvn goals -pl projects -am

After this is done, I want to execute a different set of goals on the 
intersection of projects that were built by the two commands. I want to do this 
by parsing the Reactor Build Order that's output by the two commands, finding 
the common projects, and calling a maven command on them with the -pl tag. 
Unfortunately this doesn't work, since -pl requires input of the form 
groupId:artifactId.

I would therefore like to add an option to maven to change what information is 
output in the Reactor Build Order. I've checked out a copy of the Maven source 
code to see how this could be done, and found the changes to be relatively 
simple - my new local installation of Maven now has a functioning -logGroupId 
option. The only caveat is that to see the option in the ExecutionEventLogger, 
I needed to expand the MavenExecutionRequest interface to contain a getter and 
setter, isLogGroupID and setLogGroupID. As I'm not very familiar with 
Maven's source code, I'm a bit paranoid about changing interfaces.

Would there be interest in such a feature, or is the cost of an API change too 
high? If the feature is desired, I'd be happy to merge my local changes.

Sincerely,
Alexander Pruss

P.S. My apologies if this is the incorrect way to discuss a potential new 
feature. As I'm not a Maven developer, I don't believe I have access to Maven's 
Core JIRA.


RE: Hangout summary?

2014-07-10 Thread Martin Gainty
anytime before 11pm CEST would work best for me

Manfred PST is California.. who is from California?

*gruss*
Martin 
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 Subject: Re: Hangout summary?
 From: manf...@mosabuam.com
 To: dev@maven.apache.org
 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:45:36 +0200
 
 PST 
 
 Igor Fedorenko wrote on 08.07.2014 23:21:
 
  I will be in GMT+4 timezone until the end of the summer, then go back to
  my normal GMT-4.
  
  --
  Regards,
  Igor
  
  
  On 2014-07-04, 1:33, Robert Scholte wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just to give Olivier a chance to join, let's collect the local times of
  the current joiners and try to find a timeslot when it's not midnight:
 
  If I'm correct, following have joined at least 2 times or are Maven PMC
  22:00-23:00 (CEST) Robert Scholte, Hervé Boutemy, Karl-Heinz Marbaise,
  Mark Struberg
  21:00-22:00 (IST) Stephen Connolly
 
  unknown, please complete
  Jason van Zyl
  Igor Fedorenko
  Manfred Moser
  Mark Derricutt
  Emily Blades
 
  thanks,
  Robert
 
 
  Op Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:48:13 +0200 schreef Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org:
 
  Hi
  Hangout time is a pain for me and I probably don't have time to
  participate.
  But I'm interested to read a summary ( mail or wiki page ) on what
  happend.
 
  Is there any?
 
  Cheers
  --
  Olivier
 
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Re: Hangout summary?

2014-07-10 Thread Manfred Moser
I am from Austria... but I live in Victoria, BC, Canada... just up north from 
California ;-) 

Martin Gainty wrote on 10.07.2014 16:26:

 anytime before 11pm CEST would work best for me
 
 Manfred PST is California.. who is from California?
 
 *gruss*
 Martin 
 __
 
 
 Subject: Re: Hangout summary?
 From: manf...@mosabuam.com
 To: dev@maven.apache.org
 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:45:36 +0200
 
 PST 
 
 Igor Fedorenko wrote on 08.07.2014 23:21:
 
  I will be in GMT+4 timezone until the end of the summer, then go back to
  my normal GMT-4.
  
  --
  Regards,
  Igor
  
  
  On 2014-07-04, 1:33, Robert Scholte wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just to give Olivier a chance to join, let's collect the local times of
  the current joiners and try to find a timeslot when it's not midnight:
 
  If I'm correct, following have joined at least 2 times or are Maven PMC
  22:00-23:00 (CEST) Robert Scholte, Hervé Boutemy, Karl-Heinz Marbaise,
  Mark Struberg
  21:00-22:00 (IST) Stephen Connolly
 
  unknown, please complete
  Jason van Zyl
  Igor Fedorenko
  Manfred Moser
  Mark Derricutt
  Emily Blades
 
  thanks,
  Robert
 
 
  Op Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:48:13 +0200 schreef Olivier Lamy 
  ol...@apache.org:
 
  Hi
  Hangout time is a pain for me and I probably don't have time to
  participate.
  But I'm interested to read a summary ( mail or wiki page ) on what
  happend.
 
  Is there any?
 
  Cheers
  --
  Olivier
 
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Re: Maven core contributors validator their changes against the integration tests

2014-07-10 Thread Paolo Compieta
For those who work on Win7, a pretty equivalent batch script:
https://gist.github.com/pcompieta/0b202e9ce57e490c84c4

Unfortunately, i found no pull request at the moment to test it as a whole
(#22 is open but already committed to master), but i tried all pieces
separately and it should work as expected - feedbacks are welcome.

Hope it helps
Paolo Compieta



On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@takari.io wrote:

 Hi,

 There have been a lot of great patches for Maven core recently which is a
 pleasant surprise. Unfortunately it's not readily apparent to contributors
 what is required to accept a patch into core. Not only must the unit tests
 pass, but the integration tests must pass as well. Our integration tests
 catch most things and we're in a state where much of what should be tested
 in the unit tests are only captured in the integration tests. This is not a
 horrible thing in and of itself but it makes it fairly time consuming to
 test for non-core developers. I don't think most people even know we have
 an integration test suite or where they are.

 While not perfect, until we have automation to validate changes, I created
 a shell script to help those making changes to core more easily see if
 their changes have broken anything:

 https://gist.github.com/jvanzyl/16da25976f8ad27293fa

 If you have made a pull request, this script will apply your PR as a patch
 to master, build Maven and then use the just-built Maven to run the
 integration tests. If this script succeeds it becomes an order of magnitude
 easier to review the change knowing nothing is broken. This is not to say
 your patch will be immediately accepted if everything passes but it helps
 contributors to know nothing is broken which makes looking at a patch far
 more appealing to the core developers.

 Thanks,

 Jason

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