Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
Mostly reads good to me, only minor niggle to me is:

Then once the vote passed, svn move to release

which I think might be grammatically better:

“Once the vote has passed, svn move to the release tree ”

+1.5 non-binding :)




From: Hervé BOUTEMY  
Reply: Maven Developers List  
Date: 27 March 2021 at 2:19:48 PM
To: Maven Developers List  
Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

first pass of documentation improvement done in
github.com/apache/maven-site/commit/ec73b445adc7012e1384cf1b89af3f0a6f5eee17
please all review and see if anything you read may be mis-interpreted when
reading fast


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
first pass of documentation improvement done  in
https://github.com/apache/maven-site/commit/ec73b445adc7012e1384cf1b89af3f0a6f5eee17

please all review and see if anything you read may be mis-interpreted when 
reading fast

I don't know if providing a script to create a staging tree (with binaries + 
source, which is another topic that in the past was failed at copy/pasting) 
would help
or simply a template svn subtree to copy to init a staging...
we need something simple, that is obvious to work with (and not a new tedious 
additional tool)

Regards,

Hervé

Le vendredi 26 mars 2021, 10:44:41 CET Robert Scholte a écrit :
> Looks like I misinterpreted the instructions of maven-core-release[1]
> Will rewrite it to prevent this the next time.
> 
> sorry about that,
> Robert
> 
> [1] https://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html
> 
> On 26-3-2021 09:45:59, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> Fixed this has been removed from archive area
> 
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 5:29 pm, Maxim Solodovnik
> 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 14:24, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > > And that's expected as archive.apache.org keeps all releases that are
> > 
> > not
> > 
> > > current, i.e. those that have been removed from dist.apache.org.
> > 
> > Actually release is added to the archive as soon as the release is
> > uploaded (not removed :)
> > 
> > > The release process should really be fixed and the commit to
> > 
> > dist.apache.org
> > 
> > > should really happen after the vote.
> > > I suggest sending an email to infra to see if the binaries can be
> > > removed
> > > from archive.apache.org.
> > > 
> > > In any case, I'm -0 on this release. I'm also concerned about the leap
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > > the release numbering. You need to balance how many people will wonder
> > 
> > why
> > 
> > > 3.7.0 can not be found vs the number of people who were expecting a
> > 
> > feature
> > 
> > > in 3.7.0 (which they would expect to be in 3.8.0 anyway). A failed
> > 
> > attempt
> > 
> > > should not lead to a missing release number either, as the failure stays
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > > the dev community, so I don't think the larger user audience cares about
> > > those...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 08:17, Maxim Solodovnik a
> > > 
> > > écrit :
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Moving might not do what is expected
> > > > the binaries are already in
> > > > http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> > > > > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored
> > 
> > in all
> > 
> > > > > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> > > > > 
> > > > > The procedure
> > > > > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html
> > 
> > says:
> > > > > "
> > > > > 
> > > > > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > actual release.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> > > > 
> > > > create
> > > > 
> > > > > the necessary directory tree.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "
> > > > > 
> > > > > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they
> > 
> > shouldn;t
> > 
> > > > be
> > > > 
> > > > > in the official Apache release download area
> > > > > 
> > > > > svn mv
> > 
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > 
> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Committing transaction...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Committed revision 46741.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-mav
> > en–3.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > <
> > 
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/bina
> > ries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > > > <
> > 
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/bina
> > ries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > > > <
> > 
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/bina
> > ries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> > > > 
> > > > staging/unreleased
> > > > 
> > > > > > version.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > *ponders*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Gary Gregory <
> > 
> > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > > > > > Reply: Maven Developers List <
> > > > 
> > > > dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > > 
> > > > > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > > > > To: Maven Developers List <
> > 
> > dev@maven.apache.org
> > 
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken
> > 
> > when
> > 
> > 

[CANCELLED] [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Robert Scholte
Based on the finding by Maarten I'll drop the release.
We'll work on a new one.

thanks,
Robert

On 22-3-2021 20:40:41, Robert Scholte  wrote:
Hi,

For the details about this release, please read 
https://maven.apache.org/docs/3.8.0/release-notes.html
Also please provide feedback on the release notes. (as you know, these are 
published separately from the release, so it doesn't have to block the release 
itself)

We solved 5 issues:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12316922=12350003=Text

There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%2012316922%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20ORDER%20BY%20key%20DESC%2C%20priority%20DESC

Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1633/

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven-3.8.0-bin.zip
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/source/apache-maven-3.8.0-src.zip


Source release checksum(s):
apache-maven-3.8.0-bin.zip sha512: 
b56da9a0efa45e084e4882b795787fc7b61970d19835635b2db099b91a9854f14e3776a01d569e3f7af9db946a05af91abbfad41cdc5ac09e90df25077dec01e
apache-maven-3.8.0-src.zip sha512: 
51a1570894e8fb1ef52cb19ce472866745ccae2720e45304edd3cabc212cdf105937c76502558fe87995aea81c41402d7f581cc8e9393af234b64696e9a45893


Staging site:
https://maven.apache.org/ref/3-LATEST/

Guide to testing staged releases:
https://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for at least 72 hours.

[ ] +1
[ ] +0
[ ] -1


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Robert Scholte
Looks like I misinterpreted the instructions of maven-core-release[1]
Will rewrite it to prevent this the next time.

sorry about that,
Robert

[1] https://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html

On 26-3-2021 09:45:59, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
Fixed this has been removed from archive area

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 5:29 pm, Maxim Solodovnik
wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 14:24, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >
> > And that's expected as archive.apache.org keeps all releases that are
> not
> > current, i.e. those that have been removed from dist.apache.org.
>
> Actually release is added to the archive as soon as the release is
> uploaded (not removed :)
>
> > The release process should really be fixed and the commit to
> dist.apache.org
> > should really happen after the vote.
> > I suggest sending an email to infra to see if the binaries can be removed
> > from archive.apache.org.
> >
> > In any case, I'm -0 on this release. I'm also concerned about the leap
> in
> > the release numbering. You need to balance how many people will wonder
> why
> > 3.7.0 can not be found vs the number of people who were expecting a
> feature
> > in 3.7.0 (which they would expect to be in 3.8.0 anyway). A failed
> attempt
> > should not lead to a missing release number either, as the failure stays
> in
> > the dev community, so I don't think the larger user audience cares about
> > those...
> >
> >
> >
> > Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 08:17, Maxim Solodovnik a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Moving might not do what is expected
> > > the binaries are already in
> > > http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
> > >
> > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored
> in all
> > > > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> > > >
> > > > The procedure
> > > > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html
> says:
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before
> the
> > > > actual release.
> > > >
> > > > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> > > create
> > > > the necessary directory tree.
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they
> shouldn;t
> > > be
> > > > in the official Apache release download area
> > > >
> > > > svn mv
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> > > >
> > > > Committing transaction...
> > > >
> > > > Committed revision 46741.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
>
> > > <
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> >
> > > > > <
> > >
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > >
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > >
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> > > staging/unreleased
> > > > > version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > > > >
> > > > > *ponders*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Gary Gregory <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > Reply: Maven Developers List <
> > > dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > > > To: Maven Developers List <
> dev@maven.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > > > >
> > > > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken
> when
> > > > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when
> in
> > > fact
> > > > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Olivier Lamy
> > > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Maxim
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > 
> > Guillaume Nodet
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
>
> --
Olivier Lamy
http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Olivier Lamy
Fixed this has been removed from archive area

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 5:29 pm, Maxim Solodovnik 
wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 14:24, Guillaume Nodet  wrote:
> >
> > And that's expected as archive.apache.org keeps all releases that are
> not
> > current, i.e. those that have been removed from dist.apache.org.
>
> Actually release is added to the archive as soon as the release is
> uploaded (not removed :)
>
> > The release process should really be fixed and the commit to
> dist.apache.org
> > should really happen after the vote.
> > I suggest sending an email to infra to see if the binaries can be removed
> > from archive.apache.org.
> >
> > In any case, I'm -0 on this release.  I'm also concerned about the leap
> in
> > the release numbering.  You need to balance how many people will wonder
> why
> > 3.7.0 can not be found vs the number of people who were expecting a
> feature
> > in 3.7.0 (which they would expect to be in 3.8.0 anyway).  A failed
> attempt
> > should not lead to a missing release number either, as the failure stays
> in
> > the dev community, so I don't think the larger user audience cares about
> > those...
> >
> >
> >
> > Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 08:17, Maxim Solodovnik  a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Moving might not do what is expected
> > > the binaries are already in
> > > http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
> > >
> > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored
> in all
> > > > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> > > >
> > > > The procedure
> > > > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html
> says:
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before
> the
> > > > actual release.
> > > >
> > > > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> > > create
> > > > the necessary directory tree.
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they
> shouldn;t
> > > be
> > > > in the official Apache release download area
> > > >
> > > > svn mv
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> > > >
> > > > Committing transaction...
> > > >
> > > > Committed revision 46741.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
> 
> > > <
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> >
> > > > > <
> > >
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > >
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > >
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> > > staging/unreleased
> > > > > version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > > > >
> > > > > *ponders*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Gary Gregory  <
> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > Reply: Maven Developers List  <
> > > dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > > > To: Maven Developers List  <
> dev@maven.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > > > >
> > > > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken
> when
> > > > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when
> in
> > > fact
> > > > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Olivier Lamy
> > > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Maxim
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > 
> > Guillaume Nodet
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
>
> --
Olivier Lamy
http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 14:24, Guillaume Nodet  wrote:
>
> And that's expected as archive.apache.org keeps all releases that are not
> current, i.e. those that have been removed from dist.apache.org.

Actually release is added to the archive as soon as the release is
uploaded (not removed :)

> The release process should really be fixed and the commit to dist.apache.org
> should really happen after the vote.
> I suggest sending an email to infra to see if the binaries can be removed
> from archive.apache.org.
>
> In any case, I'm -0 on this release.  I'm also concerned about the leap in
> the release numbering.  You need to balance how many people will wonder why
> 3.7.0 can not be found vs the number of people who were expecting a feature
> in 3.7.0 (which they would expect to be in 3.8.0 anyway).  A failed attempt
> should not lead to a missing release number either, as the failure stays in
> the dev community, so I don't think the larger user audience cares about
> those...
>
>
>
> Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 08:17, Maxim Solodovnik  a
> écrit :
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Moving might not do what is expected
> > the binaries are already in
> > http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored in all
> > > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> > >
> > > The procedure
> > > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html says:
> > > "
> > >
> > > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before the
> > > actual release.
> > >
> > > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> > create
> > > the necessary directory tree.
> > >
> > > "
> > >
> > > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they shouldn;t
> > be
> > > in the official Apache release download area
> > >
> > > svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> > >
> > > Committing transaction...
> > >
> > > Committed revision 46741.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
> > 
> > > > <
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > >
> > > > <
> > > >
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> > staging/unreleased
> > > > version.
> > > >
> > > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > > >
> > > > *ponders*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Gary Gregory  
> > > > Reply: Maven Developers List  <
> > dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > > To: Maven Developers List   > >
> > > > Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > > >
> > > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken when
> > > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when in
> > fact
> > > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Olivier Lamy
> > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Maxim
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
> >
> >
>
> --
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Guillaume Nodet
And that's expected as archive.apache.org keeps all releases that are not
current, i.e. those that have been removed from dist.apache.org.
The release process should really be fixed and the commit to dist.apache.org
should really happen after the vote.
I suggest sending an email to infra to see if the binaries can be removed
from archive.apache.org.

In any case, I'm -0 on this release.  I'm also concerned about the leap in
the release numbering.  You need to balance how many people will wonder why
3.7.0 can not be found vs the number of people who were expecting a feature
in 3.7.0 (which they would expect to be in 3.8.0 anyway).  A failed attempt
should not lead to a missing release number either, as the failure stays in
the dev community, so I don't think the larger user audience cares about
those...



Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 08:17, Maxim Solodovnik  a
écrit :

> Hello,
>
> Moving might not do what is expected
> the binaries are already in
> http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >
> > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored in all
> > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> >
> > The procedure
> > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html says:
> > "
> >
> > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before the
> > actual release.
> >
> > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> create
> > the necessary directory tree.
> >
> > "
> >
> > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they shouldn;t
> be
> > in the official Apache release download area
> >
> > svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> >
> > Committing transaction...
> >
> > Committed revision 46741.
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt  wrote:
> >
> > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
> 
> > > <
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> >
> > > <
> > >
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > >
> > >
> > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> staging/unreleased
> > > version.
> > >
> > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > >
> > > *ponders*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gary Gregory  
> > > Reply: Maven Developers List  <
> dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > To: Maven Developers List   >
> > > Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > >
> > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken when
> > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when in
> fact
> > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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>
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Olivier Lamy
ouchhh I will check with infra. if they can delete this :(


On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 17:17, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Moving might not do what is expected
> the binaries are already in
> http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >
> > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored in all
> > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> >
> > The procedure
> > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html says:
> > "
> >
> > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before the
> > actual release.
> >
> > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> create
> > the necessary directory tree.
> >
> > "
> >
> > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they shouldn;t
> be
> > in the official Apache release download area
> >
> > svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> >
> > Committing transaction...
> >
> > Committed revision 46741.
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt  wrote:
> >
> > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
> 
> > > <
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> >
> > > <
> > >
> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > >
> > >
> > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> staging/unreleased
> > > version.
> > >
> > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > >
> > > *ponders*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gary Gregory  
> > > Reply: Maven Developers List  <
> dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > To: Maven Developers List   >
> > > Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > >
> > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken when
> > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when in
> fact
> > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Olivier Lamy
> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Enrico Olivelli
The problem is that Robert uploaded the binaries to the "dist/release" directory

this is to be done only after the vote completes

IIRC we have dist/dev for staging releasing

Enrico

Il giorno ven 26 mar 2021 alle ore 08:17 Maxim Solodovnik
 ha scritto:
>
> Hello,
>
> Moving might not do what is expected
> the binaries are already in 
> http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
> >
> > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored in all
> > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> >
> > The procedure
> > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html says:
> > "
> >
> > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before the
> > actual release.
> >
> > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then create
> > the necessary directory tree.
> >
> > "
> >
> > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they shouldn;t be
> > in the official Apache release download area
> >
> > svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> >
> > Committing transaction...
> >
> > Committed revision 46741.
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt  wrote:
> >
> > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > >
> > >
> > > dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
> > > 
> > > <
> > > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > > >
> > >
> > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a staging/unreleased
> > > version.
> > >
> > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > >
> > > *ponders*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gary Gregory  
> > > Reply: Maven Developers List  
> > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > To: Maven Developers List  
> > > Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > >
> > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken when
> > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when in fact
> > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Olivier Lamy
> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0

2021-03-26 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
Hello,

Moving might not do what is expected
the binaries are already in http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy  wrote:
>
> Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored in all
> Apache mirrors as a real release...
>
> The procedure
> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html says:
> "
>
> For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before the
> actual release.
>
> Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then create
> the necessary directory tree.
>
> "
>
> @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they shouldn;t be
> in the official Apache release download area
>
> svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
>
> Committing transaction...
>
> Committed revision 46741.
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt  wrote:
>
> > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> >
> >
> > dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven–3.8.0-bin.zip
> > 
> > <
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/binaries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip
> > >
> >
> > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a staging/unreleased
> > version.
> >
> > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> >
> > *ponders*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gary Gregory  
> > Reply: Maven Developers List  
> > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > To: Maven Developers List  
> > Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> >
> > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken when
> > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when in fact
> > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> >
>
>
> --
> Olivier Lamy
> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy



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