Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-21 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in Brussels
 i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:

 Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1 (prerequisites)
 and Java 1.5

 The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2] page.

 After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have minimum
 Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in code etc.)

I have documented the steps required to update a plugin/shared
component to Java 6 here
http://maven.apache.org/developers/java6.html

 To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be bumped
 to 3.0independant from their current version.

I think we also need a versioning guide for plugins/components to
cover stuff like this. That page could also cover Semver, see separate
thread for that.

 This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs bug fix
 releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK 5/JDK6
 etc.

 These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)

 Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind of
 special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which already
 have the Maven 3 requirement.


 [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
 [2]
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisites.html


 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Anders Hammar
 Ouch that's an old one :-)

 Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
 motivation/time to close 431


Yes, I hardly even remember this one. The code seems to be fixed except the
unit test. I'd say we should go for the easiest way so that we could close
this ticket. Then we could create a new one for any remaining work.

/Anders



 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:

  I didn't work on this one for a long time
 
  Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and close
  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
   So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
   correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
   release?
  
   On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
  wrote:
Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
Hi,
   
after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in
Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:
   
Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
(prerequisites) and Java 1.5
   
The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool
 [2]
   
page.
   
After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups
 in
code etc.)
   
To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be
bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
   
This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs
  bug
fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion
 JDK
5/JDK6 etc.
   
These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)
   
Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some
 kind
  of
special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which
already have the Maven 3 requirement.
   
more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven
 3:
maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version 
  3.0:
maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
   
And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes
 its
requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version that
requires Maven 2
Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin
   
Regards,
   
Hervé
   
[1]
 http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
[2]
   
 
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
es. html
   
   
Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
   
   
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Ouch that's an old one :-)

Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
motivation/time to close 431

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:

 I didn't work on this one for a long time

 Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and close
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431

 Regards,

 Hervé

 Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
  So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
  correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
  release?
 
  On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
   Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
   Hi,
  
   after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in
   Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:
  
   Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
   (prerequisites) and Java 1.5
  
   The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2]
  
   page.
  
   After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
   minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in
   code etc.)
  
   To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be
   bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
  
   This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs
 bug
   fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK
   5/JDK6 etc.
  
   These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)
  
   Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind
 of
   special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which
   already have the Maven 3 requirement.
  
   more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
   1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven 3:
   maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
   maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version 
 3.0:
   maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
  
   And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes its
   requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version that
   requires Maven 2
   Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin
  
   Regards,
  
   Hervé
  
   [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
   [2]
  
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
   es. html
  
  
   Kind regards
   Karl Heinz Marbaise
  
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Benson Margulies
I'll poke around.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote:
 ARCHETYPE-431 fixed.
 However, when building I see a bunch of Maven Build Failure in the output
 from tests. Don't know if that's expected, but it looks weird. The tests
 pass though, but that could be wrong. Didn't have time to look into that.
 Also, there are some warnings in the build that could be cleaned up.

 /Anders

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote:

 I'll have a look.

 /Anders (mobile)
 Den 4 feb 2015 14:03 skrev Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com:

 Gents, are you willing to do it and I'll just be RM?


 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  +1
 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net
 wrote:
 
   Ouch that's an old one :-)
  
   Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
   motivation/time to close 431
 
 
  Yes, I hardly even remember this one. The code seems to be fixed
 except the
  unit test. I'd say we should go for the easiest way so that we could
 close
  this ticket. Then we could create a new one for any remaining work.
 
  /Anders
 
 
  
   On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 
   wrote:
  
I didn't work on this one for a long time
   
Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and
 close
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431
   
Regards,
   
Hervé
   
Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
 So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
 correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
 release?

 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
 herve.bout...@free.fr
  
wrote:
  Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and
 Robert
  in
  Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share
 here:
 
  Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
  (prerequisites) and Java 1.5
 
  The current state of this approach can be watched on the
 dist-tool
   [2]
 
  page.
 
  After that we can start making releases of the plugins which
 have
  minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many
 cleanups
   in
  code etc.)
 
  To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions
 should
  be
  bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
 
  This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real
  bugs
bug
  fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without
 confusion
   JDK
  5/JDK6 etc.
 
  These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah
 ;-)
 
  Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin
 (some
   kind
of
  special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
  which
  already have the Maven 3 requirement.
 
  more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
  1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require
 Maven
   3:
  maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
  maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with
 version
  
3.0:
  maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
 
  And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that
 changes
   its
  requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version
  that
  requires Maven 2
  Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1]
   http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
  [2]
 
   
  
 
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
  es. html
 
 
  Kind regards
  Karl Heinz Marbaise
 
 
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Anders Hammar
ARCHETYPE-431 fixed.
However, when building I see a bunch of Maven Build Failure in the output
from tests. Don't know if that's expected, but it looks weird. The tests
pass though, but that could be wrong. Didn't have time to look into that.
Also, there are some warnings in the build that could be cleaned up.

/Anders

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote:

 I'll have a look.

 /Anders (mobile)
 Den 4 feb 2015 14:03 skrev Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com:

 Gents, are you willing to do it and I'll just be RM?


 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  +1
 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net
 wrote:
 
   Ouch that's an old one :-)
  
   Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
   motivation/time to close 431
 
 
  Yes, I hardly even remember this one. The code seems to be fixed
 except the
  unit test. I'd say we should go for the easiest way so that we could
 close
  this ticket. Then we could create a new one for any remaining work.
 
  /Anders
 
 
  
   On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 
   wrote:
  
I didn't work on this one for a long time
   
Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and
 close
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431
   
Regards,
   
Hervé
   
Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
 So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
 correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
 release?

 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
 herve.bout...@free.fr
  
wrote:
  Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and
 Robert
  in
  Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share
 here:
 
  Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
  (prerequisites) and Java 1.5
 
  The current state of this approach can be watched on the
 dist-tool
   [2]
 
  page.
 
  After that we can start making releases of the plugins which
 have
  minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many
 cleanups
   in
  code etc.)
 
  To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions
 should
  be
  bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
 
  This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real
  bugs
bug
  fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without
 confusion
   JDK
  5/JDK6 etc.
 
  These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah
 ;-)
 
  Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin
 (some
   kind
of
  special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
  which
  already have the Maven 3 requirement.
 
  more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
  1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require
 Maven
   3:
  maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
  maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with
 version
  
3.0:
  maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
 
  And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that
 changes
   its
  requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version
  that
  requires Maven 2
  Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1]
   http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
  [2]
 
   
  
 
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
  es. html
 
 
  Kind regards
  Karl Heinz Marbaise
 
 
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Benson Margulies
Gents, are you willing to do it and I'll just be RM?


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote:

  Ouch that's an old one :-)
 
  Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
  motivation/time to close 431


 Yes, I hardly even remember this one. The code seems to be fixed except the
 unit test. I'd say we should go for the easiest way so that we could close
 this ticket. Then we could create a new one for any remaining work.

 /Anders


 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
  wrote:
 
   I didn't work on this one for a long time
  
   Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and close
   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431
  
   Regards,
  
   Hervé
  
   Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
release?
   
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 
   wrote:
 Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
 Hi,

 after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert
 in
 Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:

 Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
 (prerequisites) and Java 1.5

 The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool
  [2]

 page.

 After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
 minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups
  in
 code etc.)

 To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should
 be
 bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.

 This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real
 bugs
   bug
 fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion
  JDK
 5/JDK6 etc.

 These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)

 Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some
  kind
   of
 special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
 which
 already have the Maven 3 requirement.

 more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
 1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven
  3:
 maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
 maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version
 
   3.0:
 maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin

 And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes
  its
 requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version
 that
 requires Maven 2
 Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin

 Regards,

 Hervé

 [1]
  http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
 [2]

  
 
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
 es. html


 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise


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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Anders Hammar
I'll have a look.

/Anders (mobile)
Den 4 feb 2015 14:03 skrev Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com:

 Gents, are you willing to do it and I'll just be RM?


 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  +1
 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net
 wrote:
 
   Ouch that's an old one :-)
  
   Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
   motivation/time to close 431
 
 
  Yes, I hardly even remember this one. The code seems to be fixed except
 the
  unit test. I'd say we should go for the easiest way so that we could
 close
  this ticket. Then we could create a new one for any remaining work.
 
  /Anders
 
 
  
   On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
   wrote:
  
I didn't work on this one for a long time
   
Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and
 close
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431
   
Regards,
   
Hervé
   
Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
 So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
 correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
 release?

 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY 
 herve.bout...@free.fr
  
wrote:
  Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and
 Robert
  in
  Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share
 here:
 
  Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
  (prerequisites) and Java 1.5
 
  The current state of this approach can be watched on the
 dist-tool
   [2]
 
  page.
 
  After that we can start making releases of the plugins which
 have
  minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many
 cleanups
   in
  code etc.)
 
  To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions
 should
  be
  bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
 
  This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real
  bugs
bug
  fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without
 confusion
   JDK
  5/JDK6 etc.
 
  These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah
 ;-)
 
  Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin
 (some
   kind
of
  special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
  which
  already have the Maven 3 requirement.
 
  more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
  1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require
 Maven
   3:
  maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
  maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with
 version
  
3.0:
  maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
 
  And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that
 changes
   its
  requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version
  that
  requires Maven 2
  Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervé
 
  [1]
   http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
  [2]
 
   
  
 
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-04 Thread Arnaud Héritier
+1

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote:

  Ouch that's an old one :-)
 
  Yes I was interested to have a 2.3 release but we failed to find the
  motivation/time to close 431


 Yes, I hardly even remember this one. The code seems to be fixed except the
 unit test. I'd say we should go for the easiest way so that we could close
 this ticket. Then we could create a new one for any remaining work.

 /Anders


 
  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
  wrote:
 
   I didn't work on this one for a long time
  
   Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and close
   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431
  
   Regards,
  
   Hervé
  
   Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
release?
   
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 
   wrote:
 Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
 Hi,

 after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert
 in
 Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:

 Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
 (prerequisites) and Java 1.5

 The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool
  [2]

 page.

 After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
 minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups
  in
 code etc.)

 To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should
 be
 bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.

 This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real
 bugs
   bug
 fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion
  JDK
 5/JDK6 etc.

 These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)

 Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some
  kind
   of
 special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
 which
 already have the Maven 3 requirement.

 more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
 1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven
  3:
 maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
 maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version
 
   3.0:
 maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin

 And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes
  its
 requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version
 that
 requires Maven 2
 Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin

 Regards,

 Hervé

 [1]
  http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
 [2]

  
 
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
 es. html


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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-03 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in
 Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:
 
 Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
 (prerequisites) and Java 1.5
 
 The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2]  
page.
 
 After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
 minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in
 code etc.)
 
 To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be
 bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
 
 This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs bug
 fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK
 5/JDK6 etc.
 
 These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)
 
 Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind of
 special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which
 already have the Maven 3 requirement.
more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven 3: maven-
site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin, maven-compiler-plugin
2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version  3.0: maven-scm-publish-plugin 
and maven-shade-plugin

And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes its 
requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version that requires 
Maven 2
Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin

Regards,

Hervé

 
 
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 [2]
 https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisites.
 html
 
 
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-03 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
I didn't work on this one for a long time

Anders and Arnaud seem to have problems to decide how to fix and close 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-431

Regards,

Hervé

Le mardi 3 février 2015 21:50:00 Benson Margulies a écrit :
 So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
 correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
 release?
 
 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
  Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
  Hi,
  
  after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in
  Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:
  
  Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
  (prerequisites) and Java 1.5
  
  The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2]
  
  page.
  
  After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
  minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in
  code etc.)
  
  To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be
  bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.
  
  This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs bug
  fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK
  5/JDK6 etc.
  
  These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)
  
  Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind of
  special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which
  already have the Maven 3 requirement.
  
  more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
  1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven 3:
  maven- site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin,
  maven-compiler-plugin 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version  3.0:
  maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin
  
  And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes its
  requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version that
  requires Maven 2
  Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin
  
  Regards,
  
  Hervé
  
  [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
  [2]
  https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-tool-prerequisit
  es. html
  
  
  Kind regards
  Karl Heinz Marbaise
  
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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-03 Thread Benson Margulies
So, I've committed changes to the archetype system that I believe
correspond to the 2.2.1 level. What else wants to happen before a
release?

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:
 Le lundi 2 février 2015 12:42:02 Karl Heinz Marbaise a écrit :
 Hi,

 after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in
 Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:

 Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
 (prerequisites) and Java 1.5

 The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2]
 page.

 After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have
 minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in
 code etc.)

 To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be
 bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.

 This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs bug
 fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK
 5/JDK6 etc.

 These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)

 Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind of
 special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which
 already have the Maven 3 requirement.
 more precisely, IMHO, we'll need to document 2 exceptions:
 1. plugins that are already at version 3.x but do not require Maven 3: maven-
 site-plugin, maven-plugin-plugin, maven-pmd-plugin, maven-compiler-plugin
 2. plugins that require Maven 3 with version  3.0: maven-scm-publish-plugin
 and maven-shade-plugin

 And we'll need to add a documentation in every plugin that changes its
 requirements to remember to end-users which is the last version that requires
 Maven 2
 Perhaps something to add to maven-docck-plugin

 Regards,

 Hervé



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Re: Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-02 Thread Anders Hammar
Sounds good to me. I especially like the Maven 3.0 (not 3.0.5) requirement.

/Anders

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise khmarba...@gmx.de
wrote:

 Hi,

 after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in
 Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:

 Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1
 (prerequisites) and Java 1.5

 The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2]
 page.

 After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have minimum
 Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in code etc.)

 To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be bumped
 to 3.0independant from their current version.

 This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs bug
 fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK
 5/JDK6 etc.

 These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)

 Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind of
 special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which
 already have the Maven 3 requirement.


 [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
 [2] https://builds.apache.org/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/dist-
 tool-prerequisites.html


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Roadmap Proposal Plugin Releases

2015-02-02 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

after some discussions at FOSDEM with Hervé, Kristian and Robert in 
Brussels i will summarize some ideas we would like to share here:


Make a final release of all plugins with minium Maven 2.2.1 
(prerequisites) and Java 1.5


The current state of this approach can be watched on the dist-tool [2] page.

After that we can start making releases of the plugins which have 
minimum Maven 3.0 and JDK 6 (I think this will bring many cleanups in 
code etc.)


To make this more clear for the users the plugin versions should be 
bumped to 3.0independant from their current version.


This approach gives us the possibility to make in case of real bugs bug 
fix releases of the older plugins for JDK 5 etc. without confusion JDK 
5/JDK6 etc.


These are the steps to leave Maven 2 completely behind..Yeah ;-)

Currently we have two (three) exceptions maven-site-plugin (some kind of 
special case), maven-scm-publish-plugin and maven-shade-plugin which 
already have the Maven 3 requirement.



[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40maven.apache.org/msg102539.html
[2] 
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