Re: [ASYNCWEB] What's the plan regarding it's leaving the sandbox?

2008-01-20 Thread Trustin Lee
The reason why AsyncWeb is still in the sandbox is because there's no
dedicated active committer for it.  Jeff and many others have a lot of
interest on the project, so it should get a new life soon, considering
Dave's current absence.  However, it's just too early to say that it's
ready to get out of the sandbox.

It is also needed to clarify that MINA core doesn't contain HTTP
codec.  One submodule of MINA does, and this inclusion has been agreed
when AsyncWeb is imported at the very initial discussion.  Moreover,
AsyncWeb is not the only module that depends on the HTTP codec
submodule.  AHC (AsyncHttpClient) also depends on it.  And, merging
AsyncWeb and AHC into one module was discussed before and we decided
to stay as in the current state.  The bottom line is that we are still
in the course of evolution and we can discuss about project
segmentation after some visible changes in AsyncWeb or AHC occurs.

Trustin

On Jan 21, 2008 3:15 AM, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Jeff. Actually I was going to start refactoring it tomorrow while
> checking various legal matters so we can start releasing some candidates.
> I'll keep you updated.
>
> I'd love to see a rich community start to grow around asyncweb as it did
> around MINA.  It's got a lot of potential and there are many users out there
> even as it is.  However the present direction with pushing protocols into
> MINA core is somewhat of an issue which will distract from this goal.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2008 1:07 PM, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I personally don't know what is going on but I really like AsyncWeb and
> > would love to see it come out of the sandbox.  I would be happy to also
> > help refactoring it.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > >> Do you have any idea on when we can release MINA proper 2.0 M1.  I ask
> > >> this because I would like to see at least some beta release of asyncweb
> > >> which depends on it?  Furthermore we probably need to move it out of
> > the
> > >> sandbox now that the IP has been cleared but it needs some work.  I
> > will
> > >> start cleaning it up to get it ready for some kind of beta release.
> > >>
> > >> Also are we bound to maintain the MINA API between milestone releases?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Any comment? Anyone besides Trustin know what's going on?
> > >
> > > If releases without freezing the API are not possible then we might have
> > an
> > > issue with this model.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> >
>



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Re: [ASYNCWEB] What's the plan regarding it's leaving the sandbox?

2008-01-20 Thread Alex Karasulu
Thanks Jeff. Actually I was going to start refactoring it tomorrow while
checking various legal matters so we can start releasing some candidates.
I'll keep you updated.

I'd love to see a rich community start to grow around asyncweb as it did
around MINA.  It's got a lot of potential and there are many users out there
even as it is.  However the present direction with pushing protocols into
MINA core is somewhat of an issue which will distract from this goal.

Alex

On Jan 20, 2008 1:07 PM, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I personally don't know what is going on but I really like AsyncWeb and
> would love to see it come out of the sandbox.  I would be happy to also
> help refactoring it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Alex Karasulu wrote:
> >> Do you have any idea on when we can release MINA proper 2.0 M1.  I ask
> >> this because I would like to see at least some beta release of asyncweb
> >> which depends on it?  Furthermore we probably need to move it out of
> the
> >> sandbox now that the IP has been cleared but it needs some work.  I
> will
> >> start cleaning it up to get it ready for some kind of beta release.
> >>
> >> Also are we bound to maintain the MINA API between milestone releases?
> >>
> >
> > Any comment? Anyone besides Trustin know what's going on?
> >
> > If releases without freezing the API are not possible then we might have
> an
> > issue with this model.
> >
> > Alex
> >
>


Re: [ASYNCWEB] What's the plan regarding it's leaving the sandbox?

2008-01-20 Thread Jeff Genender
I personally don't know what is going on but I really like AsyncWeb and 
would love to see it come out of the sandbox.  I would be happy to also 
help refactoring it.


Jeff

Alex Karasulu wrote:

Do you have any idea on when we can release MINA proper 2.0 M1.  I ask
this because I would like to see at least some beta release of asyncweb
which depends on it?  Furthermore we probably need to move it out of the
sandbox now that the IP has been cleared but it needs some work.  I will
start cleaning it up to get it ready for some kind of beta release.

Also are we bound to maintain the MINA API between milestone releases?



Any comment? Anyone besides Trustin know what's going on?

If releases without freezing the API are not possible then we might have an
issue with this model.

Alex



Re: [ASYNCWEB] What's the plan regarding it's leaving the sandbox?

2008-01-20 Thread Alex Karasulu
> Do you have any idea on when we can release MINA proper 2.0 M1.  I ask
> this because I would like to see at least some beta release of asyncweb
> which depends on it?  Furthermore we probably need to move it out of the
> sandbox now that the IP has been cleared but it needs some work.  I will
> start cleaning it up to get it ready for some kind of beta release.
>
> Also are we bound to maintain the MINA API between milestone releases?
>

Any comment? Anyone besides Trustin know what's going on?

If releases without freezing the API are not possible then we might have an
issue with this model.

Alex


[ASYNCWEB] What's the plan regarding it's leaving the sandbox?

2008-01-19 Thread Alex Karasulu
Sorry I should have posted this to the dev list ...

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From: Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 19, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: [ASYNCWEB] What's the plan regarding it's leaving the sandbox?
To: Trustin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hi Trustin,

Do you have any idea on when we can release MINA proper 2.0 M1.  I ask this
because I would like to see at least some beta release of asyncweb which
depends on it?  Furthermore we probably need to move it out of the sandbox
now that the IP has been cleared but it needs some work.  I will start
cleaning it up to get it ready for some kind of beta release.

Also are we bound to maintain the MINA API between milestone releases?

Alex