Planning to remove rosters from active podlings

2017-09-25 Thread John D. Ament
All,

This coming weekend (9/29) I plan to remove the roster sections from all
podling status pages.

Podling rosters are meant to be managed in Whimsy.  The roster in the
status page is redundant and end up out of sync.  In place of the roster, I
will be adding a link automatically to all podling rosters.

John


Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-08-28 Thread John D. Ament
Huge +1 to that.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The "checklist" suppose to just provide guide for readiness our
> graduation. It was NOT mandatory checklist.
>
> This should be used primarily for self check to make sure we are ready for
> graduation.
>
>
> - Henry
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling aim to graduate.  Its
>> not up to me to measure whether the podling has been successful or not,
>> but
>> instead the IPMC as a whole.  I can give you some feedback on the APMM
>> assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of this form and
>> completing this form is not a requirement for graduation.
>>
>> So please, when reviewing the below list, understand that completing this
>> is not a requirement for graduation.  Even then, podlings who think they
>> pass it may be missing things.
>>
>> CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that brought me to
>> your
>> source code.  Other projects use hacking guides.  Unless you're on gitbox,
>> the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos.
>>
>> CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of this item, from
>> my point of view.  In your case, you're pointing to "centos:latest" which
>> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3.
>>
>> CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are from committers
>> or from contributors.  If I take
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 as an example, the
>> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source code.
>>
>> LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect (the use of
>> *most*)
>>
>> RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/ but that
>> doesn't include any download links.
>> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does include download
>> links
>> to the proper release mirrors.
>>
>> RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC).
>>
>> RE30 - Again, not using mirror.
>>
>> RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute binary releases."
>>
>> RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts.
>>
>> QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports.  You may want to use
>> linters,
>> sonar, etc.
>>
>> QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security vulnerability
>> reported.  If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to confirm
>> this.
>>
>> QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around 6 months.
>>
>> CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any commentary or
>> questions from the project's committers.  Why is that?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs
>> >
>> > We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your evaluation, please
>> > guide us to graduate our project, thanks.
>> >
>> > All comments and suggestions are welcome!
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi John
>> >>
>> >> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me
>> >>
>> >> Very truly yours
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Please take a look at
>> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi John
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser and then review
>> >>>> it, Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Very truly yours
>> >>>> Gary
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi John
>> >>>>

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-08-25 Thread John D. Ament
Hello,

So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling aim to graduate.  Its
not up to me to measure whether the podling has been successful or not, but
instead the IPMC as a whole.  I can give you some feedback on the APMM
assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of this form and
completing this form is not a requirement for graduation.

So please, when reviewing the below list, understand that completing this
is not a requirement for graduation.  Even then, podlings who think they
pass it may be missing things.

CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that brought me to your
source code.  Other projects use hacking guides.  Unless you're on gitbox,
the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos.

CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of this item, from
my point of view.  In your case, you're pointing to "centos:latest" which
today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3.

CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are from committers
or from contributors.  If I take
https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 as an example, the
commit message says nothing about provenance of the source code.

LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect (the use of
*most*)

RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/ but that
doesn't include any download links.
http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does include download links
to the proper release mirrors.

RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC).

RE30 - Again, not using mirror.

RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute binary releases."

RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts.

QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports.  You may want to use linters,
sonar, etc.

QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security vulnerability
reported.  If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to confirm this.

QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around 6 months.

CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any commentary or
questions from the project's committers.  Why is that?

Regards,

John

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs
>
> We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your evaluation, please
> guide us to graduate our project, thanks.
>
> All comments and suggestions are welcome!
>
> Cheers!
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi John
>>
>> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me
>>
>> Very truly yours
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please take a look at
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John
>>>>
>>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser and then review
>>>> it, Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Very truly yours
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for pointing it out, we
>>>>> will correct this according to your guidance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Very truly yours
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored artifacts, but you
>>>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts.
>>>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old releases should
>>>>>> be archived.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I can't find anything
>>>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is.  The format is going to be
>>>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic and you'll want
>>>>>> to grab your specific version from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-08-17 Thread John D. Ament
Please take a look at
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser and then review it,
> Thanks!
>
> Very truly yours
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John
>>
>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for pointing it out, we
>> will correct this according to your guidance.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Very truly yours
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance.
>>>
>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored artifacts, but you should
>>> be linking to your mirrored artifacts.
>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old releases should be
>>> archived.
>>>
>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I can't find anything
>>> saying what the mirroring URL is.  The format is going to be
>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic and you'll want to
>>> grab your specific version from there.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the navigator in home page,
>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank you very much for the
>>>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Very truly yours
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can download all versions of the package from Apache
>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the following web page
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored Github page
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases
>>>>>
>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home page dedicated for
>>>>> downloading the latest one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Very truly yours
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking at your website.  How do I download Mnemonic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Uma
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for PPMC review, Thank
>>>>>>> you very much for the guidance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very truly yours
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma <
>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for graduation.
>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model checklist to check
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, so that will help to
>>>>>>>> assess better?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Uma
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level project .  We have a
>>>>>>>> stable
>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache community under the guidance
>>>>>>>> of our
>>>>>>>> >mentors.   Any thoughts?
>>>&

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-08-17 Thread John D. Ament
Thanks, but you're still out of compliance.

- You're linking directly to your un-mirrored artifacts, but you should be
linking to your mirrored artifacts.
- You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old releases should be
archived.

Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I can't find anything
saying what the mirroring URL is.  The format is going to be
http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic and you'll want to grab
your specific version from there.

John



On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> The Download menu item has been added to the navigator in home page,
> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank you very much for the
> suggestion.
>
> Very truly yours
> Gary
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> You can download all versions of the package from Apache
>> distribution site that is linked from the following web page
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases
>>
>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored Github page
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases
>>
>> We could add another menu item on top of home page dedicated for
>> downloading the latest one.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Very truly yours
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking at your website.  How do I download Mnemonic?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Uma
>>>>
>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for PPMC review, Thank you
>>>> very much for the guidance.
>>>>
>>>> Very truly yours
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma <
>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for graduation.
>>>>> What is the mentors call on this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model checklist to check
>>>>> where
>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, so that will help to
>>>>> assess better?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Uma
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level project .  We have a
>>>>> stable
>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache community under the guidance of
>>>>> our
>>>>> >mentors.   Any thoughts?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the construction of
>>>>> >>Mnemonic
>>>>> >> Website recently according to your feedback, this Apache server
>>>>> hosted
>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and maintained by dedicated
>>>>> community
>>>>> >> members.  we also have redirected the visitors from Github to our
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a forward link in project
>>>>> README.md
>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of this website,
>>>>> >>please
>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Very truly yours.
>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament <
>>>>> johndam...@apache.org>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > Hi patrick,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the website

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-08-16 Thread John D. Ament
I'm looking at your website.  How do I download Mnemonic?

John

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Uma
>
> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for PPMC review, Thank you
> very much for the guidance.
>
> Very truly yours
> Gary
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma <uma.ganguma...@intel.com
> > wrote:
>
>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for graduation.
>> What is the mentors call on this?
>>
>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model checklist to check where
>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, so that will help to
>> assess better?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Uma
>>
>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level project .  We have a stable
>> >release and we work well as a apache community under the guidance of our
>> >mentors.   Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear John and Patrick,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the construction of
>> >>Mnemonic
>> >> Website recently according to your feedback, this Apache server hosted
>> >> website will be kept up to date and maintained by dedicated community
>> >> members.  we also have redirected the visitors from Github to our
>> Apache
>> >> server hosted website by providing a forward link in project README.md
>> >> file. Please review it as follows.
>> >>
>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/
>> >>
>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of this website,
>> >>please
>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode.
>> >>
>> >> Very truly yours.
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi patrick,
>> >> >
>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the website to the team.  I
>> personally
>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a graduation.  Specifically
>> saying
>> >> that
>> >> > you need to learn it from github.
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and increase
>> >> community
>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly document release procedures I
>> >>feel
>> >> > that
>> >> > > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there is
>> >>interest
>> >> in
>> >> > > the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do you feel
>> >> you're
>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regards,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Patrick
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <ddu...@apache.org
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with new
>> >> committers
>> >> > >> from different organizations. We have had contributions from other
>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more
>> >>committers.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> cheers
>> >> > >> debo
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one
>> if
>> >> very
>> >> > >> well
>> >> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is
>> >>about
>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-

[REMINDER] Policies around Publicity & Press

2017-07-31 Thread John D. Ament
All Podlings,

In recent days I've been contacted about several publicity issues that have
gone a bit off kilter.  I wanted to remind podlings two very import
policies.

1. Podlings MUST coordinate with the Public Relations Committee with all
publicity activities.
2. The Press Team MUST review any press releases or similar communication
referencing a podling before it is published.

Relevant Links:

https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#publicity_activities
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#publicity_throughout_the_incubation_process

Please reach out with any concerns.

Regards,

John D. Ament
VP, Apache Incubator


Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-06-28 Thread John D. Ament
Hi patrick,

I recently raised an issue with the website to the team.  I personally
would like to see that fixed before a graduation.  Specifically saying that
you need to learn it from github.

John


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:

> Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and increase community
> involvement in general) and clearly document release procedures I feel that
> my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there is interest in
> the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do you feel you're
> ready to graduate at this point?
>
> Regards,
>
> Patrick
>
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <ddu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with new committers
>> from different organizations. We have had contributions from other
>> companies like Cisco recently.
>>
>> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more committers.
>>
>> cheers
>> debo
>>
>> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one if very
>> well
>> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is about
>> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-governing
>> communities".
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
>> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the Apache community as
>> a
>> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following "the apache way"
>> quite
>> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. Ensuring that
>> community is
>> > being built and the community as a whole is owning the process.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps, regards,
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for graduation is they do
>> it
>> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage you to search
>> > through
>> > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of other podlings
>> > running
>> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the IPMC. Then, do it.
>> > >
>> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs in response to
>> the
>> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. Sorry, I didn't
>> think
>> > > that the incubator report might not be read back.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Patrick,
>> > >>
>> > >> I read it.  I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback with
>> > >> Mnemonic directly?  I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't see
>> the
>> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do.
>> > >>
>> > >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page of
>> all
>> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that information
>> > >> here:
>> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic
>> > >>
>> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote,
>> > that's a
>> > >> great sign.
>> > >>
>> > >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the
>> > committer
>> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company
>> > >> affiliations).
>> > >>
>> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to podlings
>> to
>> > >> get
>> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving forward
>> yet
>> > >> due to $reasons.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling
>> report?
>> > Do
>> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in the
>> > past
>> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single
>> person.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > https://wiki.apache

[DRAFT] What the new Status Pages potentially look like

2017-06-12 Thread John D. Ament
All,

We're piloting a new format for the podling status pages.  Specifically,
the current status page leaves a lot to be desired - it's basically crafted
html, there's no structure and its hard to find missing items.  The end
goal is to have a web form editable in Whimsy, but until we get more input
on what the content looks like I don't want to make changes like that.  I'm
asking at this point for podlings to take a look at the status output,
potentially update their own content, and see if they like the output.

If you navigate to https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ (authentication
is via your ASF committer username/password) and find your podling, you'll
see your current roster as well as your current status information.

The status pages can be found in SVN at this directory
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings/

Some more information can be found at
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9504139b5ee9880fdb278f86757803c711fbc962e1934ef2c01a8ed0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

If you're not sure what to fill out, feel free to reach out.

John


Report Sign off

2016-04-12 Thread John D. Ament
Dear Mnemonic Podling,

Your report for the month looks great.  However, it doesn't have mentor
sign off.  Are there any mentors available to sign off on your report?

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2016

  [ ](mnemonic) Patrick Hunt  [ ](mnemonic) Andrew Purtell  [
](mnemonic) James Taylor  [ ](mnemonic) Henry Saputra


John