RE: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread constantin drabo
+1
Constantin

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De : Josh Juneau 
Envoyé : jeudi 3 octobre 2019 03:33
À : dev@netbeans.apache.org 
Objet : Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache 
NetBeans html4j

+1

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM John Mc  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 16:04, Thilina Ranathunga 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > thilina01
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 7:42 PM Junichi Yamamoto 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Junichi
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:25 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > > > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> > > >
> > > > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > > > accepting this donation.
> > > > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> > > >
> > > > Pull request of donation
> > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> > > >
> > > > developped at and subset of
> > > > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > > > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > > > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He is my vote:
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Eric skygo
> > > >
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to ApacheNetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Jose Ch
+1

El jue., 3 oct. 2019 a las 12:57, Christian Lenz ()
escribió:

> +1
>
>
>
> Von: Martin Klähn
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019 18:55
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to
> ApacheNetBeans html4j
>
> +1
>
> -Martin
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 6:39 PM Patrick Musembi 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 19:12, James Gosling  wrote:
> >
> > > +1
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AW: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

2019-10-03 Thread Christian Lenz
+1



Von: Eric Barboni
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019 17:26
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: RE: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

my +1 (binding)

PS:
Yep it's to make the "config for linux"  working again. 
I guess it was splited to avoid to release nb-repository at the same speed of 
nbm-plugin if nothing changes in one or in the other. It's a matter of aligning 
a common version to each of the "suite".




-Message d'origine-
De : Geertjan Wielenga  
Envoyé : jeudi 3 octobre 2019 17:01
À : dev 
Objet : Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

+1

Gj

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
> -jt
>
> PS: I assume this change is going to be needed by the nbm-maven-plugin 
> later - wouldn't it be simpler if we had just one repository for all 
> the nbm-tools and could make all the fixes at once? And vote just once?
>
> st 2. 10. 2019 v 11:59 odesílatel Eric Barboni  napsal:
>
> > Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
> >
> > I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities harness 
> > version
> > 11.1
> > This is a library built using maven artefacts Apache NetBeans 
> > RELEASE111 (making version jump to match) to make tools for 
> > nbm-maven-plugin Contains almost no sources by itself except a placeholder .
> >
> >
> > Harness contains a wrong configuration file that is changed on 
> > release111 that is fixed on
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850
> 785f06
> > 9c59ba
> > <
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850
> 785f069c59ba
> >
> >
> >
> > The voting artefacts sources are located here:
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utiliti
> es/nbm
> > -maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> > <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utiliti
> es/nbm-maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> >
> >
> > In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from 
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-harness
> > with the commit id d634f0fd2777cfcc518a04efe8730e11e697dd86 (tag
> > nbm-maven-harness-11.1)
> >
> > are staged in the following repository:
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1
> 042/
> >
> > Key file is here:
> > https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
> >
> > The vote is open for at least 72h.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Eric Barboni (skygo)
> >
> >
> >
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AW: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to ApacheNetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Christian Lenz
+1



Von: Martin Klähn
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019 18:55
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to 
ApacheNetBeans html4j

+1

-Martin

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 6:39 PM Patrick Musembi 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 19:12, James Gosling  wrote:
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> > +1
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Re: Aligning implementation and specification versions?

2019-10-03 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Create a PR to make the API public!
-jt

Odesláno z iPadu

> 3. 10. 2019 v 3:31, Tim Boudreau :
> 
> +1 - I recently found that to have a preview for a formatter requires a
> friend dependency, which is ridiculous given that the API has not changed
> in many years.
> 
> -Tim
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 7:29 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 19:06, Jesse Glick  wrote:
>>> A long time ago I wrote up
>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NbmPackageStability to discuss problems with
>>> the versioning scheme in NB and propose a different system. At this
>>> point I would say that the proposed change is unnecessarily complex,
>>> and that better development practices would avoid most problems:
>> 
>> Missed this reply at the time - just found it looking for this thread.
>> I like the proposal you wrote, and argued for considering it when
>> there was a vote a while back on what to do with friend dependencies.
>> Not that that vote really led to much conclusive.  I personally
>> probably agree with your assessment on the complexity, and the
>> suggestions seem good - in particular
>> 
>>> · Use simple specification version dependencies, and mark all packages
>>> public which you would expect any other modules to refer to.
>> 
>> ... yes, please let's just do this for NB 11.3 in preparation for next
>> LTS!  The active PRs to add friend access for third-party plugins are
>> just wrong on so many levels.  Let's keep friends only for the
>> minority of legitimate cases where a module has optional extensions
>> that need to be separate.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread mlist
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 18:27:54 +0100 Neil C Smith wrote:

> If Suse has update-alternatives or equivalent, you might be better
> setting up java and javac with that instead?

What is 'update-alternatives'?

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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 18:19, mlist  wrote:
> Yes, but also later on after changing JAVA_HOME the build still fails.

If Suse has update-alternatives or equivalent, you might be better
setting up java and javac with that instead?

Best wishes,

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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 03.10.2019, 19:49 +0300 schrieb mlist:
> Are you sure the culprit is ant? As I mentioned previously using
> -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true works. Doesn't that mean that ant is OK but
> something else needs fixing?
> 
> * Generally I am reluctant to downloading and installing software
> which
>   is not in the official distro repos as this makes long term
>   maintenance a nightmare. So I hope I won't need to do it

seriously, you expect me to figure out your problem, but then you
discuss possible solutions.

You dismiss possible solutions and don't even try them.

I'll stop putting time into this. The build is stable (demonstrated by
the CI pipeline), it works for me on Ubuntu and we have reports, that
switching from the distributions ant to the upstream ant also fixes the
build.

Greetings

Matthias


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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
What is JAVA_HOME now set to?

Gj

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 19:19, mlist  wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 18:51:53 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> > I copied and pasted the error messages from your stack trace which tells
> > you explicitly that your JAVA_HOME is pointing to the JRE instead of the
> > JDK.
>
> Yes, but also later on after changing JAVA_HOME the build still fails.
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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread mlist
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 18:51:53 +0200 Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

> I copied and pasted the error messages from your stack trace which tells
> you explicitly that your JAVA_HOME is pointing to the JRE instead of the
> JDK.

Yes, but also later on after changing JAVA_HOME the build still fails.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Handling convenience binary vote(?) for 11.2

2019-10-03 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 17:00, Laszlo Kishalmi  wrote:
> In case if we would like to vote on binaries, IMHO, I'd go with a mixed
> option. We could keep the source and the binary zip distribution on a
> single thread as they have "instant visibility". Then vote on the
> installers (probably by platform) and other binaries on separate threads.

That's a good point about per-platform installer votes.  I'd been
having similar thoughts, at least the whole thing that bugs me about
changing what we've been doing is the added complexity while still not
actually ensuring that *someone* has looked at eg. the installer for
any particular platform.  Assuming we don't require every voter on a
release to check every binary on every platform! :-)

We've never had the binary zip as part of the vote thread before,
although I know some people have checked them in the vote threads I've
tallied.  Still, Daniel's comment "If it's not source code, you cannot
reliably vote on anything." makes me want to keep the votes (if not
necessarily the threads) separate.

One option might be to run multiple votes in the one thread with the
following template (ie. copy and paste in the reply)?  Or is this too
damn complicated?

eg.
===
Apache NetBeans source release

Before voting +1 PMC members are required to download the signed
source code package, compile it as provided, and test the resulting
executable on their own platform, along with also verifying that the
package meets the requirements of the ASF policy on releases.

Release vote (+1 / -1) :

Apache NetBeans convenience binaries

Further to voting on the release, you may vote on the associated
convenience binaries. As well as checking any artifact functions
correctly, you should check that it has been correctly signed by a PMC
member, and that the source voted on above is sufficient to build the
relevant binary.

Vote (+1/-1) on each, or leave blank if unchecked.

Binary zip distribution and NBMs :
Maven artifacts :
Windows installer :
macOS installer :
Linux installer :
=

So, one complicated vote thread or six simpler ones maybe?

We should consider using wording similar to the above, which is mostly
from the release guidelines, to clarify what needs doing anyway.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Martin Klähn
+1

-Martin

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 6:39 PM Patrick Musembi 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 19:12, James Gosling  wrote:
>
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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 18:49, mlist  wrote:

> Geertjan,
>
> I can't understand what you mean by this and how I am supposed to use
> it. Could you kindly clarify please?
>


I copied and pasted the error messages from your stack trace which tells
you explicitly that your JAVA_HOME is pointing to the JRE instead of the
JDK.

Gj






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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread mlist
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 14:53:51 +0200 Matthias Bläsing wrote:

> Please check which ant you are using to build. We have at least one
> report, where the distribution packed ant messed up the build:

The software versions I am using (from openSUSE's repos) are:

ant-1.9.10-lp150.2.3.1.noarch
java-11-openjdk-11.0.4.0-lp150.2.25.1.x86_64
java-11-openjdk-devel-11.0.4.0-lp150.2.25.1.x86_64
java-11-openjdk-headless-11.0.4.0-lp150.2.25.1.x86_64
java-1_8_0-openjdk-1.8.0.222-lp150.2.19.1.x86_64
java-1_8_0-openjdk-devel-1.8.0.222-lp150.2.19.1.x86_64
java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.222-lp150.2.19.1.x86_64

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-239

That report says that ant 1.9.9 or newer is required, so that is
satisfied, right?

> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org/msg06452.html

This discussion is 19 months old and unfortunately I can't quite
understand what is the issue there.

> TL;DR: Download a fresh version of ant from apache, put it on the path
> and build with that.

Are you sure the culprit is ant? As I mentioned previously using
-Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true works. Doesn't that mean that ant is OK but
something else needs fixing?

* Generally I am reluctant to downloading and installing software which
  is not in the official distro repos as this makes long term
  maintenance a nightmare. So I hope I won't need to do it.

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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread mlist
Geertjan,

I can't understand what you mean by this and how I am supposed to use
it. Could you kindly clarify please?

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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Patrick Musembi
+1

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 19:12, James Gosling  wrote:

> +1
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread James Gosling
+1


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Re: [DISCUSS] Handling convenience binary vote(?) for 11.2

2019-10-03 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi

Dear all,

In case if we would like to vote on binaries, IMHO, I'd go with a mixed 
option. We could keep the source and the binary zip distribution on a 
single thread as they have "instant visibility". Then vote on the 
installers (probably by platform) and other binaries on separate threads.


On 10/3/19 3:43 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

Hi All,

While waiting for some testing with beta2 ahead of announcing it, I
wanted to follow up on the discussion [1] about approving convenience
binaries.  There was some talk of having a voting or lazy consensus
thread on them, or linking them to the release vote.

To date, we have only voted on source releases - binaries may have
been ready at vote time, but in the voting template we've been
explicitly telling everyone they're not relevant and not linking them
in!

So, what to do for NB 11.2?

We could add the binaries into the release vote.  That would require
changing our voting template, and I think considering what steps might
need doing in addition to the required steps for a binding release
vote from [2]

We could have concurrent voting or consensus threads on the binary
artefacts, perhaps separate for installers, Maven, etc.  If there is a
problem with any one binary that doesn't require source changes to fix
it, it then need not delay the release vote itself passing.  Some
binaries may come later.

My preference is probably the second option (if we have to do either).

Incidentally, in the original thread my preference was not to do
either of these things so formally!  At the same time, I did think
some process so that another PMC member had given the once-over on any
binary to check requirements had been met was useful.  Neither of
those options actually do that.  Maybe there's merit to a consensus
thread with associated wiki page table of binaries that PMC members
can tick off when they've checked any one of them?  We can know at a
glance what has and hasn't been checked over.

[1] - 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c0d11a5d311bb4bdd73ee8488e0383ea2b04166c820be183b54f1182@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
[2] - http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#approving-a-release

Best wishes,

Neil
Volunteer Release Manager for Apache Netbeans 11.2

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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Josh Juneau
+1

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM John Mc  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 16:04, Thilina Ranathunga 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > thilina01
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 7:42 PM Junichi Yamamoto 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Junichi
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:25 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > > > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> > > >
> > > > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > > > accepting this donation.
> > > > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> > > >
> > > > Pull request of donation
> > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> > > >
> > > > developped at and subset of
> > > > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > > > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > > > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He is my vote:
> > > > +1
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RE: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

2019-10-03 Thread Eric Barboni
my +1 (binding)

PS:
Yep it's to make the "config for linux"  working again. 
I guess it was splited to avoid to release nb-repository at the same speed of 
nbm-plugin if nothing changes in one or in the other. It's a matter of aligning 
a common version to each of the "suite".




-Message d'origine-
De : Geertjan Wielenga  
Envoyé : jeudi 3 octobre 2019 17:01
À : dev 
Objet : Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

+1

Gj

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
> -jt
>
> PS: I assume this change is going to be needed by the nbm-maven-plugin 
> later - wouldn't it be simpler if we had just one repository for all 
> the nbm-tools and could make all the fixes at once? And vote just once?
>
> st 2. 10. 2019 v 11:59 odesílatel Eric Barboni  napsal:
>
> > Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
> >
> > I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities harness 
> > version
> > 11.1
> > This is a library built using maven artefacts Apache NetBeans 
> > RELEASE111 (making version jump to match) to make tools for 
> > nbm-maven-plugin Contains almost no sources by itself except a placeholder .
> >
> >
> > Harness contains a wrong configuration file that is changed on 
> > release111 that is fixed on
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850
> 785f06
> > 9c59ba
> > <
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850
> 785f069c59ba
> >
> >
> >
> > The voting artefacts sources are located here:
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utiliti
> es/nbm
> > -maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> > <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utiliti
> es/nbm-maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> >
> >
> > In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from 
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-harness
> > with the commit id d634f0fd2777cfcc518a04efe8730e11e697dd86 (tag
> > nbm-maven-harness-11.1)
> >
> > are staged in the following repository:
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1
> 042/
> >
> > Key file is here:
> > https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
> >
> > The vote is open for at least 72h.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Eric Barboni (skygo)
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread John Mc
+1

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 16:04, Thilina Ranathunga  wrote:

> +1
>
> thilina01
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 7:42 PM Junichi Yamamoto 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Junichi
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:25 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> > >
> > > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > > accepting this donation.
> > > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> > >
> > > Pull request of donation
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> > >
> > > developped at and subset of
> > > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> > >
> > >
> > > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> > >
> > >
> > > He is my vote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Eric skygo
> > >
> > >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

2019-10-03 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi

+1 (binding)

On 10/3/19 8:01 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

+1

Gj

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:


+1 (binding)
-jt

PS: I assume this change is going to be needed by the nbm-maven-plugin
later - wouldn't it be simpler if we had just one repository for all the
nbm-tools and could make all the fixes at once? And vote just once?

st 2. 10. 2019 v 11:59 odesílatel Eric Barboni  napsal:


Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.

I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities harness
version
11.1
This is a library built using maven artefacts Apache NetBeans RELEASE111
(making version jump to match) to make tools for nbm-maven-plugin
Contains almost no sources by itself except a placeholder .


Harness contains a wrong configuration file that is changed on release111
that is fixed on



https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850785f06

9c59ba
<

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850785f069c59ba



The voting artefacts sources are located here:



https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nbm

-maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
<

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nbm-maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/


In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from
https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-harness
with the commit id d634f0fd2777cfcc518a04efe8730e11e697dd86 (tag
nbm-maven-harness-11.1)

are staged in the following repository:


https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1042/

Key file is here:
https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS

The vote is open for at least 72h.

Best Regards

Eric Barboni (skygo)



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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Thilina Ranathunga
+1

thilina01


On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 7:42 PM Junichi Yamamoto  wrote:

> +1
>
> Thanks,
> Junichi
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:25 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> >
> > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > accepting this donation.
> > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> >
> > Pull request of donation
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> >
> > developped at and subset of
> > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> >
> >
> > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> >
> > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> >
> >
> > He is my vote:
> > +1
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Eric skygo
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

2019-10-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
+1

Gj

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
> -jt
>
> PS: I assume this change is going to be needed by the nbm-maven-plugin
> later - wouldn't it be simpler if we had just one repository for all the
> nbm-tools and could make all the fixes at once? And vote just once?
>
> st 2. 10. 2019 v 11:59 odesílatel Eric Barboni  napsal:
>
> > Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
> >
> > I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities harness
> > version
> > 11.1
> > This is a library built using maven artefacts Apache NetBeans RELEASE111
> > (making version jump to match) to make tools for nbm-maven-plugin
> > Contains almost no sources by itself except a placeholder .
> >
> >
> > Harness contains a wrong configuration file that is changed on release111
> > that is fixed on
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850785f06
> > 9c59ba
> > <
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850785f069c59ba
> >
> >
> >
> > The voting artefacts sources are located here:
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nbm
> > -maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> > <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nbm-maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> >
> >
> > In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-harness
> > with the commit id d634f0fd2777cfcc518a04efe8730e11e697dd86 (tag
> > nbm-maven-harness-11.1)
> >
> > are staged in the following repository:
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1042/
> >
> > Key file is here:
> > https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
> >
> > The vote is open for at least 72h.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Eric Barboni (skygo)
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities harness version 11.1

2019-10-03 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
+1 (binding)
-jt

PS: I assume this change is going to be needed by the nbm-maven-plugin
later - wouldn't it be simpler if we had just one repository for all the
nbm-tools and could make all the fixes at once? And vote just once?

st 2. 10. 2019 v 11:59 odesílatel Eric Barboni  napsal:

> Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
>
> I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities harness
> version
> 11.1
> This is a library built using maven artefacts Apache NetBeans RELEASE111
> (making version jump to match) to make tools for nbm-maven-plugin
> Contains almost no sources by itself except a placeholder .
>
>
> Harness contains a wrong configuration file that is changed on release111
> that is fixed on
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e124ee61512a483cc79932269850785f06
> 9c59ba
> 
>
>
> The voting artefacts sources are located here:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nbm
> -maven-harness/nbm-maven-harness-11.1/
> 
>
> In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-harness
> with the commit id d634f0fd2777cfcc518a04efe8730e11e697dd86 (tag
> nbm-maven-harness-11.1)
>
> are staged in the following repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1042/
>
> Key file is here:
> https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
>
> The vote is open for at least 72h.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Eric Barboni (skygo)
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
+1

Thanks,
Junichi

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:25 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
>
> This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> accepting this donation.
> This is part of IP Clearance process.
>
> Pull request of donation
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
>
> developped at and subset of
> https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
>
>
> Vote is open for at least 72h .
>
> [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> [ ]  0 : No opinion
> [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
>
>
> He is my vote:
> +1
>
> Best Regards
> Eric skygo
>
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
+1
-jt


čt 3. 10. 2019 v 13:25 odesílatel Eric Barboni  napsal:

> Hi folks,
>
> Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
>
> This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> accepting this donation.
> This is part of IP Clearance process.
>
> Pull request of donation
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
>
> developped at and subset of
> https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
>
>
> Vote is open for at least 72h .
>
> [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> [ ]  0 : No opinion
> [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
>
>
> He is my vote:
> +1
>
> Best Regards
> Eric skygo
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/3/19 6:25 AM, Eric Barboni wrote:
> Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> 
> This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> accepting this donation. 

+1

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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Am Donnerstag, den 03.10.2019, 15:26 +0300 schrieb mlist:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 23:06:58 +0300 mlist wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am trying to build NetBeans 11.1 from source code on openSUSE
> > Leap
> > 15. I have read the instructions and the README.md but
> > unfortunately I
> > am getting errors which I don't know how to fix as I am not a Java
> > developer (my intention is to use NetBeans IDE for PHP, CSS,
> > JavaScript).
> > 
> > Here is the output I am getting:
> > 
> > https://susepaste.org/673abb68
> > 
> > What should I do to make this work please?
> 
> Can anyone please help?
> 

Please check which ant you are using to build. We have at least one
report, where the distribution packed ant messed up the build:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-239

Before you say it: Yes the bug talks about Fedora, but the mailing list
indicates similar problems on OpenSuSE:

https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org/msg06452.html

TL;DR: Download a fresh version of ant from apache, put it on the path
and build with that.

HTH

Matthias


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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
   1. BUILD FAILED
   2. /tmp/download/src/nbbuild/build.xml:59: Unable to find a javac
   compiler;
   3. com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath.
   4. Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK.
   5. It is currently set to "/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0/jre"


On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:26 PM mlist  wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 23:06:58 +0300 mlist wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to build NetBeans 11.1 from source code on openSUSE Leap
> > 15. I have read the instructions and the README.md but unfortunately I
> > am getting errors which I don't know how to fix as I am not a Java
> > developer (my intention is to use NetBeans IDE for PHP, CSS,
> > JavaScript).
> >
> > Here is the output I am getting:
> >
> > https://susepaste.org/673abb68
> >
> > What should I do to make this work please?
>
> Can anyone please help?
>
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Tushar Joshi
+1

with regards
Tushar

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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Oliver Rettig
+1 and also many thanks to Toni
Just two student groups will start in our lab at Cooperative Univervsity 
Karlsruhe to develop 
some apps based on DukeScript ...

> +1
> 
> Thanks Toni
> 
> -Sven
> 
> Geertjan Wielenga  schrieb am Do., 3. Okt. 2019, 14:12:
> > +1.
> > 
> > Gj
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:29 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > Been hoping for this! :-)
> > > 
> > > Best wishes,
> > > 
> > > Neil
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > > 
> > > > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > > > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> > > > 
> > > > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > > > accepting this donation.
> > > > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> > > > 
> > > > Pull request of donation
> > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> > > > 
> > > > developped at and subset of
> > > > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> > > > 
> > > > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > > > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > > > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> > > > 
> > > > He is my vote:
> > > > +1
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Eric skygo
> > > > 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Kai Uwe Pel

+1

Thank you

Kai


On 10/3/2019 2:43 PM, Sven Reimers wrote:

+1

Thanks Toni

-Sven

Geertjan Wielenga  schrieb am Do., 3. Okt. 2019, 14:12:


+1.

Gj

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:29 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:


+1

Been hoping for this! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Eric Barboni  wrote:

Hi folks,

Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.

This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
accepting this donation.
This is part of IP Clearance process.

Pull request of donation
https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23

developped at and subset of
https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters


Vote is open for at least 72h .

 [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
 [ ]  0 : No opinion
 [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...


He is my vote:
+1

Best Regards
Eric skygo


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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Sven Reimers
+1

Thanks Toni

-Sven

Geertjan Wielenga  schrieb am Do., 3. Okt. 2019, 14:12:

> +1.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:29 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Been hoping for this! :-)
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> > >
> > > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > > accepting this donation.
> > > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> > >
> > > Pull request of donation
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> > >
> > > developped at and subset of
> > > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> > >
> > >
> > > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> > >
> > >
> > > He is my vote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Eric skygo
> > >
> > >
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Re: Building NetBeans 11.1 from source fails with compile errors

2019-10-03 Thread mlist
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 23:06:58 +0300 mlist wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to build NetBeans 11.1 from source code on openSUSE Leap
> 15. I have read the instructions and the README.md but unfortunately I
> am getting errors which I don't know how to fix as I am not a Java
> developer (my intention is to use NetBeans IDE for PHP, CSS,
> JavaScript).
> 
> Here is the output I am getting:
> 
> https://susepaste.org/673abb68
> 
> What should I do to make this work please?

Can anyone please help?

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RE: [DISCUSS] Handling convenience binary vote(?) for 11.2

2019-10-03 Thread Eric Barboni
All I know from this voting aspect is by following other project.

On Apache Maven vote call contains, 
dist is only containing sources , binaries conveniences are on repository. 
Vote is handled on one thread.

On Apache Ant vote call contains,
Dist tarball contains sources and binaries ,
Maven repository artefacts
Snap 
Vote is handled on one thread.

For Apache http server vote call
They only vote on source on one thread.
IT's explicitly written that binaries are not done by the project. Only by 
committer to the project.

I think, if we want all our binaries to be endorsed by Apache NetBeans we need 
to vote on them.

We may try concurrent:
Release Manager only care on building source 
Then vote (72h)
3 binding +1 vote
On the voted source, we build conveniences maven,binaries,installer,(eventually 
snap to be complete ) and for each a vote (72h) 
9(+3) binding +1 vote required to have them all. 

We may try like Ant or Maven
"Heavy" preparation and synchronization from people that may help preparing 
Maven,Snap,Installer , with Release Manager 
Get a bigger vote mail with all element prepared.(72h)
3 binding +1 vote required to have them all.

Best Regards
Eric
-Message d'origine-
De : Neil C Smith  
Envoyé : jeudi 3 octobre 2019 12:43
À : dev 
Objet : [DISCUSS] Handling convenience binary vote(?) for 11.2

Hi All,

While waiting for some testing with beta2 ahead of announcing it, I wanted to 
follow up on the discussion [1] about approving convenience binaries.  There 
was some talk of having a voting or lazy consensus thread on them, or linking 
them to the release vote.

To date, we have only voted on source releases - binaries may have been ready 
at vote time, but in the voting template we've been explicitly telling everyone 
they're not relevant and not linking them in!

So, what to do for NB 11.2?

We could add the binaries into the release vote.  That would require changing 
our voting template, and I think considering what steps might need doing in 
addition to the required steps for a binding release vote from [2]

We could have concurrent voting or consensus threads on the binary artefacts, 
perhaps separate for installers, Maven, etc.  If there is a problem with any 
one binary that doesn't require source changes to fix it, it then need not 
delay the release vote itself passing.  Some binaries may come later.

My preference is probably the second option (if we have to do either).

Incidentally, in the original thread my preference was not to do either of 
these things so formally!  At the same time, I did think some process so that 
another PMC member had given the once-over on any binary to check requirements 
had been met was useful.  Neither of those options actually do that.  Maybe 
there's merit to a consensus thread with associated wiki page table of binaries 
that PMC members can tick off when they've checked any one of them?  We can 
know at a glance what has and hasn't been checked over.

[1] - 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c0d11a5d311bb4bdd73ee8488e0383ea2b04166c820be183b54f1182@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
[2] - http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#approving-a-release

Best wishes,

Neil
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
+1.

Gj

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:29 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> +1
>
> Been hoping for this! :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> > DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> >
> > This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> > accepting this donation.
> > This is part of IP Clearance process.
> >
> > Pull request of donation
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
> >
> > developped at and subset of
> > https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
> >
> >
> > Vote is open for at least 72h .
> >
> > [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> > [ ]  0 : No opinion
> > [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
> >
> >
> > He is my vote:
> > +1
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Eric skygo
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Neil C Smith
+1

Been hoping for this! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Eric Barboni  wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
>
> This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> accepting this donation.
> This is part of IP Clearance process.
>
> Pull request of donation
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23
>
> developped at and subset of
> https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters
>
>
> Vote is open for at least 72h .
>
> [ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
> [ ]  0 : No opinion
> [ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...
>
>
> He is my vote:
> +1
>
> Best Regards
> Eric skygo
>
>
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[VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi folks,

Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.

This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
accepting this donation. 
This is part of IP Clearance process.

Pull request of donation
https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/pull/23

developped at and subset of
https://github.com/dukescript/dukescript-presenters


Vote is open for at least 72h .

[ ] +1 : Accept contribution of "core DukeScript presenters"
[ ]  0 : No opinion
[ ] -1 : Reject contribution because...


He is my vote: 
+1

Best Regards
Eric skygo


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Apache NetBeans 11.2-beta2 Is Available for Testing!

2019-10-03 Thread Neil C Smith
Dear Community,

I'd like to announce that the second beta build for Apache NetBeans
11.2 from the release112 branch is available for download. Apologies
for the slight delay - more waiting on Jenkins! A (hopefully) final
beta will be released on Oct 9th - please help with testing, reporting
issues and/or fixes. Release is aimed for Oct ~15th.

As per the release schedule, NB 11.2 is a non-LTS release, and will
not have a full NetCAT process.  However, feedback and testing from
those on the dev@ and netcat@ lists would still be appreciated,
particularly around new features.  Please file issues in JIRA as
necessary, with the affects and fix versions set to 11.2. Please take
note of the Bug Priority Guidelines (link below), in particular so
that we can address critical and blocking issues if they arise.

For details of changes between beta1 and beta2 please see
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1539

In particular, the mechanism for distributing nb-javac has changed,
and testing that would be appreciated.

We have also added in support for build numbers based on git hash.
Building from the source bundle should hopefully give you the right
version, and identical build number / module implementation versions
as the binary release. Again, testing would be appreciated.

**If making PRs to fix issues, please add the 11.2 milestone and add
me as one of the reviewers**


See the artefacts here:
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release112/23/artifact/dist/

The binary you most likely need is:
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release112/23/artifact/dist/netbeans-11.2-beta2-bin.zip

The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are provided there as
well as here:
68839deb178a1e4751c747c48fff29a408035e4ce70f08ac4e344eb0a8672ec1944b6dd86618c1a014c01bbc19494c8809237fd7cf1385005fb299a35dc5a11a
 ./netbeans-11.2-beta2-bin.zip
e06eca69a54c525269a632b7f79b5fe1fff1c00f98293b8e27f6e9604086dc7ee56fbc29000305a0f35c4af6232a2ff8afc6ed90c1315cf0f841cb3f54f4bd2f
 ./netbeans-11.2-beta2-source.zip


New build infrastructure - known issues / changes:
As you may notice from the links, this is the first release using the
new build templates and Jenkins task (thanks Eric!). One thing this
does is switch from hardcoded versions across the code base to filling
this in from a central configuration file based on git branch and
hash.

* (FIXED) Local building from the source bundle is not correctly
picking up the git info file in the source bundle. Run `cp
nbbuild/gitinfo.properties nbbuild/build/` before running Ant (or
otherwise manually create the nbbuild/build folder and copy
gitinfo.properties into it). Will be fixed before full release as it's
a blocking issue.
* A git checkout of the release branch will also not correctly pick up
the required git info - this will be looked at before release too.
* (FIXED) File names are not currently marked with the beta1 suffix.
On the other hand, the splash and window are. Win some, lose some!
* The userdir will now be named differently for each beta and the final release.
* (FIXED?) Implementation versions across builds of the same sources
still differ. It is planned to fix this prior to release (separate
thread to follow).


Release schedule :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
Bug Priority Guidelines :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Bug+Priority+Guidelines
NB 11.2 major changes :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.2


Thanks and best wishes,

Neil
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[DISCUSS] Handling convenience binary vote(?) for 11.2

2019-10-03 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi All,

While waiting for some testing with beta2 ahead of announcing it, I
wanted to follow up on the discussion [1] about approving convenience
binaries.  There was some talk of having a voting or lazy consensus
thread on them, or linking them to the release vote.

To date, we have only voted on source releases - binaries may have
been ready at vote time, but in the voting template we've been
explicitly telling everyone they're not relevant and not linking them
in!

So, what to do for NB 11.2?

We could add the binaries into the release vote.  That would require
changing our voting template, and I think considering what steps might
need doing in addition to the required steps for a binding release
vote from [2]

We could have concurrent voting or consensus threads on the binary
artefacts, perhaps separate for installers, Maven, etc.  If there is a
problem with any one binary that doesn't require source changes to fix
it, it then need not delay the release vote itself passing.  Some
binaries may come later.

My preference is probably the second option (if we have to do either).

Incidentally, in the original thread my preference was not to do
either of these things so formally!  At the same time, I did think
some process so that another PMC member had given the once-over on any
binary to check requirements had been met was useful.  Neither of
those options actually do that.  Maybe there's merit to a consensus
thread with associated wiki page table of binaries that PMC members
can tick off when they've checked any one of them?  We can know at a
glance what has and hasn't been checked over.

[1] - 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c0d11a5d311bb4bdd73ee8488e0383ea2b04166c820be183b54f1182@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
[2] - http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#approving-a-release

Best wishes,

Neil
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