date:20191015

Thanks

From: Laszlo Kishalmi 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:55 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org 
Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

Just create an NBM from the module, then install that NBM as a
downloaded one.

Other solution:

Create the NBM-s in the build directory you going to find an
updates.xml. Get the file: url of that updates.xml and add it as a
custom update center to the ide. This way you can even update the your
module and it can easily updated from the Available updates...

On 10/15/19 12:21 AM, Peter Cheung wrote:
> Dear Geertjan
>  Yes, i debug my module in different instance. But I feel my module is 
> quite stable now, so i want to do UAT for myself by installing it to my 
> netbeans. So far i do "Install/Reload in Development IDE", then netbeans 
> hangs, then i kill the process and restart it. It is fine to me now but just 
> want to know how people do that.
> Thanks
>  From Peter
> 
> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:16 PM
> To: dev 
> Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current 
> computer
>
> Well, you're going to need to provide more info, if you want that fixed --
> log messages.
>
> Also, it is better to always run a module into a different instance of
> NetBeans, which you can also do by right-clicking the module and choosing
> that option.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:11 AM Peter Cheung  wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> When you developing modules, you must want to install it locally when
>> it reach a stable stage. How you do it? If i click "Install/Reload in
>> Development IDE", the netbeans will hangs, so i believe it is not the
>> recommended way.
>> Thanks
>>  From Peter
>>

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Re: Beta3 sneak preview

Downloaded, unzipped, up and running with nb-javac installed in the process
of creating a new Java Maven app.

Thanks, to me, looks solid.

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:42 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Second beta3 build just completed, but I've only done minor testing -
> need to finish for day.  I'll fully check it tomorrow morning, and
> announce also on netcat@ properly, but if you want to test anything
> that's changed you can find the files at -
>
>
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release112/26/artifact/dist/
>
> There's a minor chance this won't be beta3 still, so don't share links
> elsewhere just yet!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Beta3 sneak preview

Hi,

Second beta3 build just completed, but I've only done minor testing -
need to finish for day.  I'll fully check it tomorrow morning, and
announce also on netcat@ properly, but if you want to test anything
that's changed you can find the files at -

https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release112/26/artifact/dist/

There's a minor chance this won't be beta3 still, so don't share links
elsewhere just yet!

Best wishes,

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

2019-10-15 Thread Alessandro

Jiri, I have received the mail notifications from the system signaling the
approval for each NB version I applied to.

Thanks for the kind words, this plugin was more like a test bed before
applying it to my more important NB Spring Boot plugin.

Regards,
Alex

Il giorno mar 15 ott 2019 alle 11:46 Jiří Kovalský 
ha scritto:

> Hi Alessandro,
>
> that's perfect. I have approved your plugin and also added my Go
> votes so now you only need one more verification from some other
> verifier and your plugin will show up on the Update Center(s). I will
> talk to Geertjan in about 1.5 hour and ask him to add his Go vote too.
>
> And many thanks! Your plugin is great!
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 14. 10. 19 v 9:49 Alessandro napsal(a):
>
> > Hi Jiri,
> >I managed to submit my first plugin this morning following the steps
> in
> > the Help section.
> >
> > The plug-in is now listed as waiting approval, I have also requested
> > verification for a set of NB versions.
> >
> > What are the next steps?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alex
> >
> > Il giorno gio 10 ott 2019 alle ore 00:11 Jiří Kovalský <
> > jiri.koval...@oracle.com> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Hello NetBeans people,
> >>
> >>  if you have ever fine-tuned your NetBeans IDE with some
> >> community-contributed plugin or you are a plugin developer yourself,
> >> please read this e-mail carefully.
> >>
> >>  The last reason for netbeans.org domain existence is the NetBeans
> >> Plugin Portal - our repository of NetBeans extensions. Given the
> >> original infrastructure is no longer maintained by Oracle and in order
> >> to avoid potential legal issues with hosting 3rd party binaries licensed
> >> under Apache incompatible licenses we have decided for a complete
> >> rewrite of the Plugin Portal website.
> >>
> >>  Today, we are happy to announce the result of our effort, the brand
> >> new Plugin Portal version 3.0 [1] which is running on the same Apache
> >> infrastructure which already hosts Synergy - the tests management tool
> >> for NetCAT programs.
> >>
> >> [1]
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=r2Pl4tAqfl2Fpue3mplTOSFb8KFLXurqgXTZVClkk7s=MwGXPH_8H_D5bcwkyWyt6T54TPgNB5F4KjTIBH6yvHs=
> >>
> >> The 3 most substantial changes if compared with Plugin Portal 2.0 are:
> >>
> >> * Only plugins published in the Maven Central Repository can be
> >> registered in the Plugin Portal 3.0.
> >> * Only NBM or JAR file types are supported binary formats.
> >> * Google SSO is used as authentication mechanism.
> >>
> >>  The concept of community controlled publishing of plugins on the
> >> Plugin Portal Update Center remains unchanged i.e. if two verifiers
> >> approve a plugin and nobody disapproves it, the plugin gets
> >> automatically added to the module catalog for appropriate NetBeans
> version.
> >>
> >>  Sounds good so far? Cool! The purpose of this message though is to
> >> ask for cooperation. :) As you could have guessed we need to load the
> >> new Plugin Portal with meaningful plugins so if you have developed a
> >> NetBeans plugin, please publish it in the Maven Central and then share
> >> it with others through the new Plugin Portal. And obviously sending us
> >> any feedback on the registration process or Plugin Portal's new user
> >> interface in general will be much appreciated! Bugs should be created
> >> against "updatecenters - Pluginportal" component.
> >>
> >>  Finally, once the final polishing is made, we will open source the
> >> codebase so that everyone can participate in improving the website. And
> >> if you are curious, the credit for creating the new Plugin Portal goes
> >> to Jan Pirek (jpirek). Hats off to you, Jan!
> >>
> >> Thanks and long live the Plugin Portal 3.0!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> -Jirka
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Re: Switch plugin portal in NetBeans 11.2 to new one?

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:56, Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:15, Christian Pervoelz  wrote:
> > Imho there will not be that many plugins moved. Why?
> > - many plugins in the old update center seems to be not maintained anymore
>
> While in many ways I agree with what you said, there is something
> important to note here that possibly makes it far less of an issue.
> The old 8.2 plugin portal is still listed, but disabled by default,
> and has been since 11.0 or earlier.  (although we should probably put
> that on notice for 11.3?)

Actually, ignore me there - sorry!  Despite the plugin portal label,
that ain't what it is.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Switch plugin portal in NetBeans 11.2 to new one?

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:15, Christian Pervoelz  wrote:
> Imho there will not be that many plugins moved. Why?
> - many plugins in the old update center seems to be not maintained anymore

While in many ways I agree with what you said, there is something
important to note here that possibly makes it far less of an issue.
The old 8.2 plugin portal is still listed, but disabled by default,
and has been since 11.0 or earlier.  (although we should probably put
that on notice for 11.3?)

So, we're really only talking about plugins that have been added to
the 11.0 section of the old plugin portal very recently.  Hopefully
most of those are maintained and the authors (a fair few of which are
here) can be encouraged to move quickly.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: NB 11.2 blockers?

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, 14:49 Laszlo Kishalmi, 
wrote:

> Cleared them.
>

Thanks! My opinion too, or I wouldn't have triggered the beta build, but
good to have another check.

Unfortunately had to retrigger the beta build :-\  Probably be announced
tomorrow now.

Neil

>

Re: Switch plugin portal in NetBeans 11.2 to new one?

2019-10-15 Thread Christian Pervoelz

>
>
> ... shall we replace that with the new one,
>
 +1 for that. And -1 for that.;)

I really appreciate NB is moving forward and away from old approaches, but
I have some small concerns here (that's the -1 for)


> forcing those plugin authors from the previous one to move theirs there,
>
Imho there will not be that many plugins moved. Why?
- many plugins in the old update center seems to be not maintained anymore
- many plugin authors might not want to take the steps required now -
compared to the old portal, the new way is really difficult and requires a
lot of extra work
- many authors of plugins might not read the mailing list and so they may
not recognize these discussions
- many authors may also turned away from NB and just do not care anymore
about the plugins

So, there is a couple of question now:
What should happen with those plugins not moved over at all, but which are
maybe still useful?
Should authors of plugins (dedicated to old NB versions) also be forced to
move them and by that update them?
How can authors be forced? Do we know, how we can address them?
...


> and if someone wants to use the ones that are not moved, no problem, they
> can register the old one manually?
>
Really? I'm really into UX, and that proposal is a good example for an
"improvable" user experience. Just let me give a very simple example.
Just assume we have a "normal" user. Not one, that develops NB itself or
creates plugins. Such a user opens the plugin dialog and selects those
plugins one thinks they are useful. This user does not care whether there
is an option to add addtional plugin centers or not, one might not even
know about that possibility! And especially such a user will not crawl the
web to find additional urls for update centers.
Such users just want to install (or unzip), start the IDE, may set some
options and start working.

And now assume further, one migrates from NB 8.x to NB 11.2 (w/o using the
plugin copy option) and oooh suprise: there are no plugins available. What
will happen now? Either the user steps away from NB or the mailing lists
will be flooded talking about a bug with the plugins.

>From a perspective of *user experience*, it might be better to have the old
and the new urls built-in by default. That might cause additionall
implementation (I'm really not familiar with that code).


Greetz,
CP

Re: build failure..

2019-10-15 Thread Matthias Bläsing

Hi Brad,

Am Mittwoch, den 09.10.2019, 16:20 -0600 schrieb Brad Walker:
> I'm getting a build failure and not sure where to look.. I have some
> ideas
> but thought I would ask here.
> 
> Building w/ the following ant gives me an error:
> 
> bwalker@brads-T460s:~/netbeans$ ant download-selected-extbins
> ...
> download-selected-extbins:
>  [echo] Downloading external binaries (*/external/ directories)
> for
> cluster.config=release...
> [downloadbinaries] Creating
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.linux/external/javafx-web-
> 13-linux.jar
> [downloadbinaries] File
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.linux/external/javafx-web-
> 13-linux.jar
> requested by
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.linux/external/binaries-list 
> to
> have hash B62DE9D7C7F32656A8E23D674C522BCB838F5165 actually had hash
> E9AF793B1F03EBE08981C648B9F35115637AAE0A
> [downloadbinaries] Creating
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.macosx/external/javafx-web-
> 13-mac.jar
> [downloadbinaries] File
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.macosx/external/javafx-web-
> 13-mac.jar
> requested by
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.macosx/external/binaries-
> list to
> have hash 7E9DB22A36E139D9BFF15C36B748693C28B03DDB actually had hash
> 9848F794157A22E39BB6B65CAF21C80A3D83B11C
> [downloadbinaries] Creating
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.win/external/javafx-web-13-
> win.jar
> [downloadbinaries] File
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.win/external/javafx-web-13-
> win.jar
> requested by
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/extra/libs.javafx.win/external/binaries-list
> to have
> hash 77019F6896CC76B421289C7666F692F758610E32 actually had hash
> E834FC8FA3093CCD483C20B65104ECC8C2B2DE66
> 
> BUILD FAILED
> /home/bwalker/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:214: Failed to download
> binaries -
> see log message for the detailed reasons.
> 
> Total time: 8 seconds
> bwalker@brads-T460s:~/netbeans$
> ..
> 
> I assume it's pulling the jars from a remote repo somewhere and the
> checksum doesn't match up with whats in the binaries-list file..
> 

this sound like either your local maven repository got corrupted or you
installed JavaFX into your local maven repository, that did not binary
match the ones from maven central.

You can for example find the SHA1 sums on maven central and for the
windows web artifact This is the value:

https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/openjfx/javafx-web/13/javafx-web-13-win.jar.sha1

77019f6896cc76b421289c7666f692f758610e32

This matches the value from the binaries.

I suggest that you either remove the whole local repository or at least
the offending entries.

HTH

Matthias


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RE: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-15 Thread Eric Barboni

Hi folks,

Form completed and lazy consensus thread started in incubator. We are almost
there.

Regards

Eric


-Message d'origine-
De : Eric Barboni  
Envoyé : lundi 7 octobre 2019 11:29
À : 'dev' 
Objet : [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to
Apache NetBeans html4j

The vote is closed with a "few" but only +1 vote. 
Apache NetBeans community and his PMC is willing to accept dukescript
presenters.

Best Regards
Eric

Details: Hope "I catch 'Em all" tm

+1 Binding vote by apache id (20):
neilcsmith
geertjan
ehsavoie
ebakke
jtulach
javajuneau
junichi11
sreimers
thilina01
skygo
chrizzly
jag
timon
mklaehn
gholmer
mklaehn
ikost
pandaconstantin
tusharjoshi
johnmcdonnell

+1 Non binding vote (5)
Oliver rettig
Kai uwe pel
Christrin Oyarzun
Patrick Musembi
Jose Ch



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Re: NB 11.2 blockers?

2019-10-15 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi


Cleared them.

On 10/15/19 4:57 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

They're not blockers AFAIK.

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:12 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:


Hi All,

I've merged the final range of PRs into the release112 branch, and
beta3 is building (hopefully successfully!) as I type.

There are a few open blocker and critical issues.  A few of the
criticals are should be fixed in this beta, and I'll close once
tested.

Of the blockers, are either valid concerns, and if so do they merit
being blockers?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-3205
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-3225

I can't say I have any idea about whether the first one is a bug or a
configuration issue.  The second seems really a JDK bug, and not
something fixable - I also can't replicate that many menu items out of
the box- no issues with my version at that resolution.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

Source code is now here in our Apache NetBeans tools repo:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools/tree/master/pp3

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:10 PM Jiří Kovalský 
wrote:

> Dne 15. 10. 19 v 13:14 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:59 AM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:46, John Mc  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?
> >>>
> >>> What group is in charge of verifying the plugins?  the PMC - if so then
> >>> Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login.  If not then where is
> >> this
> >>> managed?
> >>
> >> Yes, absolutely, there needs to be integration with Apache LDAP system.
> >>
> >> Concern about Google SSO doesn't surprise me.  While not an answer as
> >> such, I wonder if sign in via GitHub account might be somewhat more
> >> useful - still maybe not fully accessible, but perhaps a way to also
> >> link across to Apache credentials if necessary?
> >>
> >> Again, I think this is something that would have been picked up
> >> earlier if development had been more focused here in the Apache
> >> community.
> >
> > This is what we're doing now. We needed to get a baseline implementation
> as
> > a starting point for discussion, which we have now.
>
> Exactly, as soon as the sources are in the repository everyone can
> contribute with their ideas and get the community approve it.
>
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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon


Dne 15. 10. 19 v 13:14 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:59 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:


On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:46, John Mc  wrote:


We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?

What group is in charge of verifying the plugins?  the PMC - if so then
Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login.  If not then where is

this

managed?


Yes, absolutely, there needs to be integration with Apache LDAP system.

Concern about Google SSO doesn't surprise me.  While not an answer as
such, I wonder if sign in via GitHub account might be somewhat more
useful - still maybe not fully accessible, but perhaps a way to also
link across to Apache credentials if necessary?

Again, I think this is something that would have been picked up
earlier if development had been more focused here in the Apache
community.


This is what we're doing now. We needed to get a baseline implementation as
a starting point for discussion, which we have now.


Exactly, as soon as the sources are in the repository everyone can 
contribute with their ideas and get the community approve it.


-Jirka

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Re: Switch plugin portal in NetBeans 11.2 to new one?

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:39 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> > shall we replace that with the new one,
>
> + 1 from me - and ideally before beta3 announcement if we can!
>
> > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/data/11.2/catalog.xml.gz
>
> The link must be https, which works.  However, the catalog file is
> still serving http links - if we can fix that ASAP let's switch for
> 11.2 links today.
>
> > Maybe this could be done in the event 11.2 beta3 will not be the final
> > release for some reason.
>
> ???  No IDE changes are required here.  We can do this if beta3 is final
> or not.
>

Sorry, I keep forgetting about this. :-) Thanks to your great solution.

Gj



>
> We can also switch for 11.0 and 11.1 whenever we're ready without
> changes in the IDE.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: Switch plugin portal in NetBeans 11.2 to new one?

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
> shall we replace that with the new one,

+ 1 from me - and ideally before beta3 announcement if we can!

> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/data/11.2/catalog.xml.gz

The link must be https, which works.  However, the catalog file is
still serving http links - if we can fix that ASAP let's switch for
11.2 links today.

> Maybe this could be done in the event 11.2 beta3 will not be the final
> release for some reason.

???  No IDE changes are required here.  We can do this if beta3 is final or not.

We can also switch for 11.0 and 11.1 whenever we're ready without
changes in the IDE.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:59 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:46, John Mc  wrote:
> >
> > We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?
> >
> > What group is in charge of verifying the plugins?  the PMC - if so then
> > Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login.  If not then where is
> this
> > managed?
>
> Yes, absolutely, there needs to be integration with Apache LDAP system.
>
> Concern about Google SSO doesn't surprise me.  While not an answer as
> such, I wonder if sign in via GitHub account might be somewhat more
> useful - still maybe not fully accessible, but perhaps a way to also
> link across to Apache credentials if necessary?
>
> Again, I think this is something that would have been picked up
> earlier if development had been more focused here in the Apache
> community.
>
>

This is what we're doing now. We needed to get a baseline implementation as
a starting point for discussion, which we have now.

Gj




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NB 11.2 blockers?

Hi All,

I've merged the final range of PRs into the release112 branch, and
beta3 is building (hopefully successfully!) as I type.

There are a few open blocker and critical issues.  A few of the
criticals are should be fixed in this beta, and I'll close once
tested.

Of the blockers, are either valid concerns, and if so do they merit
being blockers?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-3205
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-3225

I can't say I have any idea about whether the first one is a bug or a
configuration issue.  The second seems really a JDK bug, and not
something fixable - I also can't replicate that many menu items out of
the box- no issues with my version at that resolution.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Syntax highlighting question

Dear All
   I have developed a module (https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/netbeans-antlr) for 
antlr, it provides antlr grammar syntax highlight, but it is not perfect. I 
want to enhance it but problem is : antlr supports "embed action", which is in 
Java, so two languages in same file.

   To provide the best syntax highlight, i need to send those embed actions to 
"java lexer", this point has no problem to me. But Is there anyway merge those 
tokens (java-lexer) back to the one (antlr-lexer) which used by netbeans to 
provide syntax highlight?

Is there any way to provide syntax highlight but not using lexer? Let say i 
want to hight the second line from character 2-4 in red. Whatever the text is, 
i just want to highlight those positions, is it possible?

Thanks
>From Peter

Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:46, John Mc  wrote:
>
> We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?
>
> What group is in charge of verifying the plugins?  the PMC - if so then
> Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login.  If not then where is this
> managed?

Yes, absolutely, there needs to be integration with Apache LDAP system.

Concern about Google SSO doesn't surprise me.  While not an answer as
such, I wonder if sign in via GitHub account might be somewhat more
useful - still maybe not fully accessible, but perhaps a way to also
link across to Apache credentials if necessary?

Again, I think this is something that would have been picked up
earlier if development had been more focused here in the Apache
community.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

Dne 15. 10. 19 v 11:36 John Mc napsal(a):

We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?

Do you think that more NetBeans plugin developers have Apache accounts
than Google accounts?

What group is in charge of verifying the plugins? the PMC - if so the > Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login. If not then where

is this

managed?

No, PMC has nothing to do with that. Verification of plugins is in the
hands of a group of NetBeans community volunteers. If you want to join
the team, let me know but it represents a long term commitment to test
incoming NetBeans plugin against multiple different versions and then
casting your votes almost on a daily basis.

Would you be interested John?

-Jirka

Regards

John

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:34, Jiří Kovalský
wrote:

We believe that nowadays Google is most used SSO provider in the world.
Or do you know some other website where even more people would have
their accounts?

-Jirka

Dne 12. 10. 19 v 6:20 huang kai napsal(a):

That is cool!
My only concern is about Google SSO, it is not convenient for the users
in areas that google can not reach, China for example.
So is it a MUST? or it's optional?

On 2019/10/10 5:46, Jiří Kovalský wrote:

Hello NetBeans people,

if you have ever fine-tuned your NetBeans IDE with some
community-contributed plugin or you are a plugin developer yourself,
please read this e-mail carefully.

The last reason for netbeans.org domain existence is the NetBeans
Plugin Portal - our repository of NetBeans extensions. Given the
original infrastructure is no longer maintained by Oracle and in order
to avoid potential legal issues with hosting 3rd party binaries
licensed under Apache incompatible licenses we have decided for a
complete rewrite of the Plugin Portal website.

Today, we are happy to announce the result of our effort, the brand
new Plugin Portal version 3.0 [1] which is running on the same Apache
infrastructure which already hosts Synergy - the tests management tool
for NetCAT programs.

[1]

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_=DwIFBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=vRKjr59yOZlhH1wGpmOFIdzAuvSXZc-EXJyjrwpAtfQ=FVRANuhyYezj_s4IRteyoswQv7yq4s6zSWUgkZD9jAE=

The 3 most substantial changes if compared with Plugin Portal 2.0 are:

* Only plugins published in the Maven Central Repository can be
registered in the Plugin Portal 3.0.
* Only NBM or JAR file types are supported binary formats.
* Google SSO is used as authentication mechanism.

The concept of community controlled publishing of plugins on the
Plugin Portal Update Center remains unchanged i.e. if two verifiers
approve a plugin and nobody disapproves it, the plugin gets
automatically added to the module catalog for appropriate NetBeans
version.

Sounds good so far? Cool! The purpose of this message though is to
ask for cooperation. :) As you could have guessed we need to load the
new Plugin Portal with meaningful plugins so if you have developed a
NetBeans plugin, please publish it in the Maven Central and then share
it with others through the new Plugin Portal. And obviously sending us
any feedback on the registration process or Plugin Portal's new user
interface in general will be much appreciated! Bugs should be created
against "updatecenters - Pluginportal" component.

Finally, once the final polishing is made, we will open source the
codebase so that everyone can participate in improving the website.
And if you are curious, the credit for creating the new Plugin Portal
goes to Jan Pirek (jpirek). Hats off to you, Jan!

Thanks and long live the Plugin Portal 3.0!

Best regards,
-Jirka

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

Hi Junichi,

yes, Neil Smith has already reminded us about HTTPS protocol
earlier. Thanks for filing the ticket. It's on our radar.

Have a nice day,
-Jirka

Dne 14. 10. 19 v 12:50 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a):

Hi Jirka,

I came across a login problem a few days ago. So, I've submitted it to
the JIRA:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D3227=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=iIKbfJr9i3uo46SI-fR-OHEeyj9jU56vekJLgYuXVgc=pe34mWXpwvheFZdnY_Or3pcdDzJ6L9FSSTHOrZRnDm0=

Thanks,
Junichi

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:11 AM Jiří Kovalský wrote:

Hello NetBeans people,

if you have ever fine-tuned your NetBeans IDE with some
community-contributed plugin or you are a plugin developer yourself,
please read this e-mail carefully.

The last reason for netbeans.org domain existence is the NetBeans
Plugin Portal - our repository of NetBeans extensions. Given the
original infrastructure is no longer maintained by Oracle and in order
to avoid potential legal issues with hosting 3rd party binaries licensed
under Apache incompatible licenses we have decided for a complete
rewrite of the Plugin Portal website.

[1]
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=iIKbfJr9i3uo46SI-fR-OHEeyj9jU56vekJLgYuXVgc=7jCperDeFucOnVdWVnp3us41TzA3GRmYeckOikHQ5kM=

The 3 most substantial changes if compared with Plugin Portal 2.0 are:

Finally, once the final polishing is made, we will open source the
codebase so that everyone can participate in improving the website. And
if you are curious, the credit for creating the new Plugin Portal goes
to Jan Pirek (jpirek). Hats off to you, Jan!

Thanks and long live the Plugin Portal 3.0!

Best regards,
-Jirka

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

Hi Alessandro,

that's perfect. I have approved your plugin and also added my Go
votes so now you only need one more verification from some other
verifier and your plugin will show up on the Update Center(s). I will
talk to Geertjan in about 1.5 hour and ask him to add his Go vote too.

And many thanks! Your plugin is great!

-Jirka

Dne 14. 10. 19 v 9:49 Alessandro napsal(a):

Hi Jiri,
I managed to submit my first plugin this morning following the steps in
the Help section.

The plug-in is now listed as waiting approval, I have also requested
verification for a set of NB versions.

What are the next steps?

Regards,
Alex

Il giorno gio 10 ott 2019 alle ore 00:11 Jiří Kovalský <
jiri.koval...@oracle.com> ha scritto:

Hello NetBeans people,

if you have ever fine-tuned your NetBeans IDE with some
community-contributed plugin or you are a plugin developer yourself,
please read this e-mail carefully.

The last reason for netbeans.org domain existence is the NetBeans
Plugin Portal - our repository of NetBeans extensions. Given the
original infrastructure is no longer maintained by Oracle and in order
to avoid potential legal issues with hosting 3rd party binaries licensed
under Apache incompatible licenses we have decided for a complete
rewrite of the Plugin Portal website.

[1]
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=r2Pl4tAqfl2Fpue3mplTOSFb8KFLXurqgXTZVClkk7s=MwGXPH_8H_D5bcwkyWyt6T54TPgNB5F4KjTIBH6yvHs=

The 3 most substantial changes if compared with Plugin Portal 2.0 are:

Finally, once the final polishing is made, we will open source the
codebase so that everyone can participate in improving the website. And
if you are curious, the credit for creating the new Plugin Portal goes
to Jan Pirek (jpirek). Hats off to you, Jan!

Thanks and long live the Plugin Portal 3.0!

Best regards,
-Jirka

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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

2019-10-15 Thread John Mc

We should also allow for Apache accounts to login?

What group is in charge of verifying the plugins?  the PMC - if so then
Yes, Apache accounts should be allowed to login.  If not then where is this
managed?

Regards

John

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 10:34, Jiří Kovalský 
wrote:

> We believe that nowadays Google is most used SSO provider in the world.
> Or do you know some other website where even more people would have
> their accounts?
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 12. 10. 19 v 6:20 huang kai napsal(a):
> > That is cool!
> > My only concern is about Google SSO, it is not convenient for the users
> > in areas that google can not reach, China for example.
> > So is it a MUST? or it's optional?
> >
> > On 2019/10/10 5:46, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> >> Hello NetBeans people,
> >>
> >> if you have ever fine-tuned your NetBeans IDE with some
> >> community-contributed plugin or you are a plugin developer yourself,
> >> please read this e-mail carefully.
> >>
> >> The last reason for netbeans.org domain existence is the NetBeans
> >> Plugin Portal - our repository of NetBeans extensions. Given the
> >> original infrastructure is no longer maintained by Oracle and in order
> >> to avoid potential legal issues with hosting 3rd party binaries
> >> licensed under Apache incompatible licenses we have decided for a
> >> complete rewrite of the Plugin Portal website.
> >>
> >> Today, we are happy to announce the result of our effort, the brand
> >> new Plugin Portal version 3.0 [1] which is running on the same Apache
> >> infrastructure which already hosts Synergy - the tests management tool
> >> for NetCAT programs.
> >>
> >> [1]
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_=DwIFBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=vRKjr59yOZlhH1wGpmOFIdzAuvSXZc-EXJyjrwpAtfQ=FVRANuhyYezj_s4IRteyoswQv7yq4s6zSWUgkZD9jAE=
> >>
> >> The 3 most substantial changes if compared with Plugin Portal 2.0 are:
> >>
> >> * Only plugins published in the Maven Central Repository can be
> >> registered in the Plugin Portal 3.0.
> >> * Only NBM or JAR file types are supported binary formats.
> >> * Google SSO is used as authentication mechanism.
> >>
> >> The concept of community controlled publishing of plugins on the
> >> Plugin Portal Update Center remains unchanged i.e. if two verifiers
> >> approve a plugin and nobody disapproves it, the plugin gets
> >> automatically added to the module catalog for appropriate NetBeans
> >> version.
> >>
> >> Sounds good so far? Cool! The purpose of this message though is to
> >> ask for cooperation. :) As you could have guessed we need to load the
> >> new Plugin Portal with meaningful plugins so if you have developed a
> >> NetBeans plugin, please publish it in the Maven Central and then share
> >> it with others through the new Plugin Portal. And obviously sending us
> >> any feedback on the registration process or Plugin Portal's new user
> >> interface in general will be much appreciated! Bugs should be created
> >> against "updatecenters - Pluginportal" component.
> >>
> >> Finally, once the final polishing is made, we will open source the
> >> codebase so that everyone can participate in improving the website.
> >> And if you are curious, the credit for creating the new Plugin Portal
> >> goes to Jan Pirek (jpirek). Hats off to you, Jan!
> >>
> >> Thanks and long live the Plugin Portal 3.0!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> -Jirka
> >>
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Re: [news] Plugin Portal 3.0 on the horizon

We believe that nowadays Google is most used SSO provider in the world.
Or do you know some other website where even more people would have
their accounts?

-Jirka

Dne 12. 10. 19 v 6:20 huang kai napsal(a):

That is cool!
My only concern is about Google SSO, it is not convenient for the users
in areas that google can not reach, China for example.
So is it a MUST? or it's optional?

On 2019/10/10 5:46, Jiří Kovalský wrote:

Hello NetBeans people,

if you have ever fine-tuned your NetBeans IDE with some
community-contributed plugin or you are a plugin developer yourself,
please read this e-mail carefully.

[1]
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_=DwIFBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=vRKjr59yOZlhH1wGpmOFIdzAuvSXZc-EXJyjrwpAtfQ=FVRANuhyYezj_s4IRteyoswQv7yq4s6zSWUgkZD9jAE=

The 3 most substantial changes if compared with Plugin Portal 2.0 are:

Thanks and long live the Plugin Portal 3.0!

Best regards,
-Jirka

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Re: Cannot login on New Plugin Portal

That's awesome! Thanks a lot Dmitry. I have linked your article from our 
How to Sonatype Wiki page:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Upload+NetBeans+Modules+to+Maven+Central

-Jirka

Dne 14. 10. 19 v 19:40 Dmitry Avtonomov napsal(a):

If that's of interest, I've described my experience of publishing to
Central in detail here:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dmtavt.com_post_2017-2D01-2D25-2Dpublishing-2Dto-2Dmaven-2Dcentral_=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=DWPY7tK5z1RsuEC3I97L_-Cob98qgZPOEr5Z_sPX_84=REiyAlGkNT4pO2F2nWQ70wNEmi2hoAZRKSRfjjPBc_M=
There were some caveats with signing on Windows for me.
Feel free to copy/paste to some tutorial if needed.


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:


Hi Alex,

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 5:23 PM Alessandro  wrote:


Hi all,
   I just finished trying the new procedure for having a plugin available

on

the new Plugin Portal.

I successfully published the plugin on Maven Central (perhaps the biggest
step)



Congratulations.:-)

Did you document the process or can you remember it enough to provide some
notes -- sure there's official Maven documentation about how to do the
process, but what's your personal step by step approach that you
implemented and the stumbling blocks encountered?

Gj





now I am trying to log-in into the plugin portal to complete the
publishing process but after inserting my Google credentials the
"AddPlugin" button mentioned in the Help section is not available.

I was able to log-in last friday just to have a look so this looks like a
temporary server problem, could anyone have a look?

Regards,
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Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

Thanks Gj. UAT I mean user acceptance test.

Thanks
>From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited)


From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:24:47 PM
To: dev 
Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

I would recommend you don't do that, you deploy it to a new instance. I
don't know what UAT is. You can also simply install the NBM file, like any
other NBM file.

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:21 AM Peter Cheung  wrote:

> Dear Geertjan
> Yes, i debug my module in different instance. But I feel my module is
> quite stable now, so i want to do UAT for myself by installing it to my
> netbeans. So far i do "Install/Reload in Development IDE", then netbeans
> hangs, then i kill the process and restart it. It is fine to me now but
> just want to know how people do that.
> Thanks
> From Peter
> 
> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:16 PM
> To: dev 
> Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current
> computer
>
> Well, you're going to need to provide more info, if you want that fixed --
> log messages.
>
> Also, it is better to always run a module into a different instance of
> NetBeans, which you can also do by right-clicking the module and choosing
> that option.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:11 AM Peter Cheung 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys
> >When you developing modules, you must want to install it locally when
> > it reach a stable stage. How you do it? If i click "Install/Reload in
> > Development IDE", the netbeans will hangs, so i believe it is not the
> > recommended way.
> > Thanks
> > From Peter
> >
>

Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

I would recommend you don't do that, you deploy it to a new instance. I
don't know what UAT is. You can also simply install the NBM file, like any
other NBM file.

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:21 AM Peter Cheung  wrote:

> Dear Geertjan
> Yes, i debug my module in different instance. But I feel my module is
> quite stable now, so i want to do UAT for myself by installing it to my
> netbeans. So far i do "Install/Reload in Development IDE", then netbeans
> hangs, then i kill the process and restart it. It is fine to me now but
> just want to know how people do that.
> Thanks
> From Peter
> 
> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:16 PM
> To: dev 
> Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current
> computer
>
> Well, you're going to need to provide more info, if you want that fixed --
> log messages.
>
> Also, it is better to always run a module into a different instance of
> NetBeans, which you can also do by right-clicking the module and choosing
> that option.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:11 AM Peter Cheung 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys
> >When you developing modules, you must want to install it locally when
> > it reach a stable stage. How you do it? If i click "Install/Reload in
> > Development IDE", the netbeans will hangs, so i believe it is not the
> > recommended way.
> > Thanks
> > From Peter
> >
>

Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

Dear Geertjan
Yes, i debug my module in different instance. But I feel my module is quite 
stable now, so i want to do UAT for myself by installing it to my netbeans. So 
far i do "Install/Reload in Development IDE", then netbeans hangs, then i kill 
the process and restart it. It is fine to me now but just want to know how 
people do that.
Thanks
>From Peter

From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:16 PM
To: dev 
Subject: Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

Well, you're going to need to provide more info, if you want that fixed --
log messages.

Also, it is better to always run a module into a different instance of
NetBeans, which you can also do by right-clicking the module and choosing
that option.

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:11 AM Peter Cheung  wrote:

> Hi Guys
>When you developing modules, you must want to install it locally when
> it reach a stable stage. How you do it? If i click "Install/Reload in
> Development IDE", the netbeans will hangs, so i believe it is not the
> recommended way.
> Thanks
> From Peter
>

Re: What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

Well, you're going to need to provide more info, if you want that fixed --
log messages.

Also, it is better to always run a module into a different instance of
NetBeans, which you can also do by right-clicking the module and choosing
that option.

Gj

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:11 AM Peter Cheung  wrote:

> Hi Guys
>When you developing modules, you must want to install it locally when
> it reach a stable stage. How you do it? If i click "Install/Reload in
> Development IDE", the netbeans will hangs, so i believe it is not the
> recommended way.
> Thanks
> From Peter
>

What is the correct way to install the modules in current computer

Hi Guys
   When you developing modules, you must want to install it locally when it 
reach a stable stage. How you do it? If i click "Install/Reload in Development 
IDE", the netbeans will hangs, so i believe it is not the recommended way.
Thanks
>From Peter

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