[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer

2021-11-30 Thread John Mc
The vote on Apache NetBeans 12.6 Mac OSX Installer is now closed with 4+1
binding
vote and 4+1 community members vote. No 0 or -1 votes.

+1 bindings vote
John Kostaras (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=ikost)
Geertjan Wielenga (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=geertjan)
Anton Epple (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=monacotoni)
John McDonnell (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=johnmcdonnell)

+1 community vote
David Green
Chris Luff
Scott Palmer
Carl Mosca

Regards

John


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer

2021-11-30 Thread John Mc
Thanks Geertjan and Toni,

Vote Closed.


On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 14:16, toni.ep...@eppleton.de 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Tested on my MacBook Pro (16", 2021) Monterey,
>
> Thanks
>
> Toni
>
> Von: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Datum: Dienstag, 30. November 2021 um 14:18
> An: dev 
> Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer
> Apologies, I've used it and it works great, should have voted earlier.
>
> +1 (binding)
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:02 PM John Mc  wrote:
>
> > Any PMC members who use macOS?
> >
> > Can I ask if you haven't already can you download this installer and
> verify
> > it works please?  We need 1 more binding vote to have 3 +1 binding votes
> in
> > order for this vote to pass.  We already have mine and John Kostaras(
> > https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=ikost).
> >
> > It would be good to successfully close this vote, so it doesn't hold up
> the
> > 12.6 release.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 14:56, John Mc  wrote:
> >
> > > + 1 (binding)
> > >
> > > We still need one more +1 binding vote, before I can close this.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >> macOS 12.0.1
> > >> Amazon Corretto JDK 17
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 2:44 AM John Kostaras 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > +1
> > >> > MacOSX 10.13.6
> > >> > Oracle JDK 17
> > >> >
> > >> > JK
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Στις Παρ, 26 Νοε 2021, 6:39 π.μ. ο χρήστης Scott Palmer <
> > >> > swpal...@gmail.com>
> > >> > έγραψε:
> > >> >
> > >> > > +1
> > >> > > macOS 12.0.1 intel
> > >> > > Zulu “full” JDK 17.0.1
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Scott
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > On Nov 24, 2021, at 10:30 AM, John Mc  >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX installer.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Primary voting artefact:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > KEYS file:
> > >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > PGP signature file:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > SHA512 checksum file:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release126/14/
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > NOTE: macOS versions prior to 10.14.4 require the Swift 5
> Runtime
> > >> to be
> > >> > > > installed to launch Apache NetBeans
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1,
> 0,
> > >> and
> > >> > -1
> > >> > > as
> > >> > > > usual.
> > >> > > > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache
> NetBeans
> > >> PMC
> > >> > > > member.
> > >> > > > Apache NetBeans-12.6 mac OSX Installer will be released if and
> > when
> > >> > this
> > >> > > > vote passes.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > John
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > -
> > >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >> > >
> > >> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > >> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carl J. Mosca
> > >>
> > >
> >
>


Re: AW: AW: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-30 Thread Michael Bien
the no-dialog option and also the choice to make FlatLaf the default are 
based on the assumption that there are "good defaults" -> most should be 
hopefully happy with FlatLAF as default. Those (few) who would like to 
customize, can, and are guided with one click to the right options 
dialog - even when this means to have to restart once. NB was always an 
IDE where you didn't have to configure much to be productive (I agree 
with Jaroslav there).


Having a good default is also nice from an issue tracker perspective. 
There are problems with the GTK LAF on some linux versions (I don't know 
what is used on KDE), there seem to be also problems with the windows 
LAF, esp on win 11. FlatLAF avoids all of that and decouples it from the 
JDK version too as side effect (NB still has to support 8 unfortunately).


It is better to have a user see a working IDE first before making the 
choice to switch to a different LAF, which might be broken.


my personal opinion: i would not mind an initial configuration dialog. 
But i do also see the benefits of not having one - i am OK with both 
scenarios, leaning more to the no-dialog option. I will probably never 
see it anyway since I import my configuration ;)


there is always NB 14

-michael

On 30.11.21 10:17, Christian Lenz wrote:

➢ 3) if user changes settings it will require restart yes but the UI for
➢ that is already there

It is not about that the UI for this is already there or not, it is about I 
need to restart NetBeans which I don’t want. If we do this as soon as possible, 
it feels better and I don’t need to restart netBeans I guess, so that it can 
hook into the Startup process.

- No Startup Dialog
We already have one „Import Settings“ so why not reuse it? This dialog just 
comes up, if you have a previous Version installed. If not, it will not appear. 
Now that needs to be changed.

As I said, we have multiple feelings about this and we already had a vote for 
„made flat laf default“. I can live with that somehow and I gave my opinion. I 
would prefer another vote for where we see default Settings or customize it at 
the beginning. Or we can change this later, I’m fine with that.

Maybe it will be possible for me to create a 3rd Party plugin where I hook into 
the process of NetBeans startup before the UI is there and I can make this 
happen within a plugin to customize the IDE from the very first start.

Von: Michael Bien
Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2021 16:54
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org; Christian Lenz
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

On 29.11.21 16:28, Christian Lenz wrote:

I don’t get it atm. What is the preferred solution now? Open the options when 
NetBeans is still open or what? That means that I need to restart NetBeans 
again. Probably I got it wrong.

1) set LightLAF as default which should hopefully work for many as
discussed here

2) notify user somehow that the default can be changed. e.g via
convenient link in welcome page or via notification bubble or both (this
would link to the options)

3) if user changes settings it will require restart yes but the UI for
that is already there


=>

   - no startup dialog

   - no duplicated UI

   - potential to be further optimized in future by letting it probe to
make a more educated decision whether to automatically set the dark
theme instead of light



Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2021 15:36
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 15:20, Eirik Bakke  wrote:

There are hundreds of options that can be customized, and there is real 
value-add in _not_ requiring the user (especially new users) to know about or 
touch them.

We also don't want a situation where we end up having two different user 
interfaces for setting the same options. A user that changed the LAF from a 
startup dialog or installer would then have to find and use a _different_ user 
interface (the Options dialog) to change it again later.

This is a very good point!

This thread came partly from issues with people finding (the right)
options, and a default that doesn't match what most of us are doing.
But for common options that people might want to customize, then a
better welcome page would beat a dialog.  Because rather than setting
the option, we could just open the options dialog in the right place
to show them where to set it.

eg. big button on welcome page with text "Switch to dark or system
look and feel" opens the look and feel tab in the options.

We could have defaults that match what most of us use, and 6-8 quick
links for settings that a lot of us change?  And keep the current
direct links to install plugins or activate features, which could look
a little more like you're meant to press them!

Best wishes,

Neil

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AW: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer

2021-11-30 Thread toni.ep...@eppleton.de
+1 (binding)

Tested on my MacBook Pro (16", 2021) Monterey,

Thanks

Toni

Von: Geertjan Wielenga 
Datum: Dienstag, 30. November 2021 um 14:18
An: dev 
Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer
Apologies, I've used it and it works great, should have voted earlier.

+1 (binding)

Gj

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:02 PM John Mc  wrote:

> Any PMC members who use macOS?
>
> Can I ask if you haven't already can you download this installer and verify
> it works please?  We need 1 more binding vote to have 3 +1 binding votes in
> order for this vote to pass.  We already have mine and John Kostaras(
> https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=ikost).
>
> It would be good to successfully close this vote, so it doesn't hold up the
> 12.6 release.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 14:56, John Mc  wrote:
>
> > + 1 (binding)
> >
> > We still need one more +1 binding vote, before I can close this.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> macOS 12.0.1
> >> Amazon Corretto JDK 17
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 2:44 AM John Kostaras 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1
> >> > MacOSX 10.13.6
> >> > Oracle JDK 17
> >> >
> >> > JK
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Στις Παρ, 26 Νοε 2021, 6:39 π.μ. ο χρήστης Scott Palmer <
> >> > swpal...@gmail.com>
> >> > έγραψε:
> >> >
> >> > > +1
> >> > > macOS 12.0.1 intel
> >> > > Zulu “full” JDK 17.0.1
> >> > >
> >> > > Scott
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Nov 24, 2021, at 10:30 AM, John Mc 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX installer.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Primary voting artefact:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg
> >> > > >
> >> > > > KEYS file:
> >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> >> > > >
> >> > > > PGP signature file:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> >> > > >
> >> > > > SHA512 checksum file:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release126/14/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > NOTE: macOS versions prior to 10.14.4 require the Swift 5 Runtime
> >> to be
> >> > > > installed to launch Apache NetBeans
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0,
> >> and
> >> > -1
> >> > > as
> >> > > > usual.
> >> > > > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
> >> PMC
> >> > > > member.
> >> > > > Apache NetBeans-12.6 mac OSX Installer will be released if and
> when
> >> > this
> >> > > > vote passes.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards
> >> > > >
> >> > > > John
> >> > >
> >> > >
> -
> >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >> > >
> >> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carl J. Mosca
> >>
> >
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer

2021-11-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Apologies, I've used it and it works great, should have voted earlier.

+1 (binding)

Gj

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:02 PM John Mc  wrote:

> Any PMC members who use macOS?
>
> Can I ask if you haven't already can you download this installer and verify
> it works please?  We need 1 more binding vote to have 3 +1 binding votes in
> order for this vote to pass.  We already have mine and John Kostaras(
> https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=ikost).
>
> It would be good to successfully close this vote, so it doesn't hold up the
> 12.6 release.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 14:56, John Mc  wrote:
>
> > + 1 (binding)
> >
> > We still need one more +1 binding vote, before I can close this.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> macOS 12.0.1
> >> Amazon Corretto JDK 17
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 2:44 AM John Kostaras 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1
> >> > MacOSX 10.13.6
> >> > Oracle JDK 17
> >> >
> >> > JK
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Στις Παρ, 26 Νοε 2021, 6:39 π.μ. ο χρήστης Scott Palmer <
> >> > swpal...@gmail.com>
> >> > έγραψε:
> >> >
> >> > > +1
> >> > > macOS 12.0.1 intel
> >> > > Zulu “full” JDK 17.0.1
> >> > >
> >> > > Scott
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Nov 24, 2021, at 10:30 AM, John Mc 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX installer.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Primary voting artefact:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg
> >> > > >
> >> > > > KEYS file:
> >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> >> > > >
> >> > > > PGP signature file:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> >> > > >
> >> > > > SHA512 checksum file:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release126/14/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > NOTE: macOS versions prior to 10.14.4 require the Swift 5 Runtime
> >> to be
> >> > > > installed to launch Apache NetBeans
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0,
> >> and
> >> > -1
> >> > > as
> >> > > > usual.
> >> > > > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
> >> PMC
> >> > > > member.
> >> > > > Apache NetBeans-12.6 mac OSX Installer will be released if and
> when
> >> > this
> >> > > > vote passes.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards
> >> > > >
> >> > > > John
> >> > >
> >> > >
> -
> >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >> > >
> >> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carl J. Mosca
> >>
> >
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer

2021-11-30 Thread John Mc
Any PMC members who use macOS?

Can I ask if you haven't already can you download this installer and verify
it works please?  We need 1 more binding vote to have 3 +1 binding votes in
order for this vote to pass.  We already have mine and John Kostaras(
https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=ikost).

It would be good to successfully close this vote, so it doesn't hold up the
12.6 release.

Regards

John

On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 14:56, John Mc  wrote:

> + 1 (binding)
>
> We still need one more +1 binding vote, before I can close this.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Carl Mosca  wrote:
>
>> +1
>> macOS 12.0.1
>> Amazon Corretto JDK 17
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 2:44 AM John Kostaras 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > +1
>> > MacOSX 10.13.6
>> > Oracle JDK 17
>> >
>> > JK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Στις Παρ, 26 Νοε 2021, 6:39 π.μ. ο χρήστης Scott Palmer <
>> > swpal...@gmail.com>
>> > έγραψε:
>> >
>> > > +1
>> > > macOS 12.0.1 intel
>> > > Zulu “full” JDK 17.0.1
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > > > On Nov 24, 2021, at 10:30 AM, John Mc 
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX installer.
>> > > >
>> > > > Primary voting artefact:
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg
>> > > >
>> > > > KEYS file:
>> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
>> > > >
>> > > > PGP signature file:
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
>> > > >
>> > > > SHA512 checksum file:
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
>> > > >
>> > > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release126/14/
>> > > >
>> > > > NOTE: macOS versions prior to 10.14.4 require the Swift 5 Runtime
>> to be
>> > > > installed to launch Apache NetBeans
>> > > >
>> > > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0,
>> and
>> > -1
>> > > as
>> > > > usual.
>> > > > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
>> PMC
>> > > > member.
>> > > > Apache NetBeans-12.6 mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
>> > this
>> > > > vote passes.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > John
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
>> > >
>> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl J. Mosca
>>
>


AW: AW: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-30 Thread Christian Lenz
➢ 3) if user changes settings it will require restart yes but the UI for 
➢ that is already there

It is not about that the UI for this is already there or not, it is about I 
need to restart NetBeans which I don’t want. If we do this as soon as possible, 
it feels better and I don’t need to restart netBeans I guess, so that it can 
hook into the Startup process.

- No Startup Dialog
We already have one „Import Settings“ so why not reuse it? This dialog just 
comes up, if you have a previous Version installed. If not, it will not appear. 
Now that needs to be changed.

As I said, we have multiple feelings about this and we already had a vote for 
„made flat laf default“. I can live with that somehow and I gave my opinion. I 
would prefer another vote for where we see default Settings or customize it at 
the beginning. Or we can change this later, I’m fine with that.

Maybe it will be possible for me to create a 3rd Party plugin where I hook into 
the process of NetBeans startup before the UI is there and I can make this 
happen within a plugin to customize the IDE from the very first start.

Von: Michael Bien
Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2021 16:54
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org; Christian Lenz
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

On 29.11.21 16:28, Christian Lenz wrote:
> I don’t get it atm. What is the preferred solution now? Open the options when 
> NetBeans is still open or what? That means that I need to restart NetBeans 
> again. Probably I got it wrong.

1) set LightLAF as default which should hopefully work for many as 
discussed here

2) notify user somehow that the default can be changed. e.g via 
convenient link in welcome page or via notification bubble or both (this 
would link to the options)

3) if user changes settings it will require restart yes but the UI for 
that is already there


=>

  - no startup dialog

  - no duplicated UI

  - potential to be further optimized in future by letting it probe to 
make a more educated decision whether to automatically set the dark 
theme instead of light


>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2021 15:36
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?
>
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 15:20, Eirik Bakke  wrote:
>> There are hundreds of options that can be customized, and there is real 
>> value-add in _not_ requiring the user (especially new users) to know about 
>> or touch them.
>>
>> We also don't want a situation where we end up having two different user 
>> interfaces for setting the same options. A user that changed the LAF from a 
>> startup dialog or installer would then have to find and use a _different_ 
>> user interface (the Options dialog) to change it again later.
> This is a very good point!
>
> This thread came partly from issues with people finding (the right)
> options, and a default that doesn't match what most of us are doing.
> But for common options that people might want to customize, then a
> better welcome page would beat a dialog.  Because rather than setting
> the option, we could just open the options dialog in the right place
> to show them where to set it.
>
> eg. big button on welcome page with text "Switch to dark or system
> look and feel" opens the look and feel tab in the options.
>
> We could have defaults that match what most of us use, and 6-8 quick
> links for settings that a lot of us change?  And keep the current
> direct links to install plugins or activate features, which could look
> a little more like you're meant to press them!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 Windows installer

2021-11-30 Thread Eric Barboni
The vote on Apache NetBeans 12.6 Installer is now closed with 3+1 binding
vote and 2+1 community members vote. No 0 or -1 votes.

+1 bindings vote
Junichi Yamamoto
John McDonnell
Eric Barboni

+1 community vote
Kai Uwe Pel
Tomáš Procházka

Thanks to all 

Best Regards
Eric


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