Re: Features/enhancements/fixes for 12.3?

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ok, I'm sorry.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, 10:08 pm Brad Walker,  wrote:

> Here ya' go..
>
> NETBEANS-4458 -enable use of generics
> GitHub Pull Request #2194 
>
> NETBEANS-5185 - cleanup imports in the Enterprise Web.Monitor module
> GitHub Pull Request #2608 
>
> NETBEANS-5187 - cleanup Vector raw type warnings..
> GitHub Pull Request #2611 
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > Great, can you provide some of the pull requests for that, so there's
> > something to point to?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:24 PM Brad Walker  wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Geertjan,
> > >
> > > That's a very big list of new things happening with Netbeans. Great job
> > > everyone.
> > >
> > > I do think it's important to also point out under the Misc. section
> > > something like "General code cleanup".. This is what I would put
> cleaning
> > > up warnings like I do among other things. The reason is this shows we
> are
> > > "keeping our house clean".. 8-)
> > >
> > > When I read things like this, it shows attention to detail, at least to
> > > me..
> > >
> > > Otherwise, great job everyone!
> > >
> > > -brad w.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:15 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > We're pretty close to being able to announce the 12.3 release (which
> > > > officially when the vote tally was done, i.e., March 3).
> > > >
> > > > One item incomplete right now is the list of features/enhancements, I
> > > > published what I found on the 12.3 Wiki page here:
> > > >
> > > > http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb123/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Is anything missing, should VS Code items be added, and which ones
> > > > specifically, any specific Java content to be added -- several Java
> > areas
> > > > were fixed/enhanced as a knock on effect of work done for the VS Code
> > > > extension, can some of these be identified -- I'd be happy to add
> them
> > in
> > > > the above.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Features/enhancements/fixes for 12.3?

[Brain Rebooting]

Sir,

With due respect, will we get better React support and react native
support? These two's are highly demanding framework as you all know. Even
many people skip using netbeans, when need to use these framework.

Though I saw recently that, one of my feature request, "sql autocompletion"
is now on the development phase. Its an extremely good news for me.

Also I saw another good lackings. That is, I can't directly debug
Javascript code inside netbeans. For that, I have to use browser debugger.
It would be more productive if netbeans has its own debugger and debugging
Javascript code inside netbeans.

Whatever I said, maybe you all know that, these are extremely demanding
features according to current technology trend.

I wish, one day (very soon) Apache Netbeans has these all above mentioned
features and millions of new developers started using netbeans in
production.

Samiul Alom Sium
Associate of science in computer science,
University of the people

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, 9:24 pm Brad Walker,  wrote:

> Hey Geertjan,
>
> That's a very big list of new things happening with Netbeans. Great job
> everyone.
>
> I do think it's important to also point out under the Misc. section
> something like "General code cleanup".. This is what I would put cleaning
> up warnings like I do among other things. The reason is this shows we are
> "keeping our house clean".. 8-)
>
> When I read things like this, it shows attention to detail, at least to
> me..
>
> Otherwise, great job everyone!
>
> -brad w.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:15 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We're pretty close to being able to announce the 12.3 release (which
> > officially when the vote tally was done, i.e., March 3).
> >
> > One item incomplete right now is the list of features/enhancements, I
> > published what I found on the 12.3 Wiki page here:
> >
> > http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb123/index.html
> >
> > Is anything missing, should VS Code items be added, and which ones
> > specifically, any specific Java content to be added -- several Java areas
> > were fixed/enhanced as a knock on effect of work done for the VS Code
> > extension, can some of these be identified -- I'd be happy to add them in
> > the above.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
>

Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development

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Thanks for replying.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021, 8:05 am Jaroslav Tulach, 
wrote:

> > Is there any hope of getting better react support and
>
> A month or two ago I had announced my project "React for Java" in this
> discussion forum. My post received no replies. Probably not that many
> active
> NetBeans IDE developers develop webapps. Anyway, if you find the topic of
> using
> Java and web and React interesting, here is a link to the tutorial I have
> created:
>
> http://xelfi.cz/react4jdemo/ttt1.html
>
> In spite of the silence on this mailing listl, there seems to be a growing
> interest in running Java in modern browsers (e.g. without Java plugin) and
> I
> am dedicated to make the Apache NetBeans `@JavaScriptBody` annotation[1]
> central piece of such effort.
>
> Best regards,
> Jaroslav Tulach
>
> NetBeans Platform Architect
> Bck2Brwsr Java bytecode to JavaScript transpiler creator
> Apache HTML/Java API[1] inventor
> OracleLabs - the home of JVMs/compilers/transpilers - member
> Apache NetBeans - dedicated contributor
>
> [1]
> https://bits.netbeans.org/html+java/1.7/net/java/html/js/package-summary.html
>
>
>
>
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>
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>

React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development

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Hi all,

Recently I learned javafx and after learning it, I thought that I would use
gluon mobile framework to build cross platform mobile apps. But I just saw
their pricing plan for individual developers, which is $499. I just got
astonished. Though they have a free license, which is not for commercial
use. I don't see any reason to spend this amount of money using such a
average tech. Instead, there are numerous open source mobile app solutions
available there. Like, React Native, Flutter and so on. Though I searched
about Cordova, but its webview is like a joke and performance is too not
satisfying. In that sense, as an open source IDE, being Apache Netbeans,
can I/we get support for react native/flutter? Which are true market leader
and true performant framework for mobile. I don't see any option to use
netbeans for using at least react native IDE.
At this moment, I feel little bit depressed and frustrated.

Is there any hope of getting better react support and at least react native
support in netbeans IDE?

Even the text editors like, sublime/atom/vs-code too capable of, for using
react native.

Samiul Alom Sium
Associate of science in computer science,
University of the people, USA

Re: Autocompletion support for SQL editor

[Brain Rebooting]

I connected my Java program with mysql database, It shows connected, but
still there's no autocompletion support there.
Actually many developers or students of computer science has moderate to
little typing speed. That's why its pretty time consuming to write even 100
lines of SQL query.


On Sun, 3 Jan 2021, 6:03 am Eric Bresie,  wrote:

> Might want to check on the Open Netbeans SQL Issues
> <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20text%20~%20%22SQL%22
> >
> to
> see if any of those meet your need or those labeled like with SQL Editor
> label
> <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22db%20-%20SQL%20Editor%22
> >
>
> I would suspect "NETBEANS-188 Please add support for code completion while
> typing" might be the one in question.
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 8:34 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Samuil,
> >
> > I'd like to kindly ask you to stop trolling different threads with your
> > feature request for "Autocompletion support for SQL editor"!
> > If you feel the urge to express your needs, please create a separate
> email
> > thread or just post a reply on this one I've created for you.
> >
> > Just to ensure you we have heard your "voice" and we do know, that you
> > wish to have an autocompletion feature in the SQL editor. You shall
> accept
> > though that people might have other priorities and desires than you.
> >
> > Thank you, for your understanding!
> >
> > --
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [VOTE] Release 1.7.1 of NetBeans HTML/Java API

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Hi everyone,

This Year, I would have two hopes from Apache NetBeans.

First one is, get Autocompletion support for SQL editor
and second one is, get better React support. 

Are there any possibilities for these, happening this year???

On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, 5:30 pm Anton Epple,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> happy new year everyone. I hope it’s going to be a great year for all of
> you and for Apache NetBeans.
>
>
>
> Wouldn’t it be nice to start the new year with a new release ☺? I’d like
> to initialize voting for a bug fix release of html4j (Version 1.7.1).
>
>
>
> The sources of this release are available at:
>
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-html4j
>
>
>
> This is the tag in github:
>
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/tree/release-1.7.1
>
>
>
> The staged Maven artefacts are at:
>
>
>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1079/
>
>
>
>
>
> Please cast your vote during next 72h.
>
>
>
> Please help by verifying:
>
>
>
> ## checksums, signatures, etc.
>
>
>
> It’s the first time I’m signing those, so please help ensure I didn’t
> screw up.
>
>
>
> ## if it builds
>
>
>
> I used "mvn package -DskipTests" and the compilation should succeed on
> JDK11, JDK15
>
>
>
> ## if the tests pass
>
>
>
> Copying this from the last release as it still is true:
>
>
>
> Use "mvn package". They may not - especially the newly donated modules are
>
> very sensitive to surrounding environment. Getting them run on all
>
> important platforms may take some time.
>
>
>
> If you want to report your findings, then please include the version of
>
> operating system, version of JDK, version of the browser, etc. You may also
>
> want to run them individually. E.g. "mvn -f browser test" or "mvn -f webkit
>
> test".
>
>
>
> Best Regards and happy voting
>
>
>
> Toni Epple
>
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache NetBeans 12.2 Retrospective

[Brain Rebooting]

I didn't see any autocompletion for sql editor .
Please kindly do it within LTS version 13. Its a kind request.

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 11:45 am Laszlo Kishalmi, 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As version 12.2 got out, it's probably a good time to look back on the
> release process, while the memories are fresh, and check what can we
> learn from that. Please add your feedback, raise concerns, add topics to
> be discussed.
>
> What went well:
>
>   - Well, the release is out, we almost made that in our projected
> timeframe. (One of our fastest releases)
>
>   - It seems managing the master, delivery and release branches worked
> well without headache or too much overhead. I'd thank the contributors
> to play well with the rules and supporting my requests. It is about 40+
> PR got merged into master while we were still working on the release
> stabilization.
>
> - It was good to see a few first time contributors, and also the
> increased activity around the PR processing.
>
>
> What could be improved:
>
> - Well, the release speed is still not there where we imagined. Three
> release candidates and two started votes are too much.
> Partially due to my shortsightedness on the importance of Mac OS, BigSur
> issue. I'm sorry for that.
>
> - Early feedback! Big Sur issue again. We have a quite a good number of
> Mac OS users. Fight for yourselves! I can be convinced, it might be not
> easy but can happen. So instead of voting 0 (saying meh),  reason!
>
> - We need to add an API change review round even before branching for
> the release. The round we had during this release convinced me that it
> is required. I waited for that for Gradle 6.7, but actually that was
> useless and other API exposure were finding hard time to fix their
> issues while we were in beta phase.
>
> What needs to be discussed:
>
> These topics are loosely related to this release, and please open a new
> thread when discussing these, but these are just piling up in me:
>
> - We still do not have a definitive answer, what do we want from an LTS
> release (or do we want it all). Still I'll kick a round for 12.0u2 soon.
>
> - We still have not decided how the 12.3 and 13.0 would relate to each
> other. (as the other side of the LTS topic)
>
> - Our love and hate relationship to nb-javac needs to be resolved. We
> suggest people to go without it, then we suggest people to try that.
> Also with the current release we see an increased amount of NPE-s and
> parsing errors. If we would like to have it around, maybe we need to
> able to patch it, even if outside Apache. But at the moment even me the
> latest RM do not know what to think about that.
>
> --
>
>Laszlo Kishalmi
>
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 12.2 Released

[Brain Rebooting]

My problem has been solved. Thank you.

By the way, before releasing Apache Netbeans 13, I have a kind request
(with many other people). Please add autocompletion support for sql editor.



On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 12:51 pm Brain Rebooting, 
wrote:

> I can't install new stable version 12.2 in my laptop, which is based on
> Ubuntu 20.04 . Whenever I try to install it, it shows,
>
> Unable to install "Apache Netbeans ":
> snap "netbeans" requires classic confinement
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 12:35 pm Patrick Musembi, 
> wrote:
>
>> Congrats and thanks to all involved.
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 09:18, Brain Rebooting 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Congratulations The Apache Netbeans Teams for such an amazing open
>> source
>> > products.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 11:48 am Laszlo Kishalmi, 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans
>> > > 12.2 was released on December 5th 2020 *.  Apache NetBeans is a full
>> IDE
>> > > for Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript, HTML5 and more, including some
>> > > support for Groovy and (new) C/C++.
>> > >
>> > > Apache NetBeans 12.2 is the second quarterly feature update in the
>> > > NetBeans 12 cycle.  The LTS release of the current cycle is Apache
>> > > NetBeans 12.0. The 12.2 release has not been as heavily tested as the
>> > > LTS release. Use 12.2 to access the latest features and to provide
>> > > feedback for the next LTS release, scheduled for mid-2021.
>> > >
>> > > New & noteworthy features of the 12.2 release:
>> > >
>> > > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/index.html
>> > >
>> > > Downloads:
>> > >
>> > > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/nb122.html
>> > >
>> > > Feel free to share the good news!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks everyone, and best wishes,
>> > >
>> > > Laszlo Kishalmi
>> > > Release Manager for Apache NetBeans 12.2
>> > > on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
>> > >
>> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 12.2 Released

[Brain Rebooting]

I can't install new stable version 12.2 in my laptop, which is based on
Ubuntu 20.04 . Whenever I try to install it, it shows,

Unable to install "Apache Netbeans ":
snap "netbeans" requires classic confinement

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 12:35 pm Patrick Musembi, 
wrote:

> Congrats and thanks to all involved.
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 09:18, Brain Rebooting 
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations The Apache Netbeans Teams for such an amazing open source
> > products.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 11:48 am Laszlo Kishalmi, 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans
> > > 12.2 was released on December 5th 2020 *.  Apache NetBeans is a full
> IDE
> > > for Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript, HTML5 and more, including some
> > > support for Groovy and (new) C/C++.
> > >
> > > Apache NetBeans 12.2 is the second quarterly feature update in the
> > > NetBeans 12 cycle.  The LTS release of the current cycle is Apache
> > > NetBeans 12.0. The 12.2 release has not been as heavily tested as the
> > > LTS release. Use 12.2 to access the latest features and to provide
> > > feedback for the next LTS release, scheduled for mid-2021.
> > >
> > > New & noteworthy features of the 12.2 release:
> > >
> > > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/index.html
> > >
> > > Downloads:
> > >
> > > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/nb122.html
> > >
> > > Feel free to share the good news!
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone, and best wishes,
> > >
> > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> > > Release Manager for Apache NetBeans 12.2
> > > on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans 12.2 Released

[Brain Rebooting]

Congratulations The Apache Netbeans Teams for such an amazing open source
products.


On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 11:48 am Laszlo Kishalmi,  wrote:

> The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce that Apache NetBeans
> 12.2 was released on December 5th 2020 *.  Apache NetBeans is a full IDE
> for Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript, HTML5 and more, including some
> support for Groovy and (new) C/C++.
>
> Apache NetBeans 12.2 is the second quarterly feature update in the
> NetBeans 12 cycle.  The LTS release of the current cycle is Apache
> NetBeans 12.0. The 12.2 release has not been as heavily tested as the
> LTS release. Use 12.2 to access the latest features and to provide
> feedback for the next LTS release, scheduled for mid-2021.
>
> New & noteworthy features of the 12.2 release:
>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/index.html
>
> Downloads:
>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb122/nb122.html
>
> Feel free to share the good news!
>
> Thanks everyone, and best wishes,
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
> Release Manager for Apache NetBeans 12.2
> on behalf of Apache NetBeans PMC
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
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>
>
>
>

Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words

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Debugger, profiler, testing tools, version control tools, container
technology like docker, server deployment tools, cloud related tools,
continuous integration related tools, by default or integrated webkit
browser and so on. Means , End to End development with netbeans, is a kind
of title you may use in your feature page in your website. Even netbeans
has most of them. So it would be more exciting and interesting when you
refer all the features. Maybe many people don't know that, now netbeans
support almost end to end software development in one place. I can tell
you, after came to know about intellij and eclipse,  still I use nerbeans.
Because,  after downloading each version (since netbeans 10), I saw what
modules it included. I saw it included almost everything or more things I
need in one life time. But most people don't do that. That's why I
suggesting to refer all the features in your website exactly. It will
surely create a huge change for future fate of netbeans.

Samiul Alom Sium
Computer science student at University of the People,  USA

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:44 pm Brain Rebooting, 
wrote:

> I have a suggestion (I don't know should I do it or not). But, you people
> can change your website content style and refer what specific technology it
> supports. Like, netbeans now support angular, react, node, express,
> spring, spring web MVC, Spring Boot, Gluon, Jakarta EE, MySql, Postgresql,
> Oracle, Php and numerous php based framework and many things. If you
> specify each technology in your website, like the way intellij do. I think
> it then looks great and huge number of new people would attracted to it.
> When more and more people came to know all this and started using Netbeans,
> hopefully Netbeans will then get more contributors and it will fill up the
> missing pieces that it needs to be more perfect  ❤.
>
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:39 pm Brain Rebooting, 
> wrote:
>
>> But from my little mind, what I understand that, Apache Netbeans is the
>> only true open source IDE. Because,  Eclipse is belongs to IBM and they
>> funded it occasionally or they have a budget. Jetbrians Community edition
>> IDEs like intellij Community or pycharm community are just a pseudo open
>> source IDE, to attract people to their commercial products. I don't believe
>> in and considered Microsoft and their visual studio as a true open source
>> IDE. They have a price tag too. Then Netbeans is the only remaining IDE,
>> which is now under official Big boss of open source company "Apache". So
>> this is the true and real open source IDE, that must be evolved far better
>> and wider than ever. Im future, I will try my best to contribute into my
>> favorite IDE (Apache Netbeans).
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:33 pm Brain Rebooting, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I realizes how it feels for you @lenz. I myself felt that, if there were
>>> autocompletion support for netbeans sql editor,  if react native support
>>> for netbeans, if there was a java decompiler for netbeans and so on. But
>>> who will do that?
>>>
>>> Now I am just learning and have ambition, one day, if no one did
>>> whatever I need,  I will do it by myself. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:11 pm Geertjan Wielenga,
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's actually a lot of people contributing to NetBeans, and most of
>>>> them
>>>> are not from Oracle:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/graphs/contributors
>>>>
>>>> The majority of contributors simply contribute. They don't discuss, to
>>>> death or otherwise. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:08 PM Christian Lenz 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > And nevertheless we avoid people contribute to NetBeans by discussing
>>>> > everything to death. And also we as apache need a plan, a vision etc.
>>>> for
>>>> > sure a lot of people have different thoughts and to add it here it is
>>>> our
>>>> > responsibility for NetBeans to come together to discuss topics, big
>>>> > pictures and find people coming together as a group to help making
>>>> this
>>>> > done. At the moment there is just the little oracle Group helping for
>>>> the
>>>> > JDK stuff. What are the board meeings for? Is this where we should
>>>> discuss
>>>> > such topics and the way we want to go?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga
>>>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2020 12:02
>>>> > An: dev
>>>> > Betreff: Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words
>>>> >
>>>> > I
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words

[Brain Rebooting]

I have a suggestion (I don't know should I do it or not). But, you people
can change your website content style and refer what specific technology it
supports. Like, netbeans now support angular, react, node, express,
spring, spring web MVC, Spring Boot, Gluon, Jakarta EE, MySql, Postgresql,
Oracle, Php and numerous php based framework and many things. If you
specify each technology in your website, like the way intellij do. I think
it then looks great and huge number of new people would attracted to it.
When more and more people came to know all this and started using Netbeans,
hopefully Netbeans will then get more contributors and it will fill up the
missing pieces that it needs to be more perfect  ❤.

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:39 pm Brain Rebooting, 
wrote:

> But from my little mind, what I understand that, Apache Netbeans is the
> only true open source IDE. Because,  Eclipse is belongs to IBM and they
> funded it occasionally or they have a budget. Jetbrians Community edition
> IDEs like intellij Community or pycharm community are just a pseudo open
> source IDE, to attract people to their commercial products. I don't believe
> in and considered Microsoft and their visual studio as a true open source
> IDE. They have a price tag too. Then Netbeans is the only remaining IDE,
> which is now under official Big boss of open source company "Apache". So
> this is the true and real open source IDE, that must be evolved far better
> and wider than ever. Im future, I will try my best to contribute into my
> favorite IDE (Apache Netbeans).
>
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:33 pm Brain Rebooting, 
> wrote:
>
>> I realizes how it feels for you @lenz. I myself felt that, if there were
>> autocompletion support for netbeans sql editor,  if react native support
>> for netbeans, if there was a java decompiler for netbeans and so on. But
>> who will do that?
>>
>> Now I am just learning and have ambition, one day, if no one did whatever
>> I need,  I will do it by myself. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:11 pm Geertjan Wielenga,
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> There's actually a lot of people contributing to NetBeans, and most of
>>> them
>>> are not from Oracle:
>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/graphs/contributors
>>>
>>> The majority of contributors simply contribute. They don't discuss, to
>>> death or otherwise. :-)
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:08 PM Christian Lenz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > And nevertheless we avoid people contribute to NetBeans by discussing
>>> > everything to death. And also we as apache need a plan, a vision etc.
>>> for
>>> > sure a lot of people have different thoughts and to add it here it is
>>> our
>>> > responsibility for NetBeans to come together to discuss topics, big
>>> > pictures and find people coming together as a group to help making this
>>> > done. At the moment there is just the little oracle Group helping for
>>> the
>>> > JDK stuff. What are the board meeings for? Is this where we should
>>> discuss
>>> > such topics and the way we want to go?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga
>>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2020 12:02
>>> > An: dev
>>> > Betreff: Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words
>>> >
>>> > I
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words

[Brain Rebooting]

But from my little mind, what I understand that, Apache Netbeans is the
only true open source IDE. Because,  Eclipse is belongs to IBM and they
funded it occasionally or they have a budget. Jetbrians Community edition
IDEs like intellij Community or pycharm community are just a pseudo open
source IDE, to attract people to their commercial products. I don't believe
in and considered Microsoft and their visual studio as a true open source
IDE. They have a price tag too. Then Netbeans is the only remaining IDE,
which is now under official Big boss of open source company "Apache". So
this is the true and real open source IDE, that must be evolved far better
and wider than ever. Im future, I will try my best to contribute into my
favorite IDE (Apache Netbeans).

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:33 pm Brain Rebooting, 
wrote:

> I realizes how it feels for you @lenz. I myself felt that, if there were
> autocompletion support for netbeans sql editor,  if react native support
> for netbeans, if there was a java decompiler for netbeans and so on. But
> who will do that?
>
> Now I am just learning and have ambition, one day, if no one did whatever
> I need,  I will do it by myself. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:11 pm Geertjan Wielenga,
>  wrote:
>
>> There's actually a lot of people contributing to NetBeans, and most of
>> them
>> are not from Oracle:
>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/graphs/contributors
>>
>> The majority of contributors simply contribute. They don't discuss, to
>> death or otherwise. :-)
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:08 PM Christian Lenz 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > And nevertheless we avoid people contribute to NetBeans by discussing
>> > everything to death. And also we as apache need a plan, a vision etc.
>> for
>> > sure a lot of people have different thoughts and to add it here it is
>> our
>> > responsibility for NetBeans to come together to discuss topics, big
>> > pictures and find people coming together as a group to help making this
>> > done. At the moment there is just the little oracle Group helping for
>> the
>> > JDK stuff. What are the board meeings for? Is this where we should
>> discuss
>> > such topics and the way we want to go?
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga
>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2020 12:02
>> > An: dev
>> > Betreff: Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words
>> >
>> > I
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words

[Brain Rebooting]

I realizes how it feels for you @lenz. I myself felt that, if there were
autocompletion support for netbeans sql editor,  if react native support
for netbeans, if there was a java decompiler for netbeans and so on. But
who will do that?

Now I am just learning and have ambition, one day, if no one did whatever I
need,  I will do it by myself. 





On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 5:11 pm Geertjan Wielenga,
 wrote:

> There's actually a lot of people contributing to NetBeans, and most of them
> are not from Oracle:
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/graphs/contributors
>
> The majority of contributors simply contribute. They don't discuss, to
> death or otherwise. :-)
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:08 PM Christian Lenz 
> wrote:
>
> > And nevertheless we avoid people contribute to NetBeans by discussing
> > everything to death. And also we as apache need a plan, a vision etc. for
> > sure a lot of people have different thoughts and to add it here it is our
> > responsibility for NetBeans to come together to discuss topics, big
> > pictures and find people coming together as a group to help making this
> > done. At the moment there is just the little oracle Group helping for the
> > JDK stuff. What are the board meeings for? Is this where we should
> discuss
> > such topics and the way we want to go?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2020 12:02
> > An: dev
> > Betreff: Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words
> >
> > I
> >
> >
>

Re: VSNetBeans, future of NetBeans and personal words

[Brain Rebooting]

It is a good article, if used in that way. But who will do everything. For
that purpose, you need a dedicated group of people. Which is now not
possible for open source project like netbeans. But still, it has the
chance to be, one of the greatest one. It has almost everything to do
Development in java and Javascript. Just needed to add some plugin support
for frameworks and extra features. That list shouldn't be so long. But, at
least 3 to 4 people from different programming language background should
provide good amount of time. Who can work with those framework list. It
should be done by those developers who are working for building framework.
But netbeans should do something else, to attract them and feel them that,
their framework should have a plugin for netbeans. Then it will happen by
default.

Samiul Alom Sium
Computer science student at University of the People, USA

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 3:38 pm Geertjan Wielenga,
 wrote:

> Yes, the NetBeans project is a lot more than NetBeans itself. :-)
>
> Welcome to the Apache world, where the organizations that work on a project
> do whatever they find important.
>
> I think it's great that the Java editor and other Java related tools are
> going to be used in VS Code, just like so many other parts of NetBeans are
> used in all kinds of other tools too.
>
> Here's more info about this project:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Extension+for+Visual+Studio+Code
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:27 AM Christian Lenz 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > To all the LSP devs here and to the devs of the VSNetBeans plugin for VS
> > Code, how will NetBeans get a benefit from the VS Code extension and the
> > work of the LSP Client or implementation? Or is it just to give some
> stuff
> > to another IDE as a support?
> >
> > What is the purpose of extending VS Code with NetBeans stuff instead of
> > making NetBeans better or maybe more feature rich to be comparable to
> other
> > IDEs/Editors? IMHO it is just trying to catch people to come to Netbeans
> > for using Java, which again NetBeans is not only Java anymore for years.
> >
> > There are no innovations from NetBeans for years. Nothing new under
> > Oracle, nothing innovative under Apache where we can say: „Yes this is
> > coming from NetBeans“ and not: „Yes VS Code or IntelliJ can do this and
> > after years, NetBeans now also can handle this“.
> >
> > Back in the days, I have a .NET Background and after using VS and
> > switching to a Web context (Angular.js, Angular, TypeScript, Vue, etc.) I
> > was searching for an IDE where also jQuery was working out of the box. So
> > you know when jQuery had his time, long long time ago. I found eclipse,
> but
> > eclipse was soo buggy right from the beginning. There was a jquery
> > Plugin that I tried and it crashed the whole IDE from a fresh
> Installation,
> > after installing the jQuery plugin. Exceptions everywhere. So then I
> asked
> > a colleague whether he knows a better IDE for that and he recommended me
> > NetBeans (It was somewhen in 2011). And I loved NetBeans. It was so
> stable,
> > the UX was good, the UI was okish, but back in the days, I didn’t expect
> > that much as from today on. So I saw HTML, JS etc and the plans to add
> Git
> > and HTML5 and JS again, because it was removed earlier etc. So I
> researched
> > a lot About NetBeans and the features and also I didn’t know anything
> About
> > IntelliJ or PHPStorm or whatever, until someone told me about it in
> 2013. I
> > figured out some features that NetBeans also can handle but the list gets
> > longer and longer what NetBeans couldn’t handle.
> >
> > Then the move to Apache. It was like any other product from Oracle: We
> > don’t get any money out of it, so give it to the community. It went okish
> > at the beginning but  I think it doesn’t get that nice as expected. Yes I
> > know that I’m also Apache and everyone of you/us are Apache and also we
> are
> > just users and need features that we don’t need to develop by our own. Or
> > we Need a specific plan. I think we don’t have one. It is just that there
> > is a team in india, working for Oracle trying to make NetBeans just
> > compatible for the next JDK. Really? This is it? Why not letting more
> > people work for Oracle there and make better plans etc.
> >
> > Also my list of stuff, that I want to contribute is so Long and 90% of my
> > stuff I didn’t get any help. Maybe I tried it in a different way via
> slack
> > and not via Mailing list. Sry that I want to use Tools that are modern
> and
> > better to use nowadays than old mailing lists. I also sent mails directly
> > to the developers. I just got a Little: try this and that. It is not
> > working, after 2 or 3 mails no commitment anymore. So I’m really tired of
> > that. I have so many ideas and so much energy to help and it gets lost of
> > thousends of discussions about do we really need this feature? It is to
> > difficult to 

Re: Spring Support

[Brain Rebooting]

Can we get a React Native plugin? The last thing we need maybe. All know
that it's hugely popular. Though Netbeans already support Android apps
development, we need another product that is hugely popular and capable of
cross platform mobile apps development. Is there any kind hearted people
who can do this for Netbeans?



On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Well, it depends on the plugin author Alex. He is an active member of
> the community.
>
> If he thinks it fits, then I think there would be no objection to
> integrate his plugins into NetBeans mainline.
>
> Alex?
>
> On 6/9/20 4:20 PM, Christopher Gusenbauer wrote:
> > Hi! Since you already integrated the Dark LAF, maybe you could integrate
> > another great user project as well?
> > http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/67888/nb-springboot
> > IntelliJ and Eclipse both offer better support for Spring and Netbeans
> for
> > me personally has always been cooler, but the lack of out of the box
> Spring
> > really hurts since its so widely used
> >
>
> -
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>
>
>
>

Re: Announce 12.0 release?

[Brain Rebooting]

How can I install it in Ubuntu 18.04 using "Ubuntu Software"? I already
searched it in "Ubuntu Software", but I can see only netbeans 10 and
netbeans 11.3 .



On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:58 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> It is already on Snap in the latest/alpha channel. With the announcement
> it is going to be promoted to the latest/stable.
>
> Since this is an LTS release a separate 12.0/stable track/channel will
> be available as well.
>
> On 6/9/20 5:57 AM, Brain Rebooting wrote:
> > Why not snap store for linux?
> >
> > Samiul alom sium
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:09 PM John Mc  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Eric
> >>
> >> I think it has mirrored as I could download it from them earlier
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, 13:07 Eric Barboni,  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I see it mirrored in fact but maybe only from France.
> >>> Maybe ok to announce,
> >>>
> >>> Will update the notification in the update center.
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Message d'origine-
> >>> De : Geertjan Wielenga 
> >>> Envoyé : mardi 9 juin 2020 13:21
> >>> À : dev 
> >>> Objet : Re: Announce 12.0 release?
> >>>
> >>> Great. Just say when and we'll start promoting it.
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:20 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> We should wait a bit. Tomorrow or late today (in +8h) Because macos
> >>>> installer may not be fully mirrored.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Eric
> >>>>
> >>>> -Message d'origine-
> >>>> De : Geertjan Wielenga  Envoyé : mardi 9 juin
> >>>> 2020 13:08 À : dev  Objet : Announce 12.0
> >>>> release?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Are we ready to announce the 12.0 release?
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Twitter
> >>>> -- Facebook
> >>>> -- Users mailing list
> >>>> -- Announce mailing list
> >>>> -- Apache NetBeans Blog
> >>>>
> >>>> Any other places?
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
> -
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>
>
>
>

Re: Announce 12.0 release?

[Brain Rebooting]

Why not snap store for linux?

Samiul alom sium

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:09 PM John Mc  wrote:

> Hi Eric
>
> I think it has mirrored as I could download it from them earlier
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, 13:07 Eric Barboni,  wrote:
>
> > I see it mirrored in fact but maybe only from France.
> > Maybe ok to announce,
> >
> > Will update the notification in the update center.
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Geertjan Wielenga 
> > Envoyé : mardi 9 juin 2020 13:21
> > À : dev 
> > Objet : Re: Announce 12.0 release?
> >
> > Great. Just say when and we'll start promoting it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:20 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > We should wait a bit. Tomorrow or late today (in +8h) Because macos
> > > installer may not be fully mirrored.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > -Message d'origine-
> > > De : Geertjan Wielenga  Envoyé : mardi 9 juin
> > > 2020 13:08 À : dev  Objet : Announce 12.0
> > > release?
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Are we ready to announce the 12.0 release?
> > >
> > > -- Twitter
> > > -- Facebook
> > > -- Users mailing list
> > > -- Announce mailing list
> > > -- Apache NetBeans Blog
> > >
> > > Any other places?
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Dedication message for NetBeans 12

[Brain Rebooting]

+1

It feels that, its not an emotionless software. Its more than a part of
life and life for many people who use it to livelihood.

Rest in peace...

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 2:52 PM Christian Lenz  wrote:

> +1 Go for it ☹
>
>
>
> Von: Eric Barboni
> Gesendet: Montag, 6. April 2020 10:50
> An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Betreff: RE: Dedication message for NetBeans 12
>
> Hi,
>  Sad news. Good idea to have a dedication.
>
> +1
>
> And stay safe
>
> Regards
> Eric
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Patrick Musembi 
> Envoyé : samedi 4 avril 2020 15:08
> À : dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Objet : Re: Dedication message for NetBeans 12
>
> +1
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 15:05 Carl Mosca  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 6:54 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
> >  > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:54 PM Sven Reimers 
> > > wrote:
> > > > ...I would suggest to put in a dedication "in memoriam Carl Quinn"
> > > > for
> > > the
> > > > 12.0 Apache NetBeans release... what do you think?..
> > >
> > > +1, great idea!
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
> > > 
> > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
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> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > Regards,
> > Carl
> >
>
>
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>

Auto completion support for Database languages.

[Brain Rebooting]

Dear Apache Netbeans,

Is there any possibility that Netbeans will support autocompletion for
database language like IntelliJ Idea in the near future?

Also, I'm pretty much satisfied with the normal autocompletion speed and
quality for java in Netbeans. It feels that autocompletion quality has been
increased compared to earlier versions.

I'm thinking about if Netbeans somehow attach autocompletion support for
database languages, then it will be a wow moment for most of the developer
and also there wouldn't be any reason for any developer to run IntelliJ
Idea.

Take my greetings.

Samiul Alom Sium
Associate of Science in computer science student at
University of the people, California, USA