AW: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-12 Thread Christian Lenz
The stuff, that already was integrated into the core is just a simple Syntax 
highlighting, nothing more.

Von: John Kostaras
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Oktober 2021 21:07
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

$ find . -name *otlin*
./.git/logs/refs/remotes/origin/kotlin-donation
./java/kotlin.editor
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/Kotlin.kt.template
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/Kotlin.tmLanguage.json
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_file.png
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_file.svg
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_f...@2x.png

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 14:45, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> There is also this older Kotlin plugin, which looks like it may have been
> the initial work by JetBrains.
>
> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
>
> This one is at least in a modular format, whereas the other repository
> includes all of NetBeans.  I think that the basic Kotlin support was merged
> into NetBeans already, so maybe that is the code from this repository.
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> Apress Author <https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=juneau>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:15 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:
>
> > So what are the options for this?  Bring it in as a “cluster”, merge it,
> > break it out and manage as an independent (and publish to the new plug-in
> > center) plug-in?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:02 PM Christian Lenz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There is this branch
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation but last
> changes
> > > were in Dezember last year.
> > >
> > > Von: Eric Bresie
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
> > > An: Netbeans Developer List
> > > Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]
> > >
> > > I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).
> > >
> > > As I understand it, there is some basic functionality
> > (highlight/coloring,
> > > editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed
> by
> > > JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to
> the
> > > Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was
> > accepted
> > > but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.
> > >
> > > References
> > > (1)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > (2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
> > > (3)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > (4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
> > > (5)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> > > > IntelliJ.
> > > >
> > > > --emi
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas <
> > owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows
> one
> > > to
> > > > use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I
> have
> > > had
> > > > to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this
> > new
> > > > project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I
> am
> > > > pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans
> > and
> > > > discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle
> (and
> > > > perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to
> > > IntelliJ
> > > > perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making
> the
> > > > decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I
> > do
> > > > not 

AW: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-12 Thread Christian Lenz
The branch „kotlin-donation“ is already based on the Kotlin-netbeans repo, see 
https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137 and 
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398


Von: John Kostaras
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Oktober 2021 21:07
An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

$ find . -name *otlin*
./.git/logs/refs/remotes/origin/kotlin-donation
./java/kotlin.editor
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/Kotlin.kt.template
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/Kotlin.tmLanguage.json
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_file.png
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_file.svg
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_f...@2x.png

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 14:45, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> There is also this older Kotlin plugin, which looks like it may have been
> the initial work by JetBrains.
>
> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
>
> This one is at least in a modular format, whereas the other repository
> includes all of NetBeans.  I think that the basic Kotlin support was merged
> into NetBeans already, so maybe that is the code from this repository.
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> Apress Author <https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=juneau>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:15 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:
>
> > So what are the options for this?  Bring it in as a “cluster”, merge it,
> > break it out and manage as an independent (and publish to the new plug-in
> > center) plug-in?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:02 PM Christian Lenz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There is this branch
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation but last
> changes
> > > were in Dezember last year.
> > >
> > > Von: Eric Bresie
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
> > > An: Netbeans Developer List
> > > Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]
> > >
> > > I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).
> > >
> > > As I understand it, there is some basic functionality
> > (highlight/coloring,
> > > editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed
> by
> > > JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to
> the
> > > Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was
> > accepted
> > > but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.
> > >
> > > References
> > > (1)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > (2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
> > > (3)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > (4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
> > > (5)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> > > > IntelliJ.
> > > >
> > > > --emi
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas <
> > owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows
> one
> > > to
> > > > use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I
> have
> > > had
> > > > to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this
> > new
> > > > project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I
> am
> > > > pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans
> > and
> > > > discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle
> (and
> > > > perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to
> > > IntelliJ
> > > > perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making
> the
> > > > decision on what is an appropriat

Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-11 Thread John Kostaras
$ find . -name *otlin*
./.git/logs/refs/remotes/origin/kotlin-donation
./java/kotlin.editor
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/Kotlin.kt.template
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/Kotlin.tmLanguage.json
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_file.png
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_file.svg
./java/kotlin.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/kotlin/editor/kotlin_f...@2x.png

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 14:45, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> There is also this older Kotlin plugin, which looks like it may have been
> the initial work by JetBrains.
>
> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
>
> This one is at least in a modular format, whereas the other repository
> includes all of NetBeans.  I think that the basic Kotlin support was merged
> into NetBeans already, so maybe that is the code from this repository.
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> Apress Author <https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=juneau>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:15 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:
>
> > So what are the options for this?  Bring it in as a “cluster”, merge it,
> > break it out and manage as an independent (and publish to the new plug-in
> > center) plug-in?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:02 PM Christian Lenz 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There is this branch
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation but last
> changes
> > > were in Dezember last year.
> > >
> > > Von: Eric Bresie
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
> > > An: Netbeans Developer List
> > > Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]
> > >
> > > I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).
> > >
> > > As I understand it, there is some basic functionality
> > (highlight/coloring,
> > > editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed
> by
> > > JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to
> the
> > > Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was
> > accepted
> > > but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.
> > >
> > > References
> > > (1)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > (2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
> > > (3)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > (4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
> > > (5)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> > > > IntelliJ.
> > > >
> > > > --emi
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas <
> > owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows
> one
> > > to
> > > > use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I
> have
> > > had
> > > > to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this
> > new
> > > > project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I
> am
> > > > pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans
> > and
> > > > discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle
> (and
> > > > perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to
> > > IntelliJ
> > > > perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making
> the
> > > > decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I
> > do
> > > > not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java
> > in
> > > a
> > > > way simila

Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-11 Thread Josh Juneau
There is also this older Kotlin plugin, which looks like it may have been
the initial work by JetBrains.

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans

This one is at least in a modular format, whereas the other repository
includes all of NetBeans.  I think that the basic Kotlin support was merged
into NetBeans already, so maybe that is the code from this repository.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
Apress Author <https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=juneau>



On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:15 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> So what are the options for this?  Bring it in as a “cluster”, merge it,
> break it out and manage as an independent (and publish to the new plug-in
> center) plug-in?
>
> Eric
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:02 PM Christian Lenz 
> wrote:
>
> > There is this branch
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation but last changes
> > were in Dezember last year.
> >
> > Von: Eric Bresie
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
> > An: Netbeans Developer List
> > Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]
> >
> > I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).
> >
> > As I understand it, there is some basic functionality
> (highlight/coloring,
> > editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
> > JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
> > Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was
> accepted
> > but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.
> >
> > References
> > (1)
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > (2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
> > (3)
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > (4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
> > (5)
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Eric Bresie
> > ebre...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> > > IntelliJ.
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas <
> owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one
> > to
> > > use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have
> > had
> > > to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this
> new
> > > project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> > > pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans
> and
> > > discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> > > perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to
> > IntelliJ
> > > perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> > > decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I
> do
> > > not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> > > >
> > > > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java
> in
> > a
> > > way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what
> > build
> > > tool I choose to use.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating
> > Kotlin
> > > support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> > > happen with that?
> > > >>
> > > >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language
> implementation”?
> > > >>
> > > >> Eric
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas <
> > owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> > > reassert.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas <
> owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java
> > or
> > > stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's
> face
> > > off.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Eric Bresie
> > > >> ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>


Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie
So what are the options for this?  Bring it in as a “cluster”, merge it,
break it out and manage as an independent (and publish to the new plug-in
center) plug-in?

Eric

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:02 PM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> There is this branch
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation but last changes
> were in Dezember last year.
>
> Von: Eric Bresie
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
> An: Netbeans Developer List
> Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]
>
> I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).
>
> As I understand it, there is some basic functionality (highlight/coloring,
> editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
> JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
> Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was accepted
> but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.
>
> References
> (1)
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> (2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
> (3)
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> (4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
> (5)
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold 
> wrote:
>
> > Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> > IntelliJ.
> >
> > --emi
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one
> to
> > use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have
> had
> > to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this new
> > project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> > pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans and
> > discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> > perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to
> IntelliJ
> > perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> > decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I do
> > not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> > >
> > > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java in
> a
> > way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what
> build
> > tool I choose to use.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating
> Kotlin
> > support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> > happen with that?
> > >>
> > >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language implementation”?
> > >>
> > >> Eric
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas <
> owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> > reassert.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas  >
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java
> or
> > stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's face
> > off.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Eric Bresie
> > >> ebre...@gmail.com
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
>
> --
Eric Bresie
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AW: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-10 Thread Christian Lenz
There is this branch https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation 
but last changes were in Dezember last year.

Von: Eric Bresie
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
An: Netbeans Developer List
Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).

As I understand it, there is some basic functionality (highlight/coloring,
editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was accepted
but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.

References
(1)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
(3)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
(5)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold  wrote:

> Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> IntelliJ.
>
> --emi
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one to
> use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have had
> to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this new
> project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans and
> discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to IntelliJ
> perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I do
> not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> >
> > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java in a
> way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what build
> tool I choose to use.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> >>
> >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating Kotlin
> support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> happen with that?
> >>
> >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language implementation”?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> reassert.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java or
> stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's face
> off.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric Bresie
> >> ebre...@gmail.com
>
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Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie
I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).

As I understand it, there is some basic functionality (highlight/coloring,
editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was accepted
but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.

References
(1)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
(3)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
(5)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold  wrote:

> Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> IntelliJ.
>
> --emi
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one to
> use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have had
> to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this new
> project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans and
> discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to IntelliJ
> perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I do
> not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> >
> > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java in a
> way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what build
> tool I choose to use.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> >>
> >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating Kotlin
> support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> happen with that?
> >>
> >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language implementation”?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> reassert.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> 
>  Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java or
> stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's face
> off.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric Bresie
> >> ebre...@gmail.com
>
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