Re: plugin verification and new NB releases
On 6/15/22 12:42 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 19:04 Ernie Rael, wrote: We effectively had automatic extension from 12.0 to 12.6, because we used the same plugins URL Look like there's still some kind of automatic extension going on. 14 has a 14 url, but there plenty of stuff in .../plugins/14/catalog.xml.gz, although the plugin portal doesn't know about 14. Truly magical. Not really! It appears my temporary redirect at feature freeze has not been able to be updated yet? So not magic, just good luck. (Written on a poster held high: "stop the plugin drain") https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess#L31 Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: plugin verification and new NB releases
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 19:04 Ernie Rael, wrote: > > We effectively had automatic extension from 12.0 to 12.6, because we > > used the same plugins URL > > Look like there's still some kind of automatic extension going on. 14 > has a 14 url, but there plenty of stuff in > .../plugins/14/catalog.xml.gz, although the plugin portal doesn't know > about 14. Truly magical. > Not really! It appears my temporary redirect at feature freeze has not been able to be updated yet? https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess#L31 Neil
Re: plugin verification and new NB releases
We effectively had automatic extension from 12.0 to 12.6, because we used the same plugins URL Look like there's still some kind of automatic extension going on. 14 has a 14 url, but there plenty of stuff in .../plugins/14/catalog.xml.gz, although the plugin portal doesn't know about 14. Truly magical. Does the plugin portal exists outside of regular apache project handling? On 6/15/22 2:45 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 at 03:07, Ernie Rael wrote: Might be good to add a version button for a new release early in the process, maybe during RC. +1 (again) - from a releases perspective. In fact, possibly from point of previous release, as we need to point the plugin centre URL for dev builds at something, and testing earlier might make sense. I'd guess it's very rare that a plugin stops working. If an automatic extension to the next release, or something like that, isn't acceptable, +1 (again) - I think we should work on a remove on report basis after initial verification. We effectively had automatic extension from 12.0 to 12.6, because we used the same plugins URL. A couple of plugins broke in that time too. There is no greater change from 12.3 to 12.4 than there is from 13 to 14! So, why not *stay* with automatic extension? Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: plugin verification and new NB releases
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 at 03:07, Ernie Rael wrote: > Might be good to add a version button for a new release early in the > process, maybe during RC. +1 (again) - from a releases perspective. In fact, possibly from point of previous release, as we need to point the plugin centre URL for dev builds at something, and testing earlier might make sense. > I'd guess it's very rare that a plugin stops working. If an automatic > extension to the next release, or something like that, isn't acceptable, +1 (again) - I think we should work on a remove on report basis after initial verification. We effectively had automatic extension from 12.0 to 12.6, because we used the same plugins URL. A couple of plugins broke in that time too. There is no greater change from 12.3 to 12.4 than there is from 13 to 14! So, why not *stay* with automatic extension? Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: plugin verification and new NB releases
On 6/14/22 10:23 AM, Michael Bien wrote: Hello, I forgot to request verification of my little plugin for NB 13. Then i was wondering - I bet some don't even know that they have to request verification after every NetBeans release, otherwise it won't appear in the plugin manager. Thanks for mentioning this. I usually forget. Thought I'd add a request for NB-14 while I was thinking about it; but alas, new version's not there yet. Might be good to add a version button for a new release early in the process, maybe during RC. Searching through the plugin portal showed some useful plugins which weren't verified since NB 12. Could this be automated? Lets say there is a successful verification for NetBeans N-1, it would automatically request verification for N on release. I'd guess it's very rare that a plugin stops working. If an automatic extension to the next release, or something like that, isn't acceptable, then the automated request seems useful. There was some discussion around this in the "Postmortem 12.5" thread, when the new versioning scheme came about https://lists.apache.org/thread/fzojvpgh6kboh99qfpc22x66wx7jccf9 and there is some discussion about how to specify plugin compatibility, including a suggestion from Jaroslav Tulach, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5064 It's a shame some plugins are almost lost, I still keep the license changer around. This would increase workload for the verifiers I suppose. There is probably also the argument to be made that the plugin maintainers should care about their plugins and not forget things like I do. Maybe an automated mail to the maintainers as notification to re-request verification? I'd find that useful. -ernie best regards, michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Re: Plugin verification
Hi Eric, my answers below. Regards *--* *Alessandro Falappa* Il giorno sab 5 dic 2020 alle ore 17:38 Eric Bresie ha scritto: > So does that still mean a new version of the plug-in can or cannot be used > / verified against an old version of Netbeans? > No, an old plugin version can be verified against an old version of NB. > In other words, should a given plugin version show which versions of > Netbeans it’s compatible against? > This is up to the plugin developer. For example if my plugin version X+1 would support Gradle projects I could verify it against NB12 but leave version X verified against NB11. > Eric Bresie > ebre...@gmail.com (mailto:ebre...@gmail.com) >
Re: Re: Plugin verification
So does that still mean a new version of the plug-in can or cannot be used / verified against an old version of Netbeans? In other words, should a given plugin version show which versions of Netbeans it’s compatible against? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com (mailto:ebre...@gmail.com) > On December 4, 2020 at 4:42:53 AM CST, Alessandro (mailto:alex.fala...@gmail.com)> wrote: > Hi all, > Junichi's suggestion is correct and my reasoning is wrong. > > At any given time there is a single verified plugin version for one > NetBeans version. > This sound reasonable and allows for example to have a former version of a > plugin verified for an older version of NetBeans while a newer version of a > plugin verified for a newer version of NetBeans. > > Verification requested and under way, If you are a plugin verifier please > approve! > > Regards, > *--* > *Alessandro Falappa* > > > Il giorno ven 4 dic 2020 alle ore 11:36 Alessandro (mailto:alex.fala...@gmail.com)> > ha scritto: > > > Hi Junichi, > > this means a plugin cannot be verified for multiple NetBeans versions? > > > > If I understood it correctly after verification the plugin, or its new > > version thereof, "appears" on the UpdateCenter, if I remove the > > verification it "disappears" from the UpdateCenter. This would mean that as > > soon as a plugin is verified for the latest version of NetBeans it > > disappears for the users of previous versions. Sounds like an important > > limitation to me. > > > > Anyway I will try your suggestion. > > > > Thanks for helping, > > Regards > > > > *--* > > *Alessandro Falappa* > > > > > > Il giorno ven 4 dic 2020 alle ore 11:25 Junichi Yamamoto < > > junichi0...@gmail.com (mailto:junichi0...@gmail.com)> ha scritto: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Please try to drop verification for the old version. Then, try to go > > > to the new version page. > > > > > > HTH, > > > Junichi > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:16 PM Alessandro > > (mailto:alex.fala...@gmail.com)> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I > > > > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is > > > > available from the Update Center. > > > > > > > > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was > > > not > > > > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request > > > > verification of the last version. > > > > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot > > > plugin > > > > then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled for NB > > > > 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall correctly > > > > there were buttons to request verification against selected NB versions. > > > > > > > > Could someone shed some light on this? > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > *--* > > > > *Alessandro Falappa* > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > (mailto:dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org) > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > (mailto:dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org) > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Plugin verification
Hi all, Junichi's suggestion is correct and my reasoning is wrong. At any given time there is a single verified plugin version for one NetBeans version. This sound reasonable and allows for example to have a former version of a plugin verified for an older version of NetBeans while a newer version of a plugin verified for a newer version of NetBeans. Verification requested and under way, If you are a plugin verifier please approve! Regards, *--* *Alessandro Falappa* Il giorno ven 4 dic 2020 alle ore 11:36 Alessandro ha scritto: > Hi Junichi, > this means a plugin cannot be verified for multiple NetBeans versions? > > If I understood it correctly after verification the plugin, or its new > version thereof, "appears" on the UpdateCenter, if I remove the > verification it "disappears" from the UpdateCenter. This would mean that as > soon as a plugin is verified for the latest version of NetBeans it > disappears for the users of previous versions. Sounds like an important > limitation to me. > > Anyway I will try your suggestion. > > Thanks for helping, > Regards > > *--* > *Alessandro Falappa* > > > Il giorno ven 4 dic 2020 alle ore 11:25 Junichi Yamamoto < > junichi0...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> Hi, >> >> Please try to drop verification for the old version. Then, try to go >> to the new version page. >> >> HTH, >> Junichi >> >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:16 PM Alessandro >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I >> > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is >> > available from the Update Center. >> > >> > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was >> not >> > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request >> > verification of the last version. >> > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot >> plugin >> > then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled for NB >> > 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall correctly >> > there were buttons to request verification against selected NB versions. >> > >> > Could someone shed some light on this? >> > >> > Thank you in advance for your help. >> > >> > Regards >> > *--* >> > *Alessandro Falappa* >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >>
Re: Plugin verification
Hi Junichi, this means a plugin cannot be verified for multiple NetBeans versions? If I understood it correctly after verification the plugin, or its new version thereof, "appears" on the UpdateCenter, if I remove the verification it "disappears" from the UpdateCenter. This would mean that as soon as a plugin is verified for the latest version of NetBeans it disappears for the users of previous versions. Sounds like an important limitation to me. Anyway I will try your suggestion. Thanks for helping, Regards *--* *Alessandro Falappa* Il giorno ven 4 dic 2020 alle ore 11:25 Junichi Yamamoto < junichi0...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi, > > Please try to drop verification for the old version. Then, try to go > to the new version page. > > HTH, > Junichi > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:16 PM Alessandro wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I > > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is > > available from the Update Center. > > > > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was > not > > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request > > verification of the last version. > > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot > plugin > > then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled for NB > > 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall correctly > > there were buttons to request verification against selected NB versions. > > > > Could someone shed some light on this? > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > > Regards > > *--* > > *Alessandro Falappa* > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: Plugin verification
That could work too. Sorry, haven’t heard back yet from Jirka and Jan. Matthias has also done some work in this area recently and might be able to help. Gj On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 11:25, Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > Hi, > > Please try to drop verification for the old version. Then, try to go > to the new version page. > > HTH, > Junichi > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:16 PM Alessandro wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I > > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is > > available from the Update Center. > > > > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was > not > > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request > > verification of the last version. > > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot > plugin > > then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled for NB > > 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall correctly > > there were buttons to request verification against selected NB versions. > > > > Could someone shed some light on this? > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > > Regards > > *--* > > *Alessandro Falappa* > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: Plugin verification
Hi, Please try to drop verification for the old version. Then, try to go to the new version page. HTH, Junichi On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:16 PM Alessandro wrote: > > Hi all, > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is > available from the Update Center. > > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was not > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request > verification of the last version. > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot plugin > then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled for NB > 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall correctly > there were buttons to request verification against selected NB versions. > > Could someone shed some light on this? > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Regards > *--* > *Alessandro Falappa* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Plugin verification
Yes, though pinged some people who might be able to help. Gj On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:43 PM Alessandro wrote: > Hi all, > is this the right mailing list to discuss plugin portal issues? > > Regards, > *--* > *Alessandro Falappa* > > > Il giorno dom 29 nov 2020 alle ore 13:16 Alessandro < > alex.fala...@gmail.com> > ha scritto: > > > Hi all, > > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I > > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is > > available from the Update Center. > > > > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was > not > > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request > > verification of the last version. > > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot > > plugin then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled > > for NB 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall > > correctly there were buttons to request verification against selected NB > > versions. > > > > Could someone shed some light on this? > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > > Regards > > *--* > > *Alessandro Falappa* > > >
Re: Plugin verification
Hi all, is this the right mailing list to discuss plugin portal issues? Regards, *--* *Alessandro Falappa* Il giorno dom 29 nov 2020 alle ore 13:16 Alessandro ha scritto: > Hi all, > while testing the recently released NetBeans 12.2 Linux installer I > noticed that in NB12.2 the older version of my NBSpringBoot plugin is > available from the Update Center. > > I went on the new plugin portal and realized that the last version was not > verified while the older was but I don't seem to find a way to request > verification of the last version. > I went to MyPlugins section, clicked on edit button for NBSpringBoot > plugin then on edit button for last version, it shows the plugin enabled > for NB 11.0 and 12.0 but no way to request verification, if I recall > correctly there were buttons to request verification against selected NB > versions. > > Could someone shed some light on this? > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Regards > *--* > *Alessandro Falappa* >
