Re: Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 13:55, Eric Bresie wrote: > > For more specific example, on the page for 12 could have references like: > > Milestones for 12: > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestone/5 > > Labels for 12 > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/labels/NB12.0 So, we still have labels and milestones - we really should choose one or other for this. But please let's be careful what we say is in any release. We should caveat any link as above quite heavily, and we shouldn't publish the content of the links elsewhere. The point of moving to time-based releases over feature-based releases was to not hold up based on a feature not being ready. Anything not in master already should be treated as only a possibility for the next release, not a guarantee - those milestones get shifted around quite a bit. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
RE: Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
Why not, If we refactor a bit the table to start with LTS .0 at the beginning we can remove release column and add 11.X 12.X ... column and put the link to milestone and confluence. Will make documentation more browsable too. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Eric Bresie Envoyé : vendredi 14 février 2020 14:55 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell? For more specific example, on the page for 12 could have references like: Milestones for 12: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestone/5 Labels for 12 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/labels/NB12.0 And if and when a Pull request is made for 12 that could be regencies as well. On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:39 AM Eric Bresie wrote: > Slightly off topic and a little bit of a brain dump on some thoughts > around this topic but > > On the quarterly release schedule page, is it worth wild to add > references to the expected or already released changes in some way? > > Maybe add references to github milestone tags, labels, or pr that is > the resulting given release or future release? > > I think this might benefit to help organize the future expected build, > to help monitor progress and allow consistency? I believe a lot of > items are already tagged in some way so why not reference them > allowing a little more dynamic as more items are labeled , tagged, or PR are > updated. > > So for example have a “12.1” milestone / label with a given target > features (C/C++) marked (feature can also have a label of some type or > some applicable component attribute referenced) for that milestone > (assuming its tagged as such), maybe referencing an initial PR which > would be updated during pre release work and upon completion finalize the PR). > > Eric Bresie > ebre...@gmail.com > > On February 6, 2020 at 11:08:10 AM CST, Neil C Smith < > neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt > wrote: > > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native > integration. I missed this. > > > That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?! > > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for > some > time: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+R > elease+Roadmap > > > Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases, > which somewhat superseded that page. Something that links up current > and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good. We > should be wary of linking them to any particular release though. > > One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0! > :-) > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
For more specific example, on the page for 12 could have references like: Milestones for 12: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestone/5 Labels for 12 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/labels/NB12.0 And if and when a Pull request is made for 12 that could be regencies as well. On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:39 AM Eric Bresie wrote: > Slightly off topic and a little bit of a brain dump on some thoughts > around this topic but > > On the quarterly release schedule page, is it worth wild to add references > to the expected or already released changes in some way? > > Maybe add references to github milestone tags, labels, or pr that is the > resulting given release or future release? > > I think this might benefit to help organize the future expected build, to > help monitor progress and allow consistency? I believe a lot of items are > already tagged in some way so why not reference them allowing a little more > dynamic as more items are labeled , tagged, or PR are updated. > > So for example have a “12.1” milestone / label with a given target > features (C/C++) marked (feature can also have a label of some type or some > applicable component attribute referenced) for that milestone (assuming its > tagged as such), maybe referencing an initial PR which would be updated > during pre release work and upon completion finalize the PR). > > Eric Bresie > ebre...@gmail.com > > On February 6, 2020 at 11:08:10 AM CST, Neil C Smith < > neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt > wrote: > > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native > integration. I missed this. > > > That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?! > > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some > time: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > > Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases, > which somewhat superseded that page. Something that links up current > and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good. We > should be wary of linking them to any particular release though. > > One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0! > :-) > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com
Re: Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
Slightly off topic and a little bit of a brain dump on some thoughts around this topic but On the quarterly release schedule page, is it worth wild to add references to the expected or already released changes in some way? Maybe add references to github milestone tags, labels, or pr that is the resulting given release or future release? I think this might benefit to help organize the future expected build, to help monitor progress and allow consistency? I believe a lot of items are already tagged in some way so why not reference them allowing a little more dynamic as more items are labeled , tagged, or PR are updated. So for example have a “12.1” milestone / label with a given target features (C/C++) marked (feature can also have a label of some type or some applicable component attribute referenced) for that milestone (assuming its tagged as such), maybe referencing an initial PR which would be updated during pre release work and upon completion finalize the PR). Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com > On February 6, 2020 at 11:08:10 AM CST, Neil C Smith > wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt > wrote: > > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native > > integration. I missed this. > > That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?! > > > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some > > time: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases, > which somewhat superseded that page. Something that links up current > and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good. We > should be wary of linking them to any particular release though. > > One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0! :-) > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:08 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt > wrote: > > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native > > integration. I missed this. > > That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?! > Yup. Gj > > > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for > some > > time: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases, > which somewhat superseded that page. Something that links up current > and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good. We > should be wary of linking them to any particular release though. > > One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0! > :-) > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt wrote: > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native > integration. I missed this. That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?! > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some > time: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases, which somewhat superseded that page. Something that links up current and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good. We should be wary of linking them to any particular release though. One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0! :-) Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
You're going to have to start a new thread for a new topic. And the web page is on GitHub, just provide a pull request if you want to change anything there. Gj On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 3:49 PM Martin Weißhaupt wrote: > @Geertjan Wielanga: > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native > integration. I missed this. > > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some > time: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > Maby it would be a good idea to put the roadmap somewhere more prominent. > On the web page for example... > > Slightly OT: > I'm currently working on updating the Android Plugin for 11.3. > I would love it if the plugin could also be integrated but I don't know > what Arsi and Laszlo Kishalmi think about this. > > Regards, > Martin > > > Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 13:49 Uhr schrieb Birger Skogeng Pedersen < > birger...@gmail.com>: > > > Thanks! > > I'll check 11.2 and the plugin manager. And I'll try to contribute to > > your repo, Geertjan. > > > > Birger > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:45 PM Neil C Smith > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, < > birger...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be > > for > > > > 12.0? > > > > > > > > > > No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if > ready? > > > > > > Otherwise, hopefully 12.1. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
@Geertjan Wielanga: Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native integration. I missed this. The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some time: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap Maby it would be a good idea to put the roadmap somewhere more prominent. On the web page for example... Slightly OT: I'm currently working on updating the Android Plugin for 11.3. I would love it if the plugin could also be integrated but I don't know what Arsi and Laszlo Kishalmi think about this. Regards, Martin Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 13:49 Uhr schrieb Birger Skogeng Pedersen < birger...@gmail.com>: > Thanks! > I'll check 11.2 and the plugin manager. And I'll try to contribute to > your repo, Geertjan. > > Birger > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:45 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, > > wrote: > > > > > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be > for > > > 12.0? > > > > > > > No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if ready? > > > > Otherwise, hopefully 12.1. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Neil > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
Thanks! I'll check 11.2 and the plugin manager. And I'll try to contribute to your repo, Geertjan. Birger On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:45 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, > wrote: > > > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for > > 12.0? > > > > No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if ready? > > Otherwise, hopefully 12.1. > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, wrote: > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for > 12.0? > No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if ready? Otherwise, hopefully 12.1. Best wishes, Neil >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
Well, you can use the 8.2 C/C++ plugin in 11.2, right now, just use the Plugin Manager to install it. Re native integration that I'm working on -- it's a lot of work, plus 12.0 is more or less a consolidation release and not for the inclusion of major new features. It will have to be after that at some point. Gj On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:14 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen wrote: > Thanks, Geertjan. I'll keep an eye on it. Won't be able to contribute > until in at least a week or to. > > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for > 12.0? > > Birger > > > Birger > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > You can use openbeans.org. > > > > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork > > right now: > > > > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans > > > > Gj > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen < > birger...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++ > > > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm > > > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache > > > Netbeans. > > > > > > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there > > > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++ > > > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support > > > Apache Netbeans? > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Birger > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
Thanks, Geertjan. I'll keep an eye on it. Won't be able to contribute until in at least a week or to. But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for 12.0? Birger Birger On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > You can use openbeans.org. > > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork > right now: > > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans > > Gj > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++ > > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm > > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache > > Netbeans. > > > > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there > > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++ > > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support > > Apache Netbeans? > > > > > > Best regards, > > Birger > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
Get the code to compile. :-) That's what I'm working on now. Gj On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: > What are the tasks to do? > > I help if I can. > > On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > You can use openbeans.org. > > > > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork > > right now: > > > > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans > > > > Gj > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen < > birger...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++ > >> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm > >> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache > >> Netbeans. > >> > >> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there > >> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++ > >> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support > >> Apache Netbeans? > >> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Birger > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >> > >> > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
What are the tasks to do? I help if I can. On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > You can use openbeans.org. > > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork > right now: > > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans > > Gj > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++ >> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm >> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache >> Netbeans. >> >> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there >> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++ >> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support >> Apache Netbeans? >> >> >> Best regards, >> Birger >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?
You can use openbeans.org. Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork right now: https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans Gj On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen wrote: > Hi, > > > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++ > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache > Netbeans. > > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++ > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support > Apache Netbeans? > > > Best regards, > Birger > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
